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There is a slight difference big govt and socialism. We have mostly big govt in many African countries and very little of socialism. So that is not a good example, try again.
Sub Saharan Africa plans to move to Portland Maine
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There is a slight difference big govt and socialism. We have mostly big govt in many African countries and very little of socialism. So that is not a good example, try again.
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Just because there isn't much wealth to "share" doesn't change the philosophy.
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There is a super rich class in Nigeria, they for one can tax the hell out of these group and distribute the gains to the population, the oil companies can be nationalized also and the profits used to benefit the masses. If they were that much of a socialist, they would have enacted high taxes and nationalized their mineral sectors. But non of that is happening.
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It has happened in other African countries.
And we see how they act when they get to Europe or America.
They come here for the free stuff.
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It happened? like in the past?
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Have you heard of S. Africa?
It's happening there right now.
And the past matters, the countries where it happened in the past are still communist/socialist.
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South African mineral industry is still very much in private hand. But the farm land issues is complicated seeing as some people believe it was stolen from the natives. But yea, if the countries that tried redistribution and welfarism are still socialist and communist now, how come they are not confiscating the riches of the super wealthy and big corporations and distributing it to the poor?
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Communists are always hypocrites but that doesn't change the philosophy they teach their people in order to keep power.
S. Africa will get around to stealing more than just farmland as it destroys its economy.
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I have to live with the new fact that these hypocrite communists preach it and don't practice it. Luckily for all of us, the practice is the one that counts.
Question for u, would these people be any more welcomed if there were true capitalist? if the answer is no, then why does it matter what they are? "the country is full and we don't need any more disease carrying, violent, matchete carrying, low IQ Africans."
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Their practice is bad enough whether it is equal to their rhetoric or not, I don't want to live in the USSR whether they didn't practice "real communism" or not.
If they were equal to or superior to Americans in liberty culture I might welcome them unless they were significantly worse than Americans about other important factors like violent crime (a small enough difference could actually not matter if they were more liberty loving than the average American because they would help us to fix our weapons laws), those that bring a significant health risk like those from the area around the ebola outbreak would need to be held in quarantine for a sufficient amount of time as we discussed in another thread.
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The “poor huddled masses” coming across the southern border may not be so poor after all.
Swiss journalist Urs Gehriger recently visited African migrants who breached the border and hung out on the streets of San Antonio, Texas, waiting to go elsewhere in the country, and he met hostility from people who didn’t want to share details about their experiences, conflicted each other, and had rolls of $100 bills.
In a recording played on Fox News, Gehriger asks a migrant from Congo how she got to America.
She refused to say.
“We are here now in the United States. Why do you ask about Ecuador?” a woman said, referring to the reported country they passed through.
As Gehriger continued to ask simple questions, he said they backtracked and “were not answering at all.”
“They wouldn’t tell me anything about how they got here, and then they started to get aggressive and they were contradicting each other,” he told Laura Ingraham.
“One said they ran through the forest, and another said no, there was no forest, and they were actually arguing among themselves,” Gehriger said.
He said they started to get “aggressive” after questions about money and help.
Gehriger believes the illegals were coached on giving answers to authorities.
“I had the impression that somebody told them not to speak about it,” and acting like “now we’re here, you have to help us, give us money.”
“What I found from an aid worker there, they actually do have money. Quite a few of them, because he spotted them under a tree, right in front of the shelter, counting a roll of money with hundred dollar bills,” Gehriger told Ingraham.
More at: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/africans-coming-across-southern-border-have-rolls-of-100-bills/
Swiss journalist Urs Gehriger recently visited African migrants who breached the border and hung out on the streets of San Antonio, Texas, waiting to go elsewhere in the country, and he met hostility from people who didn’t want to share details about their experiences, conflicted each other, and had rolls of $100 bills.
In a recording played on Fox News, Gehriger asks a migrant from Congo how she got to America.
She refused to say.
“We are here now in the United States. Why do you ask about Ecuador?” a woman said, referring to the reported country they passed through.
As Gehriger continued to ask simple questions, he said they backtracked and “were not answering at all.”
“They wouldn’t tell me anything about how they got here, and then they started to get aggressive and they were contradicting each other,” he told Laura Ingraham.
“One said they ran through the forest, and another said no, there was no forest, and they were actually arguing among themselves,” Gehriger said.
He said they started to get “aggressive” after questions about money and help.
Gehriger believes the illegals were coached on giving answers to authorities.
“I had the impression that somebody told them not to speak about it,” and acting like “now we’re here, you have to help us, give us money.”
“What I found from an aid worker there, they actually do have money. Quite a few of them, because he spotted them under a tree, right in front of the shelter, counting a roll of money with hundred dollar bills,” Gehriger told Ingraham.
More at: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/africans-coming-across-southern-border-have-rolls-of-100-bills/
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Democrat border mayor goes ballistic over ‘dumping’ of illegal aliens in his town
https://www.conservativereview.com/...r-goes-ballistic-dumping-illegal-aliens-town/
Daniel Horowitz June 17, 2019
Del Rio used to be a quiet town of 40,000 residents bordering Mexico in central Texas. Even as the Rio Grande Valley to its southeast has seen constant waves of Central American migrants since 2014, Del Rio was untouched by the border crisis. Now, this part of Texas is one of the fastest-growing smuggling routes and is also the primary route of African migrants coming from countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Our federal government is so concerned about the desires of bogus asylum-seekers, and now even masses of illegal aliens who aren’t even seeking asylum, that they are failing to take into account the needs of local American communities. It’s not just right-wing cowboys upset about it. Liberal Democrat border town officials have had enough as well and are demanding federal action.
