Stupidity we're up against

[billv]

This is the kind of stupidity we're up against:

http://rayrobison.typepad.com/ray_robison/2007/05/i_dont_care.html#comment-70873494

 

[lucky]

Yes

This is the kind of stupidity we're up against:

http://rayrobison.typepad.com/ray_robison/2007/05/i_dont_care.html#comment-70873494

Totally expected and probably be seeing a lot of this stuff. Get used to it. This is an uphill battle that is just starting.

 

[billv]

Totally expected and probably be seeing a lot of this stuff. Get used to it. This is an uphill battle that is just starting.

It's just frustrating when it's impossible to argue logically with people. The dense can be difficult.

 

[lucky]

Yes

It's just frustrating when it's impossible to argue logically with people. The dense can be difficult.

It is and understand. Bill, I have been on the internet for many years and have seen this many times. Sometimes it is best not to argue but move on and discuss with someone else that is more open minded. A few years ago I was more close minded and so sure of things that anyone that tried to say different was an idiot to me. I was not as crude as him but still the same.

If I can change then others can. Just got to discuss things with the ones that are more apt to listen. If they get as crude as him and start resorting to name calling then it is best to go away.

Also some may not change right away. If they at least discuss things and you still can't make headway then it was not fruitless. They will remember what was discussed and may change as I did.

 

[X_805]

That blog entry is extremely disappointing. Radical name-calling without any logical argument. It kind of saddens me that some people choose not to think and only respond to acts of terrorism with emotion. That is what the terrorists want.

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

Neocons typically use ad hominem attacks and non sequitors. I heard one say that the moment we pull out of Iraq will be the moment terrorist attacks happen en masse across the country.

I kid you not.

 

[zMtLlC]

It's nothing but a maze of contradictions and illogicalities. Has anyone on here read The Authoritarians online? It's a really good book about these sort of people.

 

[Shmuel Spade]

I think his outbursts are a sign of desperation. A signal that he's almost over the edge trying to rationalize his cognitive dissonance, and that with a little time left to himself he'll come around. Right now he has to save face, "what am I gonna say to all those libs I've been bashing for years?!" But that happens to all neo-cons that get turned around.

I put in my 2 cents on his page.

 

[billv]

Thanks for the responses over there.

 

[jimmyjamsslo]

sophistry

'Ray' utilizes sheer sophistry both in that blogpost and in his original article. I'm used to this annoying tactic from dealing with fundamentalist religionists when I was younger. I learned to not even enter discussion with people who use this tactic in any domain...
Then he resorts to lots of generalization and misdirection. Political legerdemain. In the first article he calls for reasonable introspection and look at his expletive-laden response in the blog. That's 'sanity'? Definitely a blowhard worth ignoring.

 

[Phillip Skains]

I think it's great. This shows just how much impact we are having. The tables are turning when the actual blog sounds like some angry comment one might leave on a blog, and the replies to it are well written, calm, and completely logical. By being sore losers, these guys are actually helping us.

 

[billv]

lol, interesting observation

 

[IrrigatedPancake]

Fighting against them probably just gives an excuse to ignore reality. There must be a better way to wake up people that are in that deep.

 

[billv]

I don't think people like that would bother me so much if they could use logic, facts, etc. to back up their arguments. Then at least I could respect such a position. However, his position seems to be that of Chicken Little, "The Sky is Falling, the Sky is Falling" with nothing to back it up.

 

[Marc Scott Emery]

Best That Dr. Paul's Adversaries Be Irrational

All of Dr. Paul's critics are irrational, have you noticed that? Whether its xenophobia (Muslims are out to destroy us & we need Rudy), or 'electability', or even the ravings of fired employees, whatever the criticism, its always contentless.

These critics are nervous because the people bypassed them and found Dr. Paul without Rush Limbaugh or Jerry Falwell's imprimateur. The detractors from the libertarian ranks are jealous as well as threatened. Dr. Paul's worldview is popular! His army is growing and we're militant. If we can take it to the streets, this Ron Paul Revolution, then there is great potential for a nationwide mass movement to build around Dr. Paul. His campaign of plain spoken idealism has the great possibility of cleansing and purifying the Republican Party, and making it a great Party of liberty and constitutionally faithful government.

 

[tnvoter]

All of Dr. Paul's critics are irrational, have you noticed that? Whether its xenophobia (Muslims are out to destroy us & we need Rudy), or 'electability', or even the ravings of fired employees, whatever the criticism, its always contentless.

These critics are nervous because the people bypassed them and found Dr. Paul without Rush Limbaugh or Jerry Falwell's imprimateur. The detractors from the libertarian ranks are jealous as well as threatened. Dr. Paul's worldview is popular! His army is growing and we're militant. If we can take it to the streets, this Ron Paul Revolution, then there is great potential for a nationwide mass movement to build around Dr. Paul. His campaign of plain spoken idealism has the great possibility of cleansing and purifying the Republican Party, and making it a great Party of liberty and constitutionally faithful government.

Prexactly.

No one I've seen bash Ron Paul - - has actually used any kind of facts to back up any of their opinions. Showing they either 1) haven't done any research 2) don't really care 3) are not conservative at all 4) all of the above

I was the same way until I actually looked at what Ron Paul stood for, and his honest voting record. I "woke up" to a president I had voted for twice, who hadn't followed through on his promises for less government, less spending, and a secure border. I was one of the 30% approving the presidents job for the most part - and his support for the amnesty issue confirmed my previous error in judgement and hope.

I'm not falling for broken promises from flip flopping politicians again (that includes fred thompson) aka Rudy McRompson, or Billary, or Obama or any of them.

Ron Paul in '08, "LIVE FREE OR DIE"

 

[RonPaul4President]

Stupidity we're up against

Oops! sorry I thought this was a thread about Hannity and Colmes. *tip-toes out of thread*

 

[peruvianRP]

I posted this. this is another point of view.

So if Radical Muslims want to attack and Kill non-muslims..would not be easier for them to attack Chile, Peru?
their economy is better but they dont have a good military force. I have live In Peru and freedom is as good as here but not the economy. So why radical muslims don't attak this countries?

and give me good answers and dont just say shit like "because AMERICA is the BEST" bullshit oK?

 

[UCFGavin]

I wouldn't be worried about him....hes most likely doing it for attention.

 

[RonPaul4President]

That guy is a complete ass. What is it about people like him and the two I mentioned above which are of the same mindset. You give them facts and they throw it back in your face as conspiracy. I say they can't handle the truth so they reroute it to their brain's toilet and spew the results out their mouths.