Susan Stimpson for Lt. Gov. 2013

[Lightweis]

I know plenty of Ron Paul supporters headed towards Jackson. You'd be surprised James.

Your right. Jackson has definitely improved since the last time I asked him questions. I don't think he can run an actual campaign though. A good speech yes. I need to see more from him.

 

[thoughtomator]

Check this out - big time dirty tricks being pulled against Stimpson - spot the fake comment posters:

http://bearingdrift.com/2013/03/04/...visor-paul-milde-announces-for-corey-stewart/

 

[Spotsylvania-4-Liberty]

This isn't cool guys. I'm loosing faith in Stimpson by the day. Even Donna Holt, a Stimspon supporter, has came out against slating.

http://bearingdrift.com/2013/03/10/slating-becomes-scandal-in-virginia-lg-race/

 

[Todd]

beware of paid candidate stooges who pose as forum regulars.

 

[cjm]

This isn't cool guys. I'm loosing faith in Stimpson by the day. Even Donna Holt, a Stimspon supporter, has came out against slating.

http://bearingdrift.com/2013/03/10/slating-becomes-scandal-in-virginia-lg-race/

"Bearing Drift" is often referred to as "Bearing Left" down in this part of the state. This is just a hit piece. I recommend reading this account: It Wasn't a Slate, Guys.

March 10, 2013 Politics, Virginia Politics 3 Comments
It Wasn’t A Slate, Guys
by sdgilleran

Here are the facts, from someone who was there.
First, the Stimpson campaign was not involved. Before I came on board with the Stimpson campaign, I specifically wanted to know what their thoughts were on slating. I am adamantly anti-slating, and I’ve discussed the topic with enough people that my opinions should be well-known. I agree that the Party Plan should be amended to remove known Democrats, etc. at the state credentials committee level. If I felt that this was a slate, I would not have agreed to participate.
There were 27 voters at the Mass Meeting. 26 ballots were cast; the majority to elect was 14. It was not necessary to receive a unanimous vote, as the Bearing Drift post claimed. In fact, I believe all potential delegates received at least one vote against. Susan Edwards, who is State Central from the 9th District, counted the ballots.
There were 12 persons pre-filed to be delegate. 9 were elected. The three not elected were three former members of the CCRC – the former chair and his wife, and another member. One of those people had voted in a Democratic primary in the last five years, and if Greg L. from BVBL can move to remove Maureen Caddigan, that person was justifiably removed as well. It’s also been claimed that known Democrats were appointed to the Electoral Board during the previous chairman’s tenure. One can argue about the old guard v. new guard thing and whether it was right to not elect them. Had I been a Craig County voter, I would have voted for them. Ultimately, however, their candidate preference had nothing to do with their non-election; the Craig County delegation will not be 100% Stimpson. In fact, the filing of at least one Stimpson supporter was rejected for being late. In any event, Jordan actually had no idea that one was a Martin supporter until I spoke with a Martin staffer about the incident later that night.
With regard to Justin Higgins‘ claim that the “slating” was illegal, Justin should understand that the Rules adopted by the Mass Meeting supersede RONR. The Rules of the Mass Meeting stated that the election of Delegates would occur by secret ballot and that a majority was necessary to election. Here’s the relevant rule(s):

7. Elections shall require a majority of the total Mass Meeting vote as certified by the Credentials Committee. There shall be no cumulative voting.

11. Voting on the Election of Delegates shall be conducted by secret ballot, and administered by the Vote Counting and Resolution Committee as appointed by the Chair.