On June 8, Del Rio Mayor Bruno Lozano laced into staffers of Sen. John Cornyn at special meeting of local officials for not touring the city and taking a more proactive role in protecting border towns from the effects of illegal immigration.
“I asked that you go see firsthand and walk through what the Border Patrol is walking through, walk through the system of release, walk through the coalition [of nonprofits and churches], walk through the judicial process, because the senators aren’t here,” said Lozano, chewing out Jonathan Huhn, the director of Sen. Cornyn’s San Antonio office. He accused Texas’ two senators of not showing up. “They need to see firsthand what’s going on. They need to understand the frustrations that the commissioners, or that the city council, the school board, the hospital officials are managing [and] having to deal with.”
Last week, I interviewed Uvalde, Texas, Mayor Don McLaughlin, who is part of a group of south central Texas counties that have expressed the same frustration. “We’re trying to be so politically correct in everything we do now that it’s going to get somebody hurt, said McLaughlin on my podcast Friday. “We need to throw the skunk on the table and put it right out in the open where people can see. If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change, a big change, in America. But our elected officials tend to want to keep it quiet. … The elected officials we have right now aint cuttin’ it.”
At the Del Rio meeting, Mayor Lozano was incredulous. “We do not have the funds to fund this project that has manifested and been dumped here in the city of Del Rio Texas, Val Verde County, and the entire border. And we’re frustrated. We’re extremely frustrated. Our priorities on the city council are our streets, are our parks, are the economy, are the drive of the community and the places of worship and the places to have leisure activities. It is not the priority to solve immigration. … I will not stand for having to be dumped and find a solution, as mayor … for immigration. It is not our purview; it is not our jurisdiction. It is your job to ensure that you convey the frustration that I share with you all to ensure that our representatives at the federal level are hearing it. It’s falling on deaf ears, and we are tired of it. We are sick and tired of the deaf ears. … It’s happening in real time.”
The meeting was attended by city council members, county commissioners, the Val Verde County judge, and school board officials. The mayor also complained that they lack interpreters who speak Portuguese and French to communicate specifically with the African migrants.
This statement is very telling because Lozano, a Democrat who has been known to wear high heels, is not exactly a right-winger. Tellingly, when he ran for mayor of the border town just a year ago, he suggested that he wanted to educate northerners that the border is not a “war zone.” That tells you just how rapidly things have changed, with Del Rio becoming a transit zone for migrants from all over the world coming and draining city transportation services as well as the town’s only hospital.
Watching this mayor’s reaction to the border crisis brings to mind similar reactions from officials in Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida last month, when they heard a rumor that 1,000 illegal aliens would be dumped into their counties. These are very Democrat jurisdictions, but even they had zero appetite for the strains of illegal immigrants.
With another African caravan waiting just on the other side of Del Rio in Mexico, why would Trump not care more about the blowback from local citizens for letting them in as opposed to blowback from illegal alien advocacy groups for keeping them out?
I have already established that the president has the delegated and inherent authority to deny entry to anyone, and that overrides even real asylum requests. This was established in Sale v. Haitian Centers Council, Inc. (1993) and Sesay v. Immigration and Naturalization Service INS (2003) and reiterated last year in Trump v. Hawaii. Trump can simply announce to the world that the charade is over and that anyone showing up at our land border without proper documents is inadmissible and will be turned back.
This is especially potent now because, by my calculation, close to 80 percent of family units are coming over parts of our border that are separated from Mexico by the Rio Grande River. Just like Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton kept Haitian asylum seekers off our shores in the early 1990s, Trump can do the same with those attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
Border Patrol already has maritime assets, but the president could order a “hold the line” strategy on the river by marshalling every available boat from the military and placing the National Guard, the Coast Guard, and other active-duty troops on boats all along the river. Add to them all other federal agents who can been temporarily reassigned. They should refuse to allow anyone to cross and turn back anyone caught making the trip. It’s worth creating such a force for several weeks, because after just a few weeks of turnbacks, those thinking of making the trip will change their plans. This is exactly what happened with the Nicaraguans at the Texas border in 1989.
It is utterly stupefying why the president hasn’t been doing this for the past 8-12 months and certainly for the past several months of unprecedented crisis.
With both Republicans and independents listing immigration as the top issue of concern to America, and many Democrats who are actually affected directly by the crisis now crying foul, Trump needs to realize that he will get more blowback from people who actually vote by continuing catch-and-release than by announcing a complete shutoff of illegal immigration and asylum requests at our border for the foreseeable future.
