Suspected gas attack on Syria's rebel-held Idlib kills at least 58: Observatory

[jmdrake]

When Obama drew his line and didn't respond, Assad knew that countries would not do anything if it happened again. Especially with the Russians helping out.

Okay. So let's see. You believe Assad gassed babies because......? He sits around hoping for an opportunity to further turn world opinion against himself? For what purpose?

This is what's interesting. When the Kurds were gassed, Ronald Reagan vetoed sanctions against Saddam. His justification? A U.S. Army War College report that blamed the gassing of the Kurds on Iran. A few years later...after Saddam became a pariah for invading Kuwait...all of a sudden everybody "knew" that it was Saddam who gassed the Kurds. Hmmmm....

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/a-war-crime-or-an-act-of-war.html

 

[anaconda]

Any evidence yet that Mossad did this? I bet anything they did.

Don't forget the Saudis, too.

 

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/849792436754935809

 

[devil21]

Hopefully, we can laugh at Nicki Haley soon pointing to satellite pictures.

Maybe they'll mix it up this time? Have Haley point to pictures of aspirin factories converted to producing incubators full of babies that are ground up to make VX gas that is dropped on people running from the burning congressional building to the sinking cruise ship that is carrying munitions to the communists in south Pacific ocean. No one will suspect that.

 

[Origanalist]

 

[Origanalist]

I'm not really on a side, this is a significant event that could very well lead to another war.

 

[Origanalist]

But what the (Syrian) government tells us is never in doubt. Interesting dichotomy. The US government always lies. Other governments never lie.

How many times do you need to be led by lies into war before you at least pause before jumping on the bandwagon? In your case I guess there is no limit to be found.

 

[AZJoe]

The cooler head will certainly not be Nikki Haley. What a national embarrassment she is. She is making John Bolton and Lindsey Graham look rational.

With Nikki, we get full blown neocon propaganda, delivered with a full helping of "it's for the children" emotional hysteria.

Yup - typical - outrage before facts. Conclusion first, then fix up some show investigation to reach the preordained conclusion.

 

[jmdrake]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/849792436754935809

Well I would +rep you for this if I could.

 

[Madison320]

A republican led war on Syria would be good for the democratic party. That might explain some of the "positions" taken by certain Ron Paul Forum members.

 

[Zippyjuan]

How many times do you need to be led by lies into war before you at least pause before jumping on the bandwagon? In your case I guess there is no limit to be found.

Actually I have been saying we should not be in Syria at all.

 

[A. Havnes]

Even Dore is calling false flag. Good points raised, though.

 

[AZJoe]

If Assad had merely dropped burning napalm on civilians- the Washington way, all would be well. But no, he had to go and hit Washington's "moderate" terrorist's chemical storage stockpile. Oh the selective Washington outrage based on false accusations. Time for Washington to go kill some Syrians, make another entire populace destitute, and create millions more refugees, not to mention create terrorists.

 

[Firestarter]

I´ve never been able to understand the “bombs for peace/democracy/freedom” mantra.

According to former U.S. Representative Ron Paul it’s highly unlikely that President Bashir al Assad is behind the recent gas attack in Syria that are being used to justify bombing Syria: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/ro...hind-the-false-flag-chemical-attack-in-syria/

Here’s the interview with Ron Paul (the UK/US financed White Helmets is one of the “reliable” sources that Assad´s regime is behind the gas attack): https://youtu.be/LULzvg1gA5U

Here’s a story on the White Helmets: http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/...ias-white-helmets-raises-even-more-questions/

 

[devil21]

I´ve never been able to understand the “bombs for peace/democracy/freedom” mantra.