[EDIT: Justin and I have had a colloquy about the situation; his argument is that the rules as written only provided for a ballot vote on the 12 potential delegates as one whole bloc. I think that's reading the rules overly literally; the clear intention was that the delegates were to be voted on individually. Justin is the first person to advance that reading. The minutes of the Mass Meeting will clarify exactly what happened around the nomination of delegates.]
At the end of the day, a Mass Meeting has the right to not elect people they don’t want to be Delegates for whatever reason. Appointing Democrats to the Republican seats on the Electoral Board; voting in Democratic primaries; and running a dead Republican committee (one simply cannot deny the difference in the CCRC between the old Committee and the new one) are very justifiable reasons not to elect if a mass meeting has that power. I respect that there’s a fine line between that and slating, and in a small county like Craig, it may have the same effect. But this was not a slate.

 

[Todd]

Regarding Scott Linkamfelter

This is all you need to know folks.

Since retiring from the military, he has worked for the private sector focused on strategic planning in support of the senior leadership for the U.S. Missile Defense Agency in Washington, D.C. Additionally, he has worked in the emergency management and homeland security arena in support of Federal agencies, states and localities.

http://bearingdrift.com/2013/02/06/...y-the-sword-comment-stuns-americans-military/


http://www.vote4scott.com/content/ron-paul-said-what-he-meant-and-meant-what-he-said

I served 28 years in the United States Army. I swore a sacred oath on the same Constitution that Congressman Ron Paul did. It sickens me that our party -- the party of Reagan -- could put on a Republican stage a candidate who holds our party, our process, our principles and our nation in such utter contempt.

P.S. As expected, Senator Rand Paul tried to paper over his father’s words. Don’t you believe it. Today, everyone who ever has served in the military knows exactly what Dr. Paul and some of his supporters think about our country. I have never been more certain of why I am running for the Republican nomination for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia than I am on this day. Please stand with me

I haven't made my decision yet on LTG....but I'm certainly more wary of Lingamfelter than I am of Stimpson.

Might also want to pass on to your buddy that since Rand's star is rising, he might want to remove that post from his site, else it get wider attention that he isn't on the right side of "Conservatism" that's currently trending.

Oh and BTW....I've served in the military for 25 years and was not offended at this. Some of us are sick of the game you all play with us as your little corporate pawns.

 

[Todd]

bump.

Any more information on Susan?

 

[cjm]

bump.

Any more information on Susan?

Are you looking for anything in particular?

 

[Todd]

Are you looking for anything in particular?

Mostly gauging how the liberty community sees her compared with other LTG candidates. Not much info......except for the Linkamfelter apologist above.

 

[cjm]

Mostly gauging how the liberty community sees her compared with other LTG candidates. Not much info......except for the Linkamfelter apologist above.

Ah. Well, I still haven't done much research myself. I have a conflict the weekend of the convention so I will not be going unless the conflict gets canceled (which is not likely). Susan did come to our unit meeting and I got a chance to talk to her 1x1 for about 15 minutes afterwards. I wouldn't call her a liberty candidate, but she's definitely a fiscal conservative. From what I've gathered in discussions with other liberty activists, she and Jackson are the best things going for liberty minded voters and the vast majority are getting behind those two down here in the greater Roanoke Valley area. If I were to vote today, I'd vote for Stimpson over Jackson.

 

[thoughtomator]

I have spoken firsthand with both Stimpson and Jackson. While Jackson is otherwise pretty good, he's a war hawk. Doesn't matter much for LG, but Stimpson is a lot closer to being one of us overall.

This Snyder guy gives me the willies - very Manchurian vibes from that candidate.

 

[thoughtomator]

Some news in this race - TPTB are apparently very afraid of Stimpson. Someone actually sent an anonymous email slamming her (for opposing a huge tax hike, go figure) to what appears to be the registered delegates list. This follows on the heels of several other attempts to generate fake scandals on the part of the establishment crowd.

 

[cjm]

Some news in this race - TPTB are apparently very afraid of Stimpson. Someone actually sent an anonymous email slamming her (for opposing a huge tax hike, go figure) to what appears to be the registered delegates list. This follows on the heels of several other attempts to generate fake scandals on the part of the establishment crowd.