As Mayor McLaughlin of Uvalde told me, “If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change.” The president has the power to inform the American people both of the scope of the problem and his inherent authority to solve it. Current law and current executive authority over border entry are your friends, Mr. President.
https://www.conservativereview.com/...r-goes-ballistic-dumping-illegal-aliens-town/
Daniel Horowitz June 17, 2019
Del Rio used to be a quiet town of 40,000 residents bordering Mexico in central Texas. Even as the Rio Grande Valley to its southeast has seen constant waves of Central American migrants since 2014, Del Rio was untouched by the border crisis. Now, this part of Texas is one of the fastest-growing smuggling routes and is also the primary route of African migrants coming from countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Our federal government is so concerned about the desires of bogus asylum-seekers, and now even masses of illegal aliens who aren’t even seeking asylum, that they are failing to take into account the needs of local American communities. It’s not just right-wing cowboys upset about it. Liberal Democrat border town officials have had enough as well and are demanding federal action.
On June 8, Del Rio Mayor Bruno Lozano laced into staffers of Sen. John Cornyn at special meeting of local officials for not touring the city and taking a more proactive role in protecting border towns from the effects of illegal immigration.
“I asked that you go see firsthand and walk through what the Border Patrol is walking through, walk through the system of release, walk through the coalition [of nonprofits and churches], walk through the judicial process, because the senators aren’t here,” said Lozano, chewing out Jonathan Huhn, the director of Sen. Cornyn’s San Antonio office. He accused Texas’ two senators of not showing up. “They need to see firsthand what’s going on. They need to understand the frustrations that the commissioners, or that the city council, the school board, the hospital officials are managing [and] having to deal with.”
Last week, I interviewed Uvalde, Texas, Mayor Don McLaughlin, who is part of a group of south central Texas counties that have expressed the same frustration. “We’re trying to be so politically correct in everything we do now that it’s going to get somebody hurt, said McLaughlin on my podcast Friday. “We need to throw the skunk on the table and put it right out in the open where people can see. If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change, a big change, in America. But our elected officials tend to want to keep it quiet. … The elected officials we have right now aint cuttin’ it.”
At the Del Rio meeting, Mayor Lozano was incredulous. “We do not have the funds to fund this project that has manifested and been dumped here in the city of Del Rio Texas, Val Verde County, and the entire border. And we’re frustrated. We’re extremely frustrated. Our priorities on the city council are our streets, are our parks, are the economy, are the drive of the community and the places of worship and the places to have leisure activities. It is not the priority to solve immigration. … I will not stand for having to be dumped and find a solution, as mayor … for immigration. It is not our purview; it is not our jurisdiction. It is your job to ensure that you convey the frustration that I share with you all to ensure that our representatives at the federal level are hearing it. It’s falling on deaf ears, and we are tired of it. We are sick and tired of the deaf ears. … It’s happening in real time.”
The meeting was attended by city council members, county commissioners, the Val Verde County judge, and school board officials. The mayor also complained that they lack interpreters who speak Portuguese and French to communicate specifically with the African migrants.
This statement is very telling because Lozano, a Democrat who has been known to wear high heels, is not exactly a right-winger. Tellingly, when he ran for mayor of the border town just a year ago, he suggested that he wanted to educate northerners that the border is not a “war zone.” That tells you just how rapidly things have changed, with Del Rio becoming a transit zone for migrants from all over the world coming and draining city transportation services as well as the town’s only hospital.
Watching this mayor’s reaction to the border crisis brings to mind similar reactions from officials in Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida last month, when they heard a rumor that 1,000 illegal aliens would be dumped into their counties. These are very Democrat jurisdictions, but even they had zero appetite for the strains of illegal immigrants.
With another African caravan waiting just on the other side of Del Rio in Mexico, why would Trump not care more about the blowback from local citizens for letting them in as opposed to blowback from illegal alien advocacy groups for keeping them out?
I have already established that the president has the delegated and inherent authority to deny entry to anyone, and that overrides even real asylum requests. This was established in Sale v. Haitian Centers Council, Inc. (1993) and Sesay v. Immigration and Naturalization Service INS (2003) and reiterated last year in Trump v. Hawaii. Trump can simply announce to the world that the charade is over and that anyone showing up at our land border without proper documents is inadmissible and will be turned back.
This is especially potent now because, by my calculation, close to 80 percent of family units are coming over parts of our border that are separated from Mexico by the Rio Grande River. Just like Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton kept Haitian asylum seekers off our shores in the early 1990s, Trump can do the same with those attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
Border Patrol already has maritime assets, but the president could order a “hold the line” strategy on the river by marshalling every available boat from the military and placing the National Guard, the Coast Guard, and other active-duty troops on boats all along the river. Add to them all other federal agents who can been temporarily reassigned. They should refuse to allow anyone to cross and turn back anyone caught making the trip. It’s worth creating such a force for several weeks, because after just a few weeks of turnbacks, those thinking of making the trip will change their plans. This is exactly what happened with the Nicaraguans at the Texas border in 1989.
It is utterly stupefying why the president hasn’t been doing this for the past 8-12 months and certainly for the past several months of unprecedented crisis.
With both Republicans and independents listing immigration as the top issue of concern to America, and many Democrats who are actually affected directly by the crisis now crying foul, Trump needs to realize that he will get more blowback from people who actually vote by continuing catch-and-release than by announcing a complete shutoff of illegal immigration and asylum requests at our border for the foreseeable future.
