Tampa cop asks me for a picture of the Ron Paul Liberty Corvette...

[Carson]

You've got a beautiful car.

Here is another guy sporting a Ron Paul bumper sticker.

 

[sailingaway]

Most cops, like most people, are just trying to do their job. They have so much power that the bad ones are intolerable, however.

 

[mport1]

Show me a cop that won't arrest someone for smoking a plant, and I'll show you a cop who's about to lose his job.

While it is true that some cops are genuinely trying to protect and serve, and that minority is commendable for that reason, they are still not "good cops." With the exception of cops that are soon-to-be-fired for refusing to victimize innocent people, there is no such thing as a "good cop."

Couldn't agree more. All cops violate the NAP.

 

[robert9712000]

My friends brother is a cop and hes a huge ron paul fan ,also he refuses to give seatbelt tickets and will only give speeding tickets if your 10 miles over the limit

 

[Barrex]

You've got a beautiful car.

Here is another guy sporting a Ron Paul bumper sticker.

Ha ha ha... no matter how "wrong" it is to glue (or is it stick???) stickers on other peoples cars I always love to see it....

 

[Carson]

Ha ha ha... no matter how "wrong" it is to glue (or is it stick???) stickers on other peoples cars I always love to see it....

Even Photoshopped?


That's Bill Clinton passing by my house. Once when Chelsea was starting at Stanford I think I saw Mr. And Mrs. Clinton driving a white minivan. I waved as I passed and they smiled at each other.

 

[pcosmar]

Most cops, like most people, are just trying to do their job. They have so much power that the bad ones are intolerable, however.

That is what worries me.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I'm the one that got you in the expo hall, I was the big guy in the security cart.
We had to have it in there, 1/4 tank of gas..... LOL.

1/4 tank hell... I was on FUMES !!!

 

[Anti Federalist]

COPS ARE EVIL THEY SHOOT DOGS

FFS...pipe down, jackass.

 

[fr33]

My friends brother is a cop and hes a huge ron paul fan ,also he refuses to give seatbelt tickets and will only give speeding tickets if your 10 miles over the limit

Sounds good. I could settle for Andy Griffith.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Great story.

Too bad some pictures couldn't have been taken.

That 'Vette kicks ass, and I don't even like Chevies.

Just making my presence known in Tampa and a cop pulls up beside me and asks me if he can take a picture of my car. I of course told him I'd be glad to have him take a picture. We pull ahead to a side street and he tells me his friend is a big Ron Paul fan and a Corvette fan. I told him how much better off we'd be if Ron Paul was the Republican nominee. I offered to take his picture in the car, but he says he's afraid he'd be fired. He takes his cell phone pic and offers me his hand. We shook and parted as friends.

I guess they aren't ALL bad...

 

[Anti Federalist]

He may have liked your car, but I bet he would still throw you in a rape cage for smoking a plant.

Sad, but true.

Here's hoping the cognitive dissonce becomes so painful that he has to quit.

 

[nobody's_hero]

If there were no good cops, you wouldn't be able to explain Sheriff Mack.

Likewise, if there are no good Congressmen, no explanation for Dr. Paul.

They're certainly few and far between, though. All the more reason I say we should encourage the good ones to not become like the rest.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

If there were no good cops, you wouldn't be able to explain Sheriff Mack.

Likewise, if there are no good Congressmen, no explanation for Dr. Paul.

They're certainly few and far between, though. All the more reason I say we should encourage the good ones to not become like the rest.

Personally, I think they either need to accept or reject their oath. Most of them reject it by ignoring it.

 

[Weston White]

Now that is an outstanding vision of a fine American motor-vehicle... About the only thing missing, perhaps, is some powder coated rim dressing:

 

[Expatriate]

They are individuals too.

Seems to me that there should be a differentiation between disliking the organization because of its unbridled and corrupted power vs. hating everyone who works for it.

Could say the same thing about all those individuals who chose to work for the Nazis, Soviets, and ChiComs, too. Yet there's a lot of hatred in society for them.

Not saying you're wrong.

 

[Mini-Me]

Sad, but true.

Here's hoping the cognitive dissonce becomes so painful that he has to quit.

You know, sometimes I wonder if we have this backwards: Good people join the police force in very small numbers and quickly get run out by the psychopaths, and hardcore libertarians absolutely refuse to join such an inherently corrupting job, leaving most of the openings for the worst of the worst. Everyone's corruptible of course, but the people we're leaving these positions to are guys who not only have no objective principles to measure themselves by, but guys who actively yearn for the ring of power more than anyone else.

If a whole bunch of people friendly to liberty suddenly became shrewd about this and flooded these positions and took control over departments, there wouldn't have to be so much cognitive dissonance, because they might have strength in numbers to refuse to follow orders or enforce bad laws. (That said, it would probably be more effective - and less corrupting - if there were any way to directly replace members of police commissions and such.) It's a shame that voluntaryists would be the best people we could possibly hope for, yet for the same reason, a rigid adherence to the NAP precludes them taking this path. As a "second best" option though, I hope that Constitutionalists and anti-federalists and such start mulling these ideas over.

Along the lines of the "ring of power," I'm reminded that the ring was not destroyed by Frodo leaving it in his house; he had to actually expose himself to its corruption to carry it into Mordor, or it would have been taken by the Nazgûl and delivered to Sauron. I get the sudden feeling that many of us here would simply say "no" and let the Nazgûl have it (at worst) or let the responsibility fall to someone else less likely to still want to destroy it at the end of their journey (at best). Right now, we're basically leaving it to Boromir and an occasional Faramir when we're lucky and a bunch of orcs and wraiths the rest of the time. I'm not sure how I feel about someone saying "no" entirely, because I'm reminded of Gandalf refusing to take the ring for any purpose (even just to carry it like Frodo). He made this choice because he was wise and fearful of being corrupted, and yet by doing so he left the responsibility to someone who was less wise. Curiously, he supported Frodo's choice to take it, because he knew it was necessary even if he would not do it himself. Then again, the ring did corrupt Frodo in the end, and it could only be destroyed by accident, so that's worth considering too...as well as the fact that if it had corrupted Gandalf instead, that would have been a much bigger problem. Round and round in circles we go...Lord of the Rings has such deep applicability to this problem. Despite his disdain for deliberate allegory, I have trouble believing J.R.R. Tolkien did not have something like it specifically in mind on some level.

Anyway, the same observation goes for government positions in general, really. By avoiding them like the plague, we're implicitly allowing them to be uncontested bastions of abject and prideful statism. In a sense, we're letting government offices be closed communities of violent and controlling extremists who feed on each others' attitudes to no end and continue pushing the envelope. We already make exceptions for Congressional seats and such (liberty candidates), but I think there may be a case for using our influence to jam debris in the cogs of the machine too.

 

[unknown]

Hows it going out there? Hows the mood?

 

[mport1]

If there were no good cops, you wouldn't be able to explain Sheriff Mack.

Did Sheriff Mack enforce the war on drugs? If so, he is a bad cop. He may have been better on some other issues, and be a good person outside of his job, but what he did was bad.

 

[king_nothing_]

Most cops, like most people, are just trying to do their job.

Nuremberg defense.