SWAT flash-bangs toddler in play pen - the "Baby Bou Bou" saga

You would have to pay if you were sued and the other side won a judgement. You could also just voluntarily pay the expenses before you are sued because it is the right thing to do. It may well be that the law prevents the county from just handing out money like that though, and for very good reasons. It could be that the only way can pay these particular expenses is via a settlement that requires first a lawsuit and second the approval of the county attorney (which again, would be based on the sound principle that you don't want to give the county commissioners the ability to hand out money willy nilly because though it might be right in this case, if you give them that power they will abuse it). So I'd like to know more about the process before criticizing this particular action. The throwing the grenade in the first place, and the policy which sends SWAT teams on such frequent military style raids in the first place I can criticize now though.
The officers should be removed. The lot of them. They should be charged criminally, ostracized, and garnished until the bill, with interest, is paid in full as well as the damages to the family. I don't care if they have to scrap Bearcats, police car doors, and sell M16s to pay for it.

ETA: Though to be clear, those items aren't even their's.

I should be more clear. I do not care if the officers are homeless begging change to pay that bill. Their cars repossessed and sold, their assets seized.
 
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That baby had it coming, should have known better than to have been in the crib where the grenade landed.
 
The officers should be removed. The lot of them. They should be charged criminally, ostracized, and garnished until the bill, with interest, is paid in full as well as the damages to the family. I don't care if they have to scrap Bearcats, police car doors, and sell M16s to pay for it.

ETA: Though to be clear, those items aren't even their's.

I should be more clear. I do not care if the officers are homeless begging change to pay that bill. Their cars repossessed and sold, their assets seized.

Why yeah! :D
 
Habersham County’s attorney provided the following statement, saying: "The question before the board was whether it is legally permitted to pay these expenses. After consideration of this question following advice of counsel, the board of commissioners has concluded that it would be in violation of the law for it to do so."

Legal for state-licensed stormtroopers to mangle an innocent child's body with zero accountablility - CHECK ...
NOT legal for the issuers of stormtrooper licenses to make reparations for the viciousness of their stormtroopers - CHECK ...

... the fantôme of père Bastiat is spitting nails ...

Frédéric Bastiat said:
When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law.
 
Did Georgia Drug Warriors Commit a Crime When They Burned and Mutilated a Toddler?

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http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/10/did-georgia-drug-warriors-commit-a-crime

WSB-TV, the ABC station in Atlanta, reports that a grand jury will look into the Habersham County drug raid that gravely injured 19-month-old Bounkham "Bou Bou" Phonesavanh last May. [...]

Without the fig leaf of the war on drugs, the whole operation was a series of crimes, including breaking and entering, burglary, kidnapping, and assault with a deadly weapon. If Bou Bou, who was hospitalized for a month following the raid, had not survived, his death, even if unintended, would have been considered a murder, because he was injured in the course of a felony. But because these home invaders had a no-knock search warrant, based on the word of an informant who claimed to have made a $50 meth purchase at the house earlier that night, none of these charges apply. Instead the grand jury presumably will consider whether the raid was carried out in a criminally negligent manner.

Under Georgia law, a person is guilty of "reckless conduct," a misdemeanor, if he "causes bodily harm to or endangers the bodily safety of another person by consciously disregarding a substantial and unjustifiable risk that his act or omission will cause harm or endanger the safety of the other person and the disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care which a reasonable person would exercise in the situation." Reckless conduct is an act of criminal negligence, which "implies, not only knowledge of probable consequences which may result from the use of a given instrumentality, but also willful or wanton disregard of the probable effects of such instrumentality upon others likely to be affected thereby." Another possibly relevant charge is cruelty to children in the second degree, a felony that occurs when a person "with criminal negligence causes a child under the age of 18 cruel or excessive physical or mental pain."

There is substantial evidence of negligence in this case. Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell and Cornelia Police Chief Rick Darby said their officers would not have used a flashbang if they knew children were living in the house they attacked. But their investigation of that possibility seems to have consisted entirely of asking their informant, who according to Terrell was at the house only briefly and did not go inside.

Even rudimentary surveillance should have discovered signs of children, who according to the Phonesavanhs' lawyer played with their father, Bounkham, in the front yard every day. Bou Bou's mother, Alecia Phonesavanh, told ABC News there were "family stickers" on the minivan parked "right near the door they kicked in," which contained four child seats, and "my son's old playpen was right outside because we were getting ready to leave" for Wisconsin. Anyone who entered the house would have seen toys and children's clothes. According to the ACLU, there were also toys in the front yard.