As Mayor McLaughlin of Uvalde told me, “If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change.” The president has the power to inform the American people both of the scope of the problem and his inherent authority to solve it. Current law and current executive authority over border entry are your friends, Mr. President.
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Democrat border mayor goes ballistic over ‘dumping’ of illegal aliens in his town
https://www.conservativereview.com/...r-goes-ballistic-dumping-illegal-aliens-town/
Daniel Horowitz June 17, 2019
Del Rio used to be a quiet town of 40,000 residents bordering Mexico in central Texas. Even as the Rio Grande Valley to its southeast has seen constant waves of Central American migrants since 2014, Del Rio was untouched by the border crisis. Now, this part of Texas is one of the fastest-growing smuggling routes and is also the primary route of African migrants coming from countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Our federal government is so concerned about the desires of bogus asylum-seekers, and now even masses of illegal aliens who aren’t even seeking asylum, that they are failing to take into account the needs of local American communities. It’s not just right-wing cowboys upset about it. Liberal Democrat border town officials have had enough as well and are demanding federal action.
On June 8, Del Rio Mayor Bruno Lozano laced into staffers of Sen. John Cornyn at special meeting of local officials for not touring the city and taking a more proactive role in protecting border towns from the effects of illegal immigration.
“I asked that you go see firsthand and walk through what the Border Patrol is walking through, walk through the system of release, walk through the coalition [of nonprofits and churches], walk through the judicial process, because the senators aren’t here,” said Lozano, chewing out Jonathan Huhn, the director of Sen. Cornyn’s San Antonio office. He accused Texas’ two senators of not showing up. “They need to see firsthand what’s going on. They need to understand the frustrations that the commissioners, or that the city council, the school board, the hospital officials are managing [and] having to deal with.”
Last week, I interviewed Uvalde, Texas, Mayor Don McLaughlin, who is part of a group of south central Texas counties that have expressed the same frustration. “We’re trying to be so politically correct in everything we do now that it’s going to get somebody hurt, said McLaughlin on my podcast Friday. “We need to throw the skunk on the table and put it right out in the open where people can see. If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change, a big change, in America. But our elected officials tend to want to keep it quiet. … The elected officials we have right now aint cuttin’ it.”
At the Del Rio meeting, Mayor Lozano was incredulous. “We do not have the funds to fund this project that has manifested and been dumped here in the city of Del Rio Texas, Val Verde County, and the entire border. And we’re frustrated. We’re extremely frustrated. Our priorities on the city council are our streets, are our parks, are the economy, are the drive of the community and the places of worship and the places to have leisure activities. It is not the priority to solve immigration. … I will not stand for having to be dumped and find a solution, as mayor … for immigration. It is not our purview; it is not our jurisdiction. It is your job to ensure that you convey the frustration that I share with you all to ensure that our representatives at the federal level are hearing it. It’s falling on deaf ears, and we are tired of it. We are sick and tired of the deaf ears. … It’s happening in real time.”
The meeting was attended by city council members, county commissioners, the Val Verde County judge, and school board officials. The mayor also complained that they lack interpreters who speak Portuguese and French to communicate specifically with the African migrants.
This statement is very telling because Lozano, a Democrat who has been known to wear high heels, is not exactly a right-winger. Tellingly, when he ran for mayor of the border town just a year ago, he suggested that he wanted to educate northerners that the border is not a “war zone.” That tells you just how rapidly things have changed, with Del Rio becoming a transit zone for migrants from all over the world coming and draining city transportation services as well as the town’s only hospital.
Watching this mayor’s reaction to the border crisis brings to mind similar reactions from officials in Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida last month, when they heard a rumor that 1,000 illegal aliens would be dumped into their counties. These are very Democrat jurisdictions, but even they had zero appetite for the strains of illegal immigrants.
With another African caravan waiting just on the other side of Del Rio in Mexico, why would Trump not care more about the blowback from local citizens for letting them in as opposed to blowback from illegal alien advocacy groups for keeping them out?
I have already established that the president has the delegated and inherent authority to deny entry to anyone, and that overrides even real asylum requests. This was established in Sale v. Haitian Centers Council, Inc. (1993) and Sesay v. Immigration and Naturalization Service INS (2003) and reiterated last year in Trump v. Hawaii. Trump can simply announce to the world that the charade is over and that anyone showing up at our land border without proper documents is inadmissible and will be turned back.
This is especially potent now because, by my calculation, close to 80 percent of family units are coming over parts of our border that are separated from Mexico by the Rio Grande River. Just like Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton kept Haitian asylum seekers off our shores in the early 1990s, Trump can do the same with those attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
Border Patrol already has maritime assets, but the president could order a “hold the line” strategy on the river by marshalling every available boat from the military and placing the National Guard, the Coast Guard, and other active-duty troops on boats all along the river. Add to them all other federal agents who can been temporarily reassigned. They should refuse to allow anyone to cross and turn back anyone caught making the trip. It’s worth creating such a force for several weeks, because after just a few weeks of turnbacks, those thinking of making the trip will change their plans. This is exactly what happened with the Nicaraguans at the Texas border in 1989.
It is utterly stupefying why the president hasn’t been doing this for the past 8-12 months and certainly for the past several months of unprecedented crisis.
