Student "Turned off" on Dr. Paul's stance on Global Warming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-QR88yfOE

IF YOU VOTE FOR RON PAUL, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PROTECT YOU FROM YOURSELF ANYMORE. THINK OF YOUR FAMILY, YOUR DUTY TO US, AND YOUR SAFETY. WE PROTECT YOU FROM DRUGS, TERRORISM AND POLLUTION. WE ARE YOUR SAVIOR. DO NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL. YOU ARE SAFE WITH US. WE PUT EVERYONE IN JAIL SO THEY CAN'T HURT YOU. WE KILL EVERYONE SO THEY CAN'T HURT YOU. DO NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL.

VOTE NO ON RON PAUL. VOTE YES FOR SAFETY
 
Maybe real- maybe not-
Maybe caused by humans- maybe cycle of nature

If it happens we will just have to deal with it. I am not too concerned- I do think we pollute and consume WAY too much - I struggle with this personally on a daily basis. I try to do small things to help- but our consumer society is so hard to work around.

$10/gal gas will force Americans to focus on new energy sources. The mother of invention will step in.

Hemp should be completely legal- stupid it is not.

We will survive- but will we be free?
 
Nefertiti said:
If it causes large movements in population, people losing their livelihood and homes, and perhaps even forced to migrate to other countries as a result, in a world of modern borders and visa requirements, what are people who are affected supposed to do?
Click to expand...

When a refugee movement is large enough, there is no stopping people at borders.
 
rp0x said:
The majority of climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by human activities such as fossil fuel burning and deforestation
Click to expand...

Oh goodie! So that's how scientific theory is turned into scientific fact: BY MAJORITY RULE!

It's like when all those German scientists got together and denounced Einstein's theory of relativity. I mean, there was a 'majority of scientists' at the time who agreed Einstein was wrong. So I guess that makes it correct?

I want to make something incredibly clear: SCIENCE IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.
 
Brilliant. Let me sum up.

Question: "How do we get citizens concerned about global warning to Ron Paul's side?"

Answer: "Tell them they're very, very stupid for believing such filthy lies and then kick them in the shin!"
 
Hope said:
Brilliant. Let me sum up.

Question: "How do we get citizens concerned about global warning to Ron Paul's side?"

Answer: "Tell them they're very, very stupid for believing such filthy lies and then kick them in the shin!"
Click to expand...


I agree with you, Hope, this is not a productive approach. What would you suggest? I can't get into the heads of people who care about global warming one way or the other so much that it would affect their presidential choice. Do you have any insights?
 
Corydoras said:
I agree with you, Hope, this is not a productive approach. What would you suggest? I can't get into the heads of people who care about global warming one way or the other so much that it would affect their presidential choice. Do you have any insights?
Click to expand...

I think you have to point out that the government cannot enforce morality. The government tried for years to get people to use alternative energy, they were practically giving money away by the thousands to anyone who would buy a hybrid or pledge to use energy efficient lights, etc. But people wouldn't do it. Why? Because it wasn't in the market place. People either felt that they simply didn't need to do those things or they didn't trust an investment in alternative energies. But once the American people catch onto something -- and that trend is already heavily underway from the numbers in recent yaers -- then things change quicker and more efficiently than they ever could have with the gov't involved.

Insofar as corporations, you can see the same trends there. No on forces BP Gasoline to spend millions of dollars every year making sure they have good envionrmental policies and spend millions more investing in enviornmentally friendly causes. They do it because it's common sense. When government tries to force businesses to do these things, they do in such a clumsy, corrupt way that it causes businesses to go bankrupt and creates the mega-corporation atmosphere that arises when only the richest businesses can basically buy off the gov't. We already have laws securely in place that crack down on corporations that violate envionrmental laws, but we can't enforce them because gov't has gotten so big that they are practically the last to know in almost every case.

Lastly I would argue that we cannot fight a global issue unless we are a global nation. We've been isolated for the past eight years under Bush and it is only through Ron Paul's foreign policy of free trade and diplomacy that we can hope to reinsert ourselves into the global swing of things. It's very important to RP that we set an example that the world wants to follow...when we become a nation worthy of respect and emulation, China and India will begin to see how our enviornmental policies are working, sound policies. Who's going to listen to us about anything when we're trying to police the world and our dollar is dropping like a rock? It's all tied together, and unlike other politicians who make flimsy promises to one special interest group or another, Ron Paul realizes that it is only through real reform of our system that we can accomplish the things we want to do for the world.
 
Last edited:
Corydoras said:
I agree with you, Hope, this is not a productive approach. What would you suggest? I can't get into the heads of people who care about global warming one way or the other so much that it would affect their presidential choice. Do you have any insights?
Click to expand...

Shhh... this is a big secret, so don't tell anybody, but Al Gore is going to be Ron Paul's VP. :rolleyes:
 
And by the way, global warming is not one of my big issues. Doesn't make it in the top five, really. I've read up on the issue and while it's my personal opinion that it's probably occurring at least in part due to human influence, I don't think there's much our government can do about that. And I think it's an issue that the Republican Party has foolishly handed to he Dems on a silver platter, as if to say, "No, please -- you take this and use this as a weapon against us. We won't even PRETEND to care about the enviornment. Really. We don't mind if you take those votes away, if we lose elections because we're not even willing to discuss it, well, at least we had honor. Yeah."
 
I really like your long post, Hope, and I agree with you about Republican stupidity on this issue. Consumer demand for environmental efficiency and shareholder pressure on pollution have indeed done a great deal.

I'm not sure that anything can persuade people who are foolishly looking for a "radical" like the disappointed person described in the original post, but I'm grateful to have something to tell anyone who asks me about it.
 
Just because I don't believe in global warming doesn't mean I don't care about the environment. That's a nice little assumption people make.

I see all the damage pesticides, pharmaceuticals and genetically modified foods are doing to our environment, yet when I try to tell a so-called "environmentalist" about this stuff they say it's not important. They say it's not important because it's not what their college professor is talking about nor is it on the shiny bright TV.

Look at Starbucks. Environmentalist love this company. They think they are being responsible. Yet they use over 2.3 billion cups a year that cannot be recycled due to the plastic coating inside the cups. That company promotes all those annoying global warming movies to kids and how everything is made with recycled paper. However, their own cups cannot be recycled. Talk about complete bull.
Here is the article for reference. I didn't just make this up out of no where.
Coating on Coffee Cups Puts Lid on Recycling
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

ClaytonB
Let us remember the torture and rape of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui
2 3 4
Replies
72
Views
784
acptulsa
acptulsa
J
The End Fruit of the Israeli Attack on America on 9/11 is Here, Gen. Wes Clark, "...And Finishing off, Iran." Well Played, Khazars
Replies
4
Views
135
James_Madison_Lives
J
Brian4Liberty
Ron Paul Institute (RPI) for Peace and Prosperity Conference 2024
Replies
7
Views
8K
Brian4Liberty
Brian4Liberty
PAF
The Great Retreat: How Trump and Harris Are Looking Backward
Replies
2
Views
3K
CCTelander
C
Anti Federalist
The Satanic Abortion Clinic That’s Pissed Off Pretty Much Everyone
Replies
5
Views
932
Anti Federalist
Anti Federalist
Back
Top