'Take The Guns First' - Trump's War On The Second Amendment - Ron Paul Liberty Report

[dannno]

You can re-read what I posted - I thought I was pretty clear.
Sometimes (most times?) I have to read something a few times myself.

I just did - I think you're missing the point. I prefer ACTUAL more liberty to merely hearing about more liberty. I don't care how Trump disarms the left on gun control, as long as he disarms them on gun control. And he did. Would it be preferable to have Ron Paul standing up there saying why the 2nd amendment is so important and winning that way? As long as the outcome was as good or better, yes, I would. But the left doesn't listen to logic.

 

[bunklocoempire]

I just did - I think you're missing the point. I prefer ACTUAL more liberty to merely hearing about more liberty. I don't care how Trump disarms the left on gun control, as long as he disarms them on gun control. And he did. Would it be preferable to have Ron Paul standing up there saying why the 2nd amendment is so important? As long as the outcome was as good or better, yes, I would. Is that realistic right now?

Is that realistic right now?

Is truth realistic right now...

Have a good day dannno

 

[dannno]

Is that realistic right now?

Is truth realistic right now...

Have a good day dannno

Do you think truth is realistic right now? I mean, it is here, we all know the truth about free markets and liberty.

Again, my goal is results - I want to see actual liberty more than I want to hear platitudes.

Would you prefer having actual liberty, or would you prefer hearing the truth and not having actual liberty?

 

[acptulsa]

Would you prefer having actual liberty, or would you prefer hearing the truth and not having actual liberty?

Thomas Jefferson didn't see any way people could have a republic and liberty without access to the truth.

 

[dannno]

Thomas Jefferson didn't see any way people could have a republic and liberty without access to the truth.

The birth and death of Republics look entirely different. We are in save mode..

And I'm not saying the truth shouldn't be accessible, it should be everywhere, we should be putting it out there - but - from a strategic standpoint, those in government may need to do what they need to in order to maximize liberty.

 

[acptulsa]

The birth and death of Republics look entirely different. We are in save mode..

And I'm not saying the truth shouldn't be accessible, it should be everywhere, we should be putting it out there - but - from a strategic standpoint, those in government may need to do what they need to in order to maximize liberty.

So you want truth, but don't think transparency is necessary to get it.

 

[dannno]

So you want truth, but don't think transparency is necessary to get it.

No, I want liberty - in result form - and I want the truth to be accessible.

G. Edward Griffin did a great talk on this back around 2007 I think. It was called "An Idea Whose Time Has Come".

 

[acptulsa]

No, I want liberty - in result form - and I want the truth to be accessible.

But you're arguing you're good with transparency being sacrificed for liberty. And, of course, transparency is access to truth. That's, like, the definition of the word.

Trump lies, the Left acts on that lie, and presto! Liberty!

So, are you saying that Jefferson was wrong and truth can be sacrificed for liberty, just as neocons argue with Ben Franklin and say that liberty can be sacrificed for security?

 

[dannno]

But you're arguing you're good with transparency being sacrificed for liberty.

But you're arguing you're good with liberty being sacrificed for transparency.

So, are you saying that Jefferson was wrong and truth can be sacrificed for liberty, just as neocons argue with Ben Franklin and say that liberty can be sacrificed for security?

LOL.. you get the Pretzel Award of 2018.

 

[Origanalist]

That's rich coming from a proudly-self-admitted Muslim. You can post on the forum, but You have to leave the country.

Silence infidel, or I keel you!

 

[The Rebel Poet]

Silence infidel, or I keel you!

Since "Islamophobia" has come to mean not "irrational fear of Muslims," but rather "isn't Muslim" (at least how the media uses it), we need a term for people who really are irrational about Islam. How about Islamanoid?

 

[Origanalist]

Since "Islamophobia" has come to mean not "irrational fear of Muslims," but rather "isn't Muslim" (at least how the media uses it), we need a term for people who really are irrational about Islam. How about Islamanoid?

That sounds like something you would put Preparation H on.

 

[Dr.3D]

That sounds like something you would put Preparation H on.

Probably happens when people push too hard.

 

[dannno]

Probably happens when people push too hard.

Ya sorta like how Trump pushed soooo hard for gun control he ended up de-regulating the banks instead.

 

[Dr.3D]

Ya sorta like how Trump pushed soooo hard for gun control he ended up de-regulating the banks instead.

Maybe he should check his shorts.

 

[PRB]

Even AJ is dedicating 36 hour show against this and recommending the GOA.

https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/

AJ is conned, shocker.

 

[PRB]

Do you think truth is realistic right now? I mean, it is here, we all know the truth about free markets and liberty.

Again, my goal is results - I want to see actual liberty more than I want to hear platitudes.

Would you prefer having actual liberty, or would you prefer hearing the truth and not having actual liberty?

truth is simple : THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON
IT'S THE SAME GUN, JUST MORE SCARY LOOKING
GUN CONTROL IS FOR NAZIS
DON'T TOUCH MUH GUNS.
END OF STORY.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

truth is simple : THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON
IT'S THE SAME GUN, JUST MORE SCARY LOOKING
GUN CONTROL IS FOR NAZIS
DON'T TOUCH MUH GUNS.
END OF STORY.

See, even communists get it.

 

[PRB]

See, even communists get it.

commie? where?!

 

[Swordsmyth]

See, even communists get it.

I think some of the trolls have been ordered to get green bars or they will have their pay docked.