With both Republicans and independents listing immigration as the top issue of concern to America, and many Democrats who are actually affected directly by the crisis now crying foul, Trump needs to realize that he will get more blowback from people who actually vote by continuing catch-and-release than by announcing a complete shutoff of illegal immigration and asylum requests at our border for the foreseeable future.
As Mayor McLaughlin of Uvalde told me, “If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change.” The president has the power to inform the American people both of the scope of the problem and his inherent authority to solve it. Current law and current executive authority over border entry are your friends, Mr. President.
https://www.conservativereview.com/...r-goes-ballistic-dumping-illegal-aliens-town/
Daniel Horowitz June 17, 2019
Del Rio used to be a quiet town of 40,000 residents bordering Mexico in central Texas. Even as the Rio Grande Valley to its southeast has seen constant waves of Central American migrants since 2014, Del Rio was untouched by the border crisis. Now, this part of Texas is one of the fastest-growing smuggling routes and is also the primary route of African migrants coming from countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Our federal government is so concerned about the desires of bogus asylum-seekers, and now even masses of illegal aliens who aren’t even seeking asylum, that they are failing to take into account the needs of local American communities. It’s not just right-wing cowboys upset about it. Liberal Democrat border town officials have had enough as well and are demanding federal action.
On June 8, Del Rio Mayor Bruno Lozano laced into staffers of Sen. John Cornyn at special meeting of local officials for not touring the city and taking a more proactive role in protecting border towns from the effects of illegal immigration.
“I asked that you go see firsthand and walk through what the Border Patrol is walking through, walk through the system of release, walk through the coalition [of nonprofits and churches], walk through the judicial process, because the senators aren’t here,” said Lozano, chewing out Jonathan Huhn, the director of Sen. Cornyn’s San Antonio office. He accused Texas’ two senators of not showing up. “They need to see firsthand what’s going on. They need to understand the frustrations that the commissioners, or that the city council, the school board, the hospital officials are managing [and] having to deal with.”
Last week, I interviewed Uvalde, Texas, Mayor Don McLaughlin, who is part of a group of south central Texas counties that have expressed the same frustration. “We’re trying to be so politically correct in everything we do now that it’s going to get somebody hurt, said McLaughlin on my podcast Friday. “We need to throw the skunk on the table and put it right out in the open where people can see. If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change, a big change, in America. But our elected officials tend to want to keep it quiet. … The elected officials we have right now aint cuttin’ it.”
At the Del Rio meeting, Mayor Lozano was incredulous. “We do not have the funds to fund this project that has manifested and been dumped here in the city of Del Rio Texas, Val Verde County, and the entire border. And we’re frustrated. We’re extremely frustrated. Our priorities on the city council are our streets, are our parks, are the economy, are the drive of the community and the places of worship and the places to have leisure activities. It is not the priority to solve immigration. … I will not stand for having to be dumped and find a solution, as mayor … for immigration. It is not our purview; it is not our jurisdiction. It is your job to ensure that you convey the frustration that I share with you all to ensure that our representatives at the federal level are hearing it. It’s falling on deaf ears, and we are tired of it. We are sick and tired of the deaf ears. … It’s happening in real time.”
The meeting was attended by city council members, county commissioners, the Val Verde County judge, and school board officials. The mayor also complained that they lack interpreters who speak Portuguese and French to communicate specifically with the African migrants.
This statement is very telling because Lozano, a Democrat who has been known to wear high heels, is not exactly a right-winger. Tellingly, when he ran for mayor of the border town just a year ago, he suggested that he wanted to educate northerners that the border is not a “war zone.” That tells you just how rapidly things have changed, with Del Rio becoming a transit zone for migrants from all over the world coming and draining city transportation services as well as the town’s only hospital.
Watching this mayor’s reaction to the border crisis brings to mind similar reactions from officials in Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida last month, when they heard a rumor that 1,000 illegal aliens would be dumped into their counties. These are very Democrat jurisdictions, but even they had zero appetite for the strains of illegal immigrants.
With another African caravan waiting just on the other side of Del Rio in Mexico, why would Trump not care more about the blowback from local citizens for letting them in as opposed to blowback from illegal alien advocacy groups for keeping them out?
I have already established that the president has the delegated and inherent authority to deny entry to anyone, and that overrides even real asylum requests. This was established in Sale v. Haitian Centers Council, Inc. (1993) and Sesay v. Immigration and Naturalization Service INS (2003) and reiterated last year in Trump v. Hawaii. Trump can simply announce to the world that the charade is over and that anyone showing up at our land border without proper documents is inadmissible and will be turned back.
This is especially potent now because, by my calculation, close to 80 percent of family units are coming over parts of our border that are separated from Mexico by the Rio Grande River. Just like Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton kept Haitian asylum seekers off our shores in the early 1990s, Trump can do the same with those attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
Border Patrol already has maritime assets, but the president could order a “hold the line” strategy on the river by marshalling every available boat from the military and placing the National Guard, the Coast Guard, and other active-duty troops on boats all along the river. Add to them all other federal agents who can been temporarily reassigned. They should refuse to allow anyone to cross and turn back anyone caught making the trip. It’s worth creating such a force for several weeks, because after just a few weeks of turnbacks, those thinking of making the trip will change their plans. This is exactly what happened with the Nicaraguans at the Texas border in 1989.