According to former U.S. Representative Ron Paul it’s highly unlikely that President Bashir al Assad is behind the recent gas attack in Syria that are being used to justify bombing Syria: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/ro...hind-the-false-flag-chemical-attack-in-syria/

Here’s the interview with Ron Paul (the UK/US financed White Helmets is one of the “reliable” sources that Assad´s regime is behind the gas attack): https://youtu.be/LULzvg1gA5U

Here’s a story on the White Helmets: http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/...ias-white-helmets-raises-even-more-questions/

I hadn't heard of the White Helmets until this gas thing. Looks like the propaganda arm and they are very well paid to stage it.

Purely coincidence this is their logo, I'm sure:

Go to their website and see their "store", where you can donate to buy supplies for them. Looks like government pricing. $145 for a cheap plastic helmet. $218 for some rope. $93 for a fire extinguisher.
https://www.whitehelmets.org/en

 

[timosman]

I hadn't heard of the White Helmets until this gas thing. Looks like the propaganda arm and they are very well paid to stage it.

 

[klamath]

I agree 100% and look forward to the day this troll is banned.

Wow it looks like your president acted on so called troll post.

 

[Firestarter]

Let’s see if I understand.

BOMBS TO CREATE FAMINE
When bombs are thrown on civilians by the US army this is not a war crime but an unfortunate accident. When bombs are thrown on food and water supply, this is not a war crime, but this also results in many dead civilians.
In 2016 there were stories about the starvation of Aleppo. I guess that according to the official story - not ISIS is to blame, but Assad’s regime.
In 2016 alone the US army dropped a whopping 26,171 bombs; that’s more than 500 bombs a week (3 bombs every hour): https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
The Russian army has helped to cover Syria with bombs since September 2015.
Of course the state media can always explain that I’m wrong to think that bombing food and water by the US and Russian army and the sanctions against Syria are the main reason for the human catastrophe in Syria: http://www.voanews.com/a/syria-food-shortages-rise-as-production-hits-record-low/3596722.html


WHITE HELMETS/SOHR
There are a total of 2 sources that have accused the Syrian government of the Sarin gas attack: the white helmets and SOHR.
That’s the White Helmets that are financed from the US/UK. Here’s a story on the great “humanitarian” work of the White helmets: http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/...ias-white-helmets-raises-even-more-questions/
Then there’s the undisputed Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) of Rami Abdulrahman. Abdulrahman is actually based in London, who hasn’t been in Syria for more than 15 years, and is probably a one man organisation: http://anonhq.com/truth-behind-oft-quoted-syrian-observatory-human-rights/


FALSE FLAG ATTACK
Clearly we have to believe that the White helmets are completely insane; in the following picture we can see White helmets treating some child victims of the Sarin gas. One of them actually touches a child without hand gloves, while in the background we can see somebody without a gas mask. Sarin is highly toxic and leads to immediate health problems for idiots that act like this.
The only conclusion can be that these children weren’t gassed with Sarin: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ative-about-syrian-chemical-incident-question

Former British Ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, has said that it’s improbable that Assad’s regime or the Russians are behind the chemical attack: https://youtu.be/pS6Oa_aDS6E
Former US representative Ron Paul has also explained that it’s unlikely that this gas attack is the work of the Syrian government.


GAS ATTACK ONE DAY BEFORE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE
The reported Sarin gas attack of last April 4, was one day before the International conference on Syria in Brussels, Belgium: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-conference-idUSKBN176001
Decide for yourself...
Do we believe that President Assad is a complete imbecile that bombs his own people, one day before this conference?
Or is it more probable that the UK/US arranged a false flag attack, blame it on Assad, to make the most of the conference to condemn Assad?


GAS PIPELINE
According to the following article 2 gas pipelines are planned to go through Syria; either coming from Iran or Qatar.
Supposedly one of these is backed by Russia and the other by the USA: http://www.news.com.au/world/middle...t/news-story/74efcba9554c10bd35e280b63a9afb74
Of course in reality only one of these is really planned and the other is a decoy, as both Washington and Russia take their orders from London.


