Synthetic Marijuana

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Synthetic Marijuana should not be illegal in my opinion, at the federal level and with this HR 1254 making it to the Senate....it seems to me that Rand Paul is the only one fighting for our freedom to smoke something if we want to smoke it (which I don't). I already emailed Rand Paul's office to keep up the good fight, but there is a counter movement by 2themax that is having people put lots of pressure on Rand to change his mind, and they are starting to sway him. It is sad this lady lost her son, but he made a choice to get in a car while he was having a panic attack and made a bad choice...the civil liberties of others should not also have to suffer because of this, at least that is my opinion.

Thoughts?
 
Mannitol is a synthetic (man made chemically engineered equivalent) form of thc which is the primary intoxicating component of pot. It has dangerous side effects and is not the same thing. At least that is what my PDR says.
 
Real marijuana should be legal. I would never touch the synthetic crap (although yes, it should be legal).

Don't keep your hopes up. This will get me in trouble, but Rand doesn't have the backbone that his father does.
 
I don't like the synthetic stuff. I have a feeling it's a whole lot more harmful then just smoking cannabis. Making the real stuff legal will get rid of the market for synthetics. I know a couple people who tried it. Said it felt like thier chests were going to explode.
 
I personally wouldn't touch the stuff and would advise others not to as well. But it shouldn't be illegal.

Don't be surprised if Rand gives in. It's the type of issue that can lose an election if trumped up right for the sheeple. "For the children!!!"

One of the most disturbing obstacles to ending prohibition that I've noticed is cities and towns banning legal substances like K2 before the state or federal governments ban it or without the state or feds ever banning it. That's grassroots support of controlling people's bodies.
 
What a stupid thing to smoke...

The fact is if marijuana was legal there wouldn't even existed a market for synthetic marijuana
 
The synthetic stuff like JWH-18 and others are incredibly bad for you and haven't even been tested on animals let alone humans. So if you are going to take it just keep in mind that it is a research chemical and you are the lab rat. I'll stick with the natural stuff and risk my freedom...damn government.
 
What a stupid thing to smoke...

The fact is if marijuana was legal there wouldn't even existed a market for synthetic marijuana

This. I've tried synthetic, it's just like the regular stuff IMO. But I try to stay away from it because I hear it can be dangerous.
 
It's funny the synthetic stuff is more dangerous then actual marijuana, yet marijuana is the banned substance.
 
I tried the stuff cuz my friend said, "its legal," ...i thought there was no harm... oh my gawd.. kind of embarrassed to tell, but within 10 seconds, paranoia hit like crazy..apparently, i took (2) hits, and too long of a hit... holy crap...i felt like i couldn't move..went home, once I sat down, i couldn't move my body, and the thoughts I don't even want to go into... i've taken X and smoked weed before, but I'd never felt anything like this... I guess if I wouldn't have hit it so hard it wouldn't have done what it did... but I would def warn people about taking typical long weed hits... also, i always agree with the idea it will have diff effects on diff people...anyways, thats just my side of it...just be careful...

**oh, and haven't drank or smoked even a cigarette since that day...not that I won't, just haven't wanted to....so i guess thats good, but the thoughts I got from it were NO bueno...
 
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I tried the stuff cuz my friend said, "its legal," ...i thought there was no harm... oh my gawd.. kind of embarrassed to tell, but within 10 seconds, paranoia hit like crazy..apparently, i took (2) hits, and too long of a hit... holy crap...i felt like i couldn't move..went home, once I sat down, i couldn't move my body, and the thoughts I don't even want to go into... i've taken X and smoked weed before, but I'd never felt anything like this... I guess if I wouldn't have hit it so hard it wouldn't have done what it did... but I would def warn people about taking typical long weed hits... also, i always agree with the idea it will have diff effects on diff people...anyways, thats just my side of it...just be careful...

**oh, and haven't drank or smoked even a cigarette since that day...not that I won't, just haven't wanted to....so i guess thats good, but the thoughts I got from it were NO bueno...