The Phonesavanhs, who were staying with relatives in Georgia at the time of the raid because their house in Wisconsin had burned down, are now back in Wisconsin. Today, WSB reports, Bou Bou, now nearly 2, is undergoing his eighth surgery since the raid "to remove the stitches that were used to reattach his nose after the incident." The Phonesavanhs, who did not have insurance when Bou Bou was injured, are struggling to pay his medical bills, which at this point total more than $800,000. A few days after the raid, Terrell, the sheriff whose deputies participated in the raid, told the Fox station in Atlanta the county would cover those expenses. But last month the county decided such a payment would be illegal. Supporters of the family are seeking donations here.

The ACLU notes some of the raid's lingering psychological consequences:

The Phonesavanhs have three daughters who are now scared to go to bed at night. One night after the raid, their 8-year-old woke up in the middle of the night screaming, "No, don't kill him! You're hurting my brother! Don't kill him." Alecia and Bounkahm used to tell their kids that if they were ever in trouble, they should go to the police for help. "My three little girls are terrified of the police now. They don't want to go to sleep because they're afraid the cops will kill them or their family," Alecia said.

Even if the grand jury concludes that police recklessness in this case did not rise to the level of criminal negligence, the Phonesavanhs seem to have a strong case for a civil lawsuit—an outcome Habersham County has pretty much guaranteed by reneging on Terrell's promise of financial assistance.
 
Update:

Grand jury proceeding with review of Habersham officer actions

CLARKESVILLE - A Habersham County grand jury is expected to spend the remainder of the week reviewing the actions of the officers involved in a raid that left a Cornelia toddler injured earlier this year.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public, nor are grand jurors permitted to discuss specifics of cases they review.

And I bet the testimony will be sealed when the proceedings end.

XNN
 
Legal for state-licensed stormtroopers to mangle an innocent child's body with zero accountablility - CHECK ...
NOT legal for the issuers of stormtrooper licenses to make reparations for the viciousness of their stormtroopers - CHECK ...

... the fantôme of père Bastiat is spitting nails ...

Too bad most people lose their moral sense...

BTW: I read "The Law" recently and it was probably the best book I've ever read.
 
I just don't get why Eric Frein would ever by angry at the police?! They're just doing their job!
 
Same Crime:


SMUT(SerfMundaneUnderTyranny) drops Flash grenade in police play pen =

"Why did this heinous act of violence take place?" He asked why there are evil people in the world "who do not respect human life."- Father Thomas Muldowney, Pennsylvania State Police chaplain


SWAT drops Flash grenade in toddler play pen =


Brianna Stefansky, from Shapsville, PA, said, "We don't know the danger they go through on a daily basis and what they put their lives on the line for, so everyone should give them a thanks, and not judge them or criticize them for the way they handle things."
 
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Grand jury: No criminal charges in raid that injured toddler in Habersham County

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In their 15-page presentment, the grand jury found no cause for criminal charges against the any deputies involved in the botched SWAT raid. but they had plenty to say about the investigation.

The jury called it “sloppy and hurried” and “not in accordance with best practices.” The grand jury said while they want law enforcement to pursue drug dealers “the zeal to hold them accountable must not override cautious and patient judgment.”

They went on to say “there should be no such thing as an emergency drug investigation.”

A sheriff’s task force said they had a witness to drug sales at the home and expected to find a known drug dealer inside. They obtained a no-knock warrant. Instead, they encountered the child and his parents sleeping just beyond this door.

To that point, the grand jury recommended “that every effort should be made in determining presence of children.”

“What stood out to me is how hard they worked and struggled,” said District Attorney Brian Rickman.

Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh asked Rickman, “A lot of people have said throughout this that if a flash bang, a grenade, exploded inside a child’s crib, something went wrong. A lot of people were hoping that someone would be held accountable.”

Rickman said, “To answer the question that’s absolutely true. I think what people have to be careful about -- there’s a difference in criminal responsibility versus, of course there will be a civil lawsuit, but also some of the personal accountability.

There is still an ongoing criminal investigation with the U.S. Attorney's Office.

The grand jury wants their findings read to the entire Georgia Assembly. They believe the tragedy that happened in Habersham County could happen to any community and they don't want any other children hurt.

The family’s spokesman said the parents are distraught and not satisfied. The spokesman said they will likely move forward with civil suit. They plan a news conference Tuesday to discuss the future plans in more detail.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/no-criminal-charges-be-filed-raid-injured-toddler-/nhczX/
 
Without a trial, their recommendations are no more than toilet paper in the outhouse. There will not be a change in policy until the offenders are held to account.

Good job sheriff. Hope you get you pay raise! Don't forget to swing by the Army Navy surplus store and pick up some fruit salad to bestow upon your heroic underlings.

XNN
 
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