It is utterly stupefying why the president hasn’t been doing this for the past 8-12 months and certainly for the past several months of unprecedented crisis.
With both Republicans and independents listing immigration as the top issue of concern to America, and many Democrats who are actually affected directly by the crisis now crying foul, Trump needs to realize that he will get more blowback from people who actually vote by continuing catch-and-release than by announcing a complete shutoff of illegal immigration and asylum requests at our border for the foreseeable future.
As Mayor McLaughlin of Uvalde told me, “If most people knew what was happening at the border, you might see a change.” The president has the power to inform the American people both of the scope of the problem and his inherent authority to solve it. Current law and current executive authority over border entry are your friends, Mr. President.
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The Lexington-Fayette County Health Department is planning to monitor certain migrants for Ebola.
More at: http://www.ebolaoutbreakmap.com/listings/ebola-kentucky-migrants-arrive-with-ebola/
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With African illegal aliens now crossing the border illegally with thousands of Central Americans, border agents are worried about being infected with the Ebola virus. And with good reason. Up and down the border, officials have told the Washington Examiner, agents are reporting to work ill because of the prolonged and constant contact with sick and diseased aliens.
Mumps, measles, scabies, the flu, and strep throat, along with the possibility of typhus, are bad enough. But Ebola, the African killer virus that causes a fatal hemorrhagic fever, is a terrifying possibility given that some of the Africans are from the Democratic Republic of Congo.
That benighted nation in the center of the Dark Continent is dealing with an outbreak of the Ebola Virus Disease that has killed nearly 1,500 people.
Border Officials: Agents Are Getting Sick
In a dispatch from Eagle Pass, Texas, the Examiner reported yesterday that agents are worried about Ebola, “but more of them are worried about other illnesses frequently popping up among detainees at stations across the southern border, according to union representatives.”
The illegals are bringing in myriad diseases and infecting the agents, the newspaper reported. Jon Anfinsen, a National Border Patrol Council vice president and based in Del Rio, told the Examiner that agents are exposed to an “unprecedented” number of diseases.
“Scabies, chickenpox — we had one case of the mumps here in Uvalde. I wanna say we had measles — plenty of the flu, plenty of colds, body lice, just assorted. And some of these things, they spread like wildfires when you get into a cramped holding cell. It happens,” he told the Examiner.
“We have a lot of agents who are sick,” he told the newspaper. “The other day I talked to agents from four different stations. And every single one of them had a cough.”
Anfinsen too picked up a bug from the infected and contagious invaders:
“I’ll go and I’ll help process. There was one day I spent processing and we had like 40 Guatemalans and Hondurans, and most of them had some kind of cough. And sure enough the next day, I’m sick — for a week,” he said. “It’s become the new normal, and you gotta just keep going and do your job because you can’t just not process them.”
Another agent and border union official, Wesley Farris, told the Examiner that the illnesses are hitting the border in breakouts that come in “waves.”
“It’ll go in waves. Scabies — strep throat was the last one. Strep throat happened at the Santa Teresa station [in New Mexico]. It was everywhere,” Farris said. “Active tuberculosis comes in fairly regularly. We had an incident of H1N1, swine flu, in Clint [Texas] with a juvenile. And then the ones that are most disruptive are the simple ones: regular flu or lice.”
Scabies is an infection of the skin from itch mites, while lice are particular threat because they carry typhus, a flu-like disease caused by the bacterium Rickettsia prowazekii, but that threat is minor compared to the much more deadly Ebola Virus Disease.
Farris wants the Centers for Disease Control to send help to the border given that it is trying to help fight the outbreak of EVD in the DRC.
African Deluge
The EVD threat comes from what the Associated Press, reprising a report from Breitbart, calls a record number of Africans hitting the border.
“One recent Saturday in Tijuana, there were 90 Cameroonians lined up to get on a waiting list to request asylum that has swelled to about 7,500 names,” AP reported. “Also on the waiting list are Ethiopians, Eritreans, Mauritanians, Sudanese and Congolese.”
The Cameroonians, AP reported, are flying to Ecuador, then traveling north through Panama and Central America to get to the southwest border.
More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...about-contracting-ebola-from-african-illegals
Mumps, measles, scabies, the flu, and strep throat, along with the possibility of typhus, are bad enough. But Ebola, the African killer virus that causes a fatal hemorrhagic fever, is a terrifying possibility given that some of the Africans are from the Democratic Republic of Congo.
That benighted nation in the center of the Dark Continent is dealing with an outbreak of the Ebola Virus Disease that has killed nearly 1,500 people.
Border Officials: Agents Are Getting Sick
In a dispatch from Eagle Pass, Texas, the Examiner reported yesterday that agents are worried about Ebola, “but more of them are worried about other illnesses frequently popping up among detainees at stations across the southern border, according to union representatives.”
The illegals are bringing in myriad diseases and infecting the agents, the newspaper reported. Jon Anfinsen, a National Border Patrol Council vice president and based in Del Rio, told the Examiner that agents are exposed to an “unprecedented” number of diseases.