That Craig County slating charge is a complete fabrication btw. I've talked to some of the people that were there. No slating, just some local political drama. The committee that voted out the past chair last year also decided to vote the past chair and his wife off the delegate roll for the convention (plus one other person). It's just local drama being twisted into a state-wide fairy tale to attack Stimpson.

 

[Spotsylvania-4-Liberty]

beware of paid candidate stooges who pose as forum regulars.

Easy there. I'm not getting paid. Stimpson is one of my top choices along with Jackson as with most people in this thread.

Since then, Donna Holt has also clarified what happened in the "so-called" slating incident.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

The establishment is very afraid of Stimpson and it appears as if this is another example of them fearing her.

 

[Todd]

Easy there. I'm not getting paid. Stimpson is one of my top choices along with Jackson as with most people in this thread.

Since then, Donna Holt has also clarified what happened in the "so-called" slating incident.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

The establishment is very afraid of Stimpson and it appears as if this is another example of them fearing her.

No way. You came here pushing Linkamfelter. Do you really believe someone of his ilk will fly with people in this community?

BTW: There are alot more military person's here than you think that won't be falling for the following bullshit.

From Linkamfelter's own campaign website:

I served 28 years in the United States Army. I swore a sacred oath on the same Constitution that Congressman Ron Paul did. It sickens me that our party -- the party of Reagan -- could put on a Republican stage a candidate who holds our party, our process, our principles and our nation in such utter contempt.

P.S. As expected, Senator Rand Paul tried to paper over his father’s words. Don’t you believe it. Today, everyone who ever has served in the military knows exactly what Dr. Paul and some of his supporters think about our country. I have never been more certain of why I am running for the Republican nomination for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia than I am on this day. Please stand with me

This kind of blatant pseudo pro military jibberish isn't going to fly anymore. If you don't believe me, just watch Ricky Santorum over the next four years try to use this tactic and watch him crash and burn right back into obscurity where he belongs. People are sick of it. Including people in the military.

Yes.....Please tell me more about how "Pro Military" Linkamfelter is over Rand Paul and his father simply because he "served" (Many of us did). Seeing as how his civilian job is in direct conflict of interest with maintaining a constitutional "defensive military".

Yes the establishment is afraid of someone like Stimpson. Funny thing is that Linkamfelter fits that definition of establishment to a "T"

 

[Spotsylvania-4-Liberty]

No way. You came here pushing Linkamfelter. Do you really believe someone of his ilk will fly with people in this community?

BTW: There are alot more military person's here than you think that won't be falling for the following bullshit.

From Linkamfelter's own campaign website:



This kind of blatant pseudo pro military jibberish isn't going to fly anymore. If you don't believe me, just watch Ricky Santorum over the next four years try to use this tactic and watch him crash and burn right back into obscurity where he belongs. People are sick of it. Including people in the military.

Yes.....Please tell me more about how "Pro Military" Linkamfelter is over Rand Paul and his father simply because he "served" (Many of us did). Seeing as how his civilian job is in direct conflict of interest with maintaining a constitutional "defensive military".

Yes the establishment is afraid of someone like Stimpson. Funny thing is that Linkamfelter fits that definition of establishment to a "T"

Yeah and I was the first one who reported his attacks on Rand and Ron.

"Well I'll take back what I said about Scott Lingamfelter.

http://scottforva.com/content/ron-pa...t-what-he-said

It stinks to see someone I mostly agree with use this tragic situation to capitalize on the anti-Ron Paul sentiment in the party as a way to improve their stance in the LG race.

It is almost as bad as Jeannemarrie Davis using 9/11 anniversaries as a fundraiser.

Going after Rand Paul at the end was a dick move.

Still not 100% sold on Susan though. I know a lot of "non-establishment" Ron Paul supporters, if there is such thing, are getting behind E.W. Jackson. He had a strong showing at the Fredericksburg Patriots Candidate Forum.

I'd be alright with either one. "

Thought this was a thread to vet candidates....my apologizes.