Switching to a Vegetarian Diet

[dannno]

Yup. And from that evolved the coercive state. Agriculture was the mother of tyranny. Not to mention shorter, unhealthier people with bad teeth. But I said I wasn't going down that road.

 

[dannno]

LOL...probably. but you still never see them dealing in the drugs.

For the record, dealing drugs isn't really a good analogy since we are talking about voluntary transactions.

Worse is big pharma who profits off of using force to limit the ability of people to choose what type of medicines they wish to use. Often allowing and selling more dangerous alternatives.

And yes, this is very serious business.

 

[specsaregood]

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[Acala]

LOL...probably. but you still never see them dealing in the drugs.

Anywhoo...yeah, PaulConventionWV, that was an attempt at a joke. I should've noted as much; I forgot that these internets are serious business.

Hehehehe! I knew you were joking but just thought we could use some chicken lore.

 

[Acala]

Sorry. I'm kinda out of the loop when it comes to tv culture references. But I know South Park drawing style when I see it! I think . . .

 

[Guitarzan]

For the record, dealing drugs isn't really a good analogy since we are talking about voluntary transactions.

Worse is big pharma who profits off of using force to limit the ability of people to choose what type of medicines they wish to use. Often allowing and selling more dangerous alternatives.

And yes, this is very serious business.

Wow...I can tell this is serious. My post had nothing to do with 'voluntaryism', nor was it meant to. It really didn't have anything to do with this thread. It was a joke Dannno. Get it? Joke?

And since I just admitted that I broke what is probably a rule of the forum, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I'll just slip out now. Take care.

 

[Acala]

highlight of my childhood was when me and my cousin and bro stood up to the mean ass rooster on my grandpappy's farm. the mean sumbitch had been chasing us around all summer and we had had enough. we cornered the bastard and 3 little boys instinctively knew that whipping out our willies and pissing on him was the best insult we could possibly deliver. good times...

Hahahahaha! This is the unapproved method for adjusting a rooster's attitude. The APPROVED method is to grab them by the feet and carry them around upside down for a while.

 

[Acala]

Wow...I can tell this is serious. My post had nothing to do with 'voluntaryism', nor was it meant to. It really didn't have anything to do with this thread. It was a joke Dannno. Get it? Joke?

And since I just admitted that I broke what is probably a rule of the forum, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I'll just slip out now. Take care.

Hey don't go bro! Just pulling your leg. I liked your joke. For a second I had an image of a chicken in a "wife-beater" t-shirt.

 

[ChaosControl]

One thing to note is that most American diets are too high in protein. Protein supplements are not really needed in a healthful vegetarian or vegan diet. Especially not needed in a vegetarian diet since you'll still be consuming eggs and dairy.

I actually get the upper limit of how much you're supposed to get, even on a vegan diet, since my multi vitamin mix has a Pea protein supplement in it. So, really don't worry about needing extra protein in a vegetarian diet.

 

[dannno]

Wow...I can tell this is serious. My post had nothing to do with 'voluntaryism', nor was it meant to. It really didn't have anything to do with this thread. It was a joke Dannno. Get it? Joke?

And since I just admitted that I broke what is probably a rule of the forum, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I'll just slip out now. Take care.

lol, c'mon man, I was joking about it being serious

 

[nicoleeann]

i eat a primal diet and it's been the best thing in the world for me. Here are some things that i always avoid: gluten, grains especially corn, soy products, yeast products, sugary products including fruit and especially juice. dairy is alright for me and i do like butter. i work at a health food store and i've noticed that alot of the vegans tend to get a little....androgenous over time. they tend to have bad breath and are either too thin or too fat. but i'm sure it works for some people.

 

[dannno]

What's your blood type?

i eat a primal diet and it's been the best thing in the world for me. Here are some things that i always avoid: gluten, grains especially corn, soy products, yeast products, sugary products including fruit and especially juice. dairy is alright for me and i do like butter. i work at a health food store and i've noticed that alot of the vegans tend to get a little....androgenous over time. they tend to have bad breath and are either too thin or too fat. but i'm sure it works for some people.

Not sure where the bad breathe comes from, maybe they eat more garlic and onions.

What if the vegans tend to start out more androgynous? Also, people become more androgynous as they age. Warriors back in the day ate a lot of meat, and were typically type O. The exception was Roman Gladiators, who ate a lot of grains and calcium. They were probably type O and this was simply away to fatten them up. The purpose of getting them really big and strong, but also fat, was that they could take more sword wounds without injuring vital organs so they could stay alive longer in the pit.

But my point is that people who are healthier on a vegan diet are not the 'warrior' type, they are the agrarian type, so they will naturally be more androgynous.


Also checkout this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ahah...-Vegetarians-aren-t-p****s-you-f*****s!!