GOLAN HEIGHTS – WATER, OIL, AFEK
The Golan Heights that Israel has taken from Syria since 1981 are “strategically” important; like Israel has admitted (Israel admits this is the reason to keep it occupied).
There is a large amount of water there, while Israel (like Syria) has problems getting enough water: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-is...-natural-resources-water-land-and-oil/5521207

One of the reasons to discredit Assad’s regime is to squash criticism of the annexation of the Golan Heights by Israel.
There is also a lot of oil in the Golan Heights.

For some years now the company Afek Oil and Gas (a subsidiary of New Jersey-based Genie Energy Ltd.) is exploring the possibilities for oil drilling in the Golan Heights.
Maybe you’ve never of Afek, but some of the investors are well-known. Names on the Strategic Advisory Board (SAB) include: Baron Jacob Rothschild, Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, and James Woolsey: http://www.mintpressnews.com/what-rothschild-murdoch-cheney-and-israel-love-most-about-syria/209542/
The following video is mostly about this connection but also explores some other angles.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=1]MIT expert claims latest chemical weapons attack in Syria was staged[/h]
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mit-expert-claims-latest-chemical-100819428.html

 

[Firestarter]

Jon Rappoport has written a short summary of some of the reasons why it’s very improbable that the Assad regime used chemical weapons against his own population last April 4.
Amongst others he quotes ex-CIA officer Philip Giraldi who doubts that the US intelligence and military sources indicated that Assad attacked his own people:
“Thus, a serious question arises whether President Trump did receive that ‘high degree of confidence’ assessment from the intelligence community or whether he shunted Pompeo aside to eliminate an obstacle to his desire to launch the April 6 rocket attack” - https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/...bt-official-story-on-assad-poison-gas-attack/


President Assad has been ridiculed by our wonderful state media, for denying that his administration carried out the attack on April 4.
Assad has even said that possibly the dead children were faked to give Donald Trump a reason to carry out an attack against Syria:
“We don’t know whether those dead children were killed in Khan Sheikhoun.Were they dead at all?”.
According to the “independent” British delegation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, samples proved that Sarin had been used in the attack.

In the meantime the (not independent!) Syrian government’s news agency accused American warplanes “without evidence” of bombing a chemical weapons cache possessed by ISIS on Wednesday, leaving hundreds dead, including “a large number of civilians, due to suffocation caused by the inhalation of toxic materials”.
The strike, on Tuesday in Tabqah, Syria, was the third time in a month that American-led airstrikes may have killed civilians or allies: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/middleeast/assad-syria-video-faked.html?_r=1


I’ve found a strong article by Theodore A. Postol, an expert at MIT in ballistic missiles and how toxic plumes move in the air.
This article is difficult to read. Postol pays a lot of attention to how he estimated the times of the day, by using shadows in the pictures, which detracts from what he’s saying.

According to the official story the attack with poison gas, happened at 6:55 AM (local time). Because the temperature was too low at that time, most of the liquid Sarin wouldn’t evaporate.
It is unlikely that any terrorist would use liquid Sarin (which is quite difficult to use) at a time that the air temperature would be too low to evaporate.

This means that by 11 AM still a lot of the poison liquid wouldn’t have evaporated. We can see an unprotected individual next to the crater of the supposed chemical weapon attack at 10:50 AM. The area where he’s standing would be toxic and this individual would be subjected to the severe effects of Sarin.

Analysis using weather data (wind direction) shows that only a small hamlet about 300 m to the east, southeast of the crater could be affected by the alleged nerve agent. Beyond the hamlet is a substantial amount of open space; so behind there could be no large amount of victims of the Sarin.
The videos don’t show a mass casualty at the hamlet, but victims at other locations (which is impossible).

The article also features more pictures of people treating victims of the Sarin gas attack without the necessary protective gear.
The conclusion is obvious – the nerve agent attack described in the WHR did not occur as claimed: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...s-false-flag-nerve-agent-attack-did-not-occur