“Scabies, chickenpox — we had one case of the mumps here in Uvalde. I wanna say we had measles — plenty of the flu, plenty of colds, body lice, just assorted. And some of these things, they spread like wildfires when you get into a cramped holding cell. It happens,” he told the Examiner.
“We have a lot of agents who are sick,” he told the newspaper. “The other day I talked to agents from four different stations. And every single one of them had a cough.”
Anfinsen too picked up a bug from the infected and contagious invaders:
“I’ll go and I’ll help process. There was one day I spent processing and we had like 40 Guatemalans and Hondurans, and most of them had some kind of cough. And sure enough the next day, I’m sick — for a week,” he said. “It’s become the new normal, and you gotta just keep going and do your job because you can’t just not process them.”
Another agent and border union official, Wesley Farris, told the Examiner that the illnesses are hitting the border in breakouts that come in “waves.”
“It’ll go in waves. Scabies — strep throat was the last one. Strep throat happened at the Santa Teresa station [in New Mexico]. It was everywhere,” Farris said. “Active tuberculosis comes in fairly regularly. We had an incident of H1N1, swine flu, in Clint [Texas] with a juvenile. And then the ones that are most disruptive are the simple ones: regular flu or lice.”
Scabies is an infection of the skin from itch mites, while lice are particular threat because they carry typhus, a flu-like disease caused by the bacterium Rickettsia prowazekii, but that threat is minor compared to the much more deadly Ebola Virus Disease.
Farris wants the Centers for Disease Control to send help to the border given that it is trying to help fight the outbreak of EVD in the DRC.
African Deluge
The EVD threat comes from what the Associated Press, reprising a report from Breitbart, calls a record number of Africans hitting the border.
“One recent Saturday in Tijuana, there were 90 Cameroonians lined up to get on a waiting list to request asylum that has swelled to about 7,500 names,” AP reported. “Also on the waiting list are Ethiopians, Eritreans, Mauritanians, Sudanese and Congolese.”
The Cameroonians, AP reported, are flying to Ecuador, then traveling north through Panama and Central America to get to the southwest border.
More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...about-contracting-ebola-from-african-illegals
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Needy citizens go without as Maine city opens arms to migrants
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/0...o-without-as-portland-opens-arms-to-migrants/
In this June 13, 2019 photo, a migrant woman sleeps on a cot inside the Portland Exposition Building in Portland, Maine. Maine’s largest city has repurposed the basketball arena as an emergency shelter in anticipation of hundreds of asylum seekers who are headed to the state from the U.S. southern border. Most are arriving from Congo and Angola. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
By PAUL R. LEPAGE |
PUBLISHED: June 21, 2019 at 12:59 am | UPDATED: June 21, 2019 at 9:00 am
As The Wall Street Journal reported in January of this year, Portland, Maine, is in a crisis from large numbers of people crossing the nation’s southern border and making their way here, attracted by our generous welfare services. Congress’ failure to work with President Trump to resolve the crisis at the border is affecting the entire nation.
On June 14, the governor of Maine, Janet Mills, stated: “We’ve been dealt a situation that we’re going to deal with as a broader community, not just the city of Portland.
“The broader community of the people of the state of Maine are going to be lending a hand and helping these people who are in such dire need.”
Yes, the generous people of Maine will help. But Mills is wrong about one thing: The state was not “dealt” this situation. Liberals, living in their echo chamber with their partners in the media, created this migrant crisis in Portland, and she played a role.
During my eight years as governor of Maine, I implemented major welfare reforms to limit dependence on government and grow our workforce. My goal was always to direct our limited resources to Maine’s neediest, especially our elderly and people with intellectual disabilities.
State programs that serve these groups have long had waitlists and despite my proposals to eliminate them by fully funding those services, the Democrat-led legislature instead used those funds to support Portland’s insatiable welfare programs.
Portland is a wonderful city, but its leaders are reckless. I heeded the wise words of Ronald Reagan, “If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.” Portland’s leaders, encouraged by the liberal media, did not.
Numerous editorials in the Portland Press Herald not only hailed the immigrants as the only way to turn the state’s economy around but also advocated for non-enforcement of immigration laws and expanding welfare programs to virtually all non-citizens. In February, the editorial page editor proclaimed, “Portland has problems, now and looming in the future. But ‘overrun with immigrants’? Please. We should be so lucky.”
And a columnist, referencing the plan announced last week to warehouse migrants in a Portland sports arena, urged Mainers “to not look at what’s going on down at the Expo as a crisis and see it as a wise and warmhearted investment in our shared future.”
It’s a major investment, all right. In just the month of September last year, Portland paid more than $125,000 in General Assistance aid to 273 asylum seekers.
The leaders of Portland — and the liberal activists whose nonprofits benefit from state-funded contracts to serve these populations — know that to keep the money flowing, the state must pick up the tab.
While I was governor, then-Attorney General Janet Mills sided with liberal activists, suing my administration to ensure unfettered access to welfare by non-citizens. As a result, Portland likely has the most generous welfare benefits for non-citizens of any city in the nation.
Well, word gets around. Desperate municipal and state officials throughout the country, and especially along the nation’s southern border, viewed sending migrants to Maine as a means of alleviating a bit of the financial burden they are bearing. For the cost of a bus ticket, people are out of their shelters on their way to ours.