It's about some MMA fighters who have gone vegetarian and are training better and winning fights. This TENDS to give me the impression that the people on here saying that nobody has to eat meat MIGHT be right.. or these particular fighters are not the type O.

 

[nicoleeann]

well one girl my age that works there is on a raw vegan diet and she started out looking thin but still pretty, but now she's very flat chested with some fuzz on the upper lip. i know that a variety of diets work for a variety of people. In my opinion the worst thing for us humans (and most animals) is grains and soy. This goes for vegetarians and meat eaters. that is why i only eat grassfed meat. Also one thing i forgot to mention is i avoid all foods high in estrogen: soy, flax, beans, and seeds. this works best for me.

 

[dannno]

well one girl my age that works there is on a raw vegan diet and she started out looking thin but still pretty, but now she's very flat chested with some fuzz on the upper lip. i know that a variety of diets work for a variety of people. In my opinion the worst thing for us humans (and most animals) is grains and soy. This goes for vegetarians and meat eaters. that is why i only eat grassfed meat. Also one thing i forgot to mention is i avoid all foods high in estrogen: soy, flax, beans, and seeds. this works best for me.

Ya, see, grains and soy is what helped me lose 65 lbs and get back into shape. I went from a blob to being told by a girl I looked like "Superman" one time when I had my shirt off (I have to admit it was pretty dark). If I eat meat even once then I start to gain it back no matter how much I exercise. If anything I became less androgynous after I became vegetarian, but I was kinda androgynous to start out with.

Is it possible your friend you work with stopped wearing wonder bras or something that accentuated her breasts? Maybe she stopped shaving her upper lip, which was something she'd always done before? Some people become more earthy when they go vegetarian or vegan.

 

[Vessol]

Check it out, dude:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

This is why a man can run down almost any animal on earth. This is why you have an Achiles tendon, giant glutes (no offense), and real-time biocomputer stabilized, load adjusting, spring loaded, shock absorbing feet.

Yeah I've seen a video of that before, but I was talking about humans before the use of primitive too, in the example used there a spear was used. I can't see humans actively hunting and killing beasts with just their hands and teeth.

As for the endurance and running capability, I imagine those came in handy when our ancestors were running the fuck away from other predators.

But really, to me it's a non-point, just my ideas on the matter.

 

[Created4]

I gave a link with research from an Asian doctor. And you reply with wikipedia?? The research on soy is legion, and it is NOT from wikipedia opinions. Plenty of links to research (hundreds) from these links:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/Results.aspx?k=soy

Ya, I've heard people say that but I don't believe that based on what I've seen and read and experienced. At all. I think it is completely unfounded and made up. I would suggest you look for more evidence, or if you have some give me some actual evidence rather than just statements.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha's_delight




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempeh

 

[sevin]

i eat a primal diet and it's been the best thing in the world for me. Here are some things that i always avoid: gluten, grains especially corn, soy products, yeast products, sugary products including fruit and especially juice. dairy is alright for me and i do like butter. i work at a health food store and i've noticed that alot of the vegans tend to get a little....androgenous over time. they tend to have bad breath and are either too thin or too fat. but i'm sure it works for some people.

I'm with you. I saw the Fathead movie and later read The Primal Blueprint and have gone paleo for the last few months. I've only lost a little weight as I still get plenty of carbs from fruits and veggies, but I've put on some muscle and I've never felt better!

 

[dannno]

I gave a link with research from an Asian doctor. And you reply with wikipedia?? The research on soy is legion, and it is NOT from wikipedia opinions. Plenty of links to research (hundreds) from these links:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/Results.aspx?k=soy

Wikipedia has sources as well, and I am saying that you are being either accidentally or purposely dishonest by saying that soy is not a common food staple in many Asian cultures.

It may be true that soy in large doses causes SOME PEOPLE to have problems assimilating various nutrients, or increasing estrogen levels, perhaps people who are not inclined toward the vegetarian diet. Or it may all be a lie propagated by the anti-vegetarian lobby. You have to grow a lot of grains to feed non-grass fed meat... a lot more grains that you would have to grow just to feed a human. There are interests who don't want people to be vegetarian.

 

[dannno]

I'm with you. I saw the Fathead movie and later read The Primal Blueprint and have gone paleo for the last few months. I've only lost a little weight as I still get plenty of carbs from fruits and veggies, but I've put on some muscle and I've never felt better!

Ya my roommate had the opposite experience, did paleo for a few months and now has gone veggie and is feeling a lot better.

I'm damn near positive that different people excel on vastly different diets.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Is it possible your friend you work with stopped wearing wonder bras or something that accentuated her breasts? Maybe she stopped shaving her upper lip, which was something she'd always done before? Some people become more earthy when they go vegetarian or vegan.

Breast tissue is mostly fat. Losing weight can definately make them smaller.