When I smoked it I got very paranoid and kept seeing shadows or something it was weird and I felt strange the next day too. I won't ever do it again. I was hoping I would like because it is legal.
 
When I smoked it I got very paranoid and kept seeing shadows or something it was weird and I felt strange the next day too. I won't ever do it again. I was hoping I would like because it is legal.

The one time I tried it (almost 3 years ago, before it was a big thing, I got a free sample from a website I heard about) and my heart felt like it was going to beat a hole in my chest my heart rate was so high and I was incredibly paranoid. I'll stick with pure, natural, organic cannabis.
 
That new synthetic drugs come out every single year is the perfect example of why prohibition fails. Great, they'll ban this synthetic marijuana. Guess what? People will just create a newer, slightly altered version, with effects that cannot be tested before going out to the public.

You know, if weed were legal, how many people would be smoking the synthetic 'version' of it? I've never actually met anyone that PREFERS the likes of spice to real marijuana. The only reason I ever see people smoking the synthetic version is because they wish to avoid either employer, or legal consequences, or they prefer to not deal with the black market, as the synthetic stuff is easily available online.

I mean really, though. Are we just going to keep going through this cycle over and over?

Synthetic weed is now illegal.
*six months later*
NEW substance XYZ, which has no clinical testing, is now available in bulk from internet stores. Buy it now and roll the dice, kids. After all, you can't smoke that evil marijuana which has been proven safe for consumption in the majority of folk who use it.

If your kid is going to do a drug, wouldn't you PREFER him to use marijuana? I mean, you might not want that to happen, but wouldn't you rather him smoke something that isn't going to kill him, or harm his health? Furthermore, can any of these prohibition zealots please explain how making it illegal will reduce the ability for children to obtain it? Plenty of kids manage to get other drugs which are already illegal, and not only can they obtain them, but in many cases they are EASIER to obtain than alcohol. Furthermore, drug prohibition promotes the corruption of children. It promotes gangs and cartels to recruit children as dealers, because when children are caught they get far lesser sentences. And, by the very logic that anti-drug people use, if you hook them at a young age you hook them for life.

It's a tragic story that anyone would lose their child to drugs. But to them, I ask these questions:

How many people, particularly in poverty stricken areas, have lost their children to the easy money of the black market?
How many INNOCENT people have died because of the corruption drug laws create in the police force? From raids gone bad, or from collateral damage?
How many non-violent drug users, and possibly very productive people, have lost their lives to imprisonment, or felony charges?
How many people in Mexico have died because of failed drug policies? How many have disappeared?

The amount of people that die to illegal drugs is rather low when compared to the damages of drug prohibition. Lastly, of all of the drug users in my extended family, and there are a LOT, the only people who ever managed to get OFF of drugs were the ones that did NOT get arrested. In fact, the only three people that don't have serious problems to this day are the ones that got voluntary help. The ones who were arrested sunk into a downward spiral. One from which I highly doubt they can ever now escape. Actually, I take that back. One of the meth addicts managed to switch over to alcoholism.
 
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This. I've tried synthetic, it's just like the regular stuff IMO. But I try to stay away from it because I hear it can be dangerous.

It's not even remotely the same, unless all that's available to you is garbage cartel weed, and even then the only similarities I experienced was the munchies...

I've tried spice several times,and quit after noticing that I would smoke a fat bowl of it on Friday, and still feel mentally retarded and off balance the next Tuesday. Something was just not right. This stuff has also killed a lot of people already, both here in the states and in the UK...the real deal has never killed anyone, and never will.
 
They've already made it (jwh-018) illegal... then the makers change the formula... then they make the new formula illegal... then the makers make a new compound... it becomes illegal... and then its altered again... that becomes illegal...

there are a million yet uncovered chemical compounds that can fit into that receptor in the brain.

bans are a joke,

presence
 
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I'm okay with all substances being legal. The issue with the JWH -###'s is the fact that they are relatively new and not all too much is known about them. The free market would handle this research much better than the state considering the state just aims to make everything ever to exist illegal/heavily regulated.
 
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