Of course Maine should be a welcoming state and we must help these newcomers, but we are also a poor one with many residents with serious needs still ignored by the liberals in Augusta. In addition to our waitlists, our nursing homes are closing. We have homeless veterans and homeless families who need places in shelters and affordable housing.
Now Portland is opening up shelter beds for asylum seekers while denying those same beds to Maine people in need.
Accepting and assimilating a mass influx of immigrants requires planning and resources. It’s hard work. Liberals in Portland wanted to be welcoming. But they made no attempt to plan for how to bring these people to Maine and what to do with them when they got here. It is bad public policy as well as unconscionable to attract people here with the promise of benefits and support that you cannot provide.
And their plan to have the state provide it, which Gov. Mills has vowed to do, is problematic, too. Her budget didn’t plan for a rainy day and spent virtually all the money Maine had in a massive expansion of government. Now people are showing up at our door.
Gov. Mills is going to have to find a way to solve this problem. It’s either going to be cut services or find more money.
She should have paid more attention to Ronald Reagan.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/0...o-without-as-portland-opens-arms-to-migrants/
In this June 13, 2019 photo, a migrant woman sleeps on a cot inside the Portland Exposition Building in Portland, Maine. Maine’s largest city has repurposed the basketball arena as an emergency shelter in anticipation of hundreds of asylum seekers who are headed to the state from the U.S. southern border. Most are arriving from Congo and Angola. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
By PAUL R. LEPAGE |
PUBLISHED: June 21, 2019 at 12:59 am | UPDATED: June 21, 2019 at 9:00 am
As The Wall Street Journal reported in January of this year, Portland, Maine, is in a crisis from large numbers of people crossing the nation’s southern border and making their way here, attracted by our generous welfare services. Congress’ failure to work with President Trump to resolve the crisis at the border is affecting the entire nation.
On June 14, the governor of Maine, Janet Mills, stated: “We’ve been dealt a situation that we’re going to deal with as a broader community, not just the city of Portland.
“The broader community of the people of the state of Maine are going to be lending a hand and helping these people who are in such dire need.”
Yes, the generous people of Maine will help. But Mills is wrong about one thing: The state was not “dealt” this situation. Liberals, living in their echo chamber with their partners in the media, created this migrant crisis in Portland, and she played a role.
During my eight years as governor of Maine, I implemented major welfare reforms to limit dependence on government and grow our workforce. My goal was always to direct our limited resources to Maine’s neediest, especially our elderly and people with intellectual disabilities.
State programs that serve these groups have long had waitlists and despite my proposals to eliminate them by fully funding those services, the Democrat-led legislature instead used those funds to support Portland’s insatiable welfare programs.
Portland is a wonderful city, but its leaders are reckless. I heeded the wise words of Ronald Reagan, “If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.” Portland’s leaders, encouraged by the liberal media, did not.
Numerous editorials in the Portland Press Herald not only hailed the immigrants as the only way to turn the state’s economy around but also advocated for non-enforcement of immigration laws and expanding welfare programs to virtually all non-citizens. In February, the editorial page editor proclaimed, “Portland has problems, now and looming in the future. But ‘overrun with immigrants’? Please. We should be so lucky.”
And a columnist, referencing the plan announced last week to warehouse migrants in a Portland sports arena, urged Mainers “to not look at what’s going on down at the Expo as a crisis and see it as a wise and warmhearted investment in our shared future.”
It’s a major investment, all right. In just the month of September last year, Portland paid more than $125,000 in General Assistance aid to 273 asylum seekers.
The leaders of Portland — and the liberal activists whose nonprofits benefit from state-funded contracts to serve these populations — know that to keep the money flowing, the state must pick up the tab.
While I was governor, then-Attorney General Janet Mills sided with liberal activists, suing my administration to ensure unfettered access to welfare by non-citizens. As a result, Portland likely has the most generous welfare benefits for non-citizens of any city in the nation.
Well, word gets around. Desperate municipal and state officials throughout the country, and especially along the nation’s southern border, viewed sending migrants to Maine as a means of alleviating a bit of the financial burden they are bearing. For the cost of a bus ticket, people are out of their shelters on their way to ours.
Of course Maine should be a welcoming state and we must help these newcomers, but we are also a poor one with many residents with serious needs still ignored by the liberals in Augusta. In addition to our waitlists, our nursing homes are closing. We have homeless veterans and homeless families who need places in shelters and affordable housing.
Now Portland is opening up shelter beds for asylum seekers while denying those same beds to Maine people in need.
Accepting and assimilating a mass influx of immigrants requires planning and resources. It’s hard work. Liberals in Portland wanted to be welcoming. But they made no attempt to plan for how to bring these people to Maine and what to do with them when they got here. It is bad public policy as well as unconscionable to attract people here with the promise of benefits and support that you cannot provide.
And their plan to have the state provide it, which Gov. Mills has vowed to do, is problematic, too. Her budget didn’t plan for a rainy day and spent virtually all the money Maine had in a massive expansion of government. Now people are showing up at our door.
Gov. Mills is going to have to find a way to solve this problem. It’s either going to be cut services or find more money.
She should have paid more attention to Ronald Reagan.
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