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He can't choose GJ because he is trying to court people who are pro-life (GJ is pro-choice), and he can't choose any of the rest because they suck.

It would just be used against him.

iirc the question was who would you choose and why? Gary said Ron Paul because they are the only two fighting for limited constitutional government and state rights. Ron should have said Gary for the same reason. It just seemed put offish that we finally hear two liberty voices on stage, granted different opinions on a few issues but for Ron to in a way dismiss Gary as someone who doesn't resonate the liberty message just left a bad taste in my mouth, as well as many others, and I think it hurts him more than choosing Gary would have.


EDIT: please don't take my tone as rude, I'm not trying to be! :p (prolly what Ron Paul would say in his defense, lol)
 
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Well said. My fiance who is not entirely sold on RP said something along the lines of Dr. Paul being rude about the VP question and that's not typical of him (paul).

i would have to agree with you. I expected more from ron paul on that answer. I am a ron paul addict but i have to give ron paul an f on that answer!!
 
i would have to agree with you. I expected more from ron paul on that answer. I am a ron paul addict but i have to give ron paul an f on that answer!!

I saw it as Dr. Paul realizing it was the last he was going to get to speak. And being pissed off that he's in third and having had to go through "debate training" that he doesn't like to get basically ignored all night... I saw him as wanting to point out that he is indeed in third to the people in the few seconds he had left to do so.
 
I saw it as Dr. Paul realizing it was the last he was going to get to speak. And being pissed off that he's in third and having had to go through "debate training" that he doesn't like to get basically ignored all night... I saw him as wanting to point out that he is indeed in third to the people in the few seconds he had left to do so.

i understand for sure ,but i was still dissapointed about the answer, now back to liberty:) Paul/Johnson 2012 Legalize Freedom

it might be time to protest all the msm and block the main hq until they admit to lying and deceiving americans!
 
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If RP would have turned around and said GJ it would have been a yuck get a hotel room you guys. There is more to chosing a VP than that. I am severely disappointed in GJ for running against RP and turning down a sure senate seat.
 
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What are you guys talking about, that was by far the most presidential answer he could give.
Saying Johnson would have been playing right into Fox's hands.
Ron approached the question as if he will actually soon be making it.
The ease with which Gary said Ron, to me, indicates that he sees it more as remaining a hypothetical.
 
havn't studied Johnson much. I liked him, seemed a little nervous. Surprised to see so many people think he shouldn't run. Paul supporters are as strong as they get, can't really see him trying to "dilute" Dr. Paul chances. People are ready for change, maybe not the majority, and maybe they don't quite understand the true meaning of liberty, and what the consitution could do for this country. But having more people put the words "Liberty" and "Constitution" into our political language is always good. Asking that question in a debate is a little out of line at this point, the moderators know what kind of trouble candidates could get in. And there is a reason they don't pick one until after the primaries.
 
If RP would have turned around and said GJ it would have been a yuck get a hotel room you guys. There is more to chosing a VP that. I am severely disappointed in GJ for running against RP and turning down a sure senate seat.

GJ is "running against Ron Paul"? Aside from the fact that GJ has been officially in the race since April, long before RP had even begun to make up his mind about running, (and GJ had been running in all but name, through his Our America PAC, for two years before that), there's also the fact that GJ never attacks RP, and goes beyond that, praising RP every chance he gets. In what way is GJ "running against Ron Paul"? We libertarians/constitutionalists are really spoiled, having two amazing candidates with amazing resumes running for President. So spoiled, in fact, that we're starting to act like spoiled brats.
 
I'm feeling better about GJ after the last debate. He's welcome to a few more. It feels sad to think that he seems rudderless after this Presidential campaign. I really hope he's involved in running for another office, or approaching the Presidency again in 2016. If Ron doesn't make it this time, Johnson/Rand Paul or Rand Paul/Johnson would be an incredible ticket.
 
Interesting stuff, ceresasmom don't let (if you can) that stop your fiance from supporting Ron, I would talk in terms of supporting Liberty / the message which helps deal with the fact that you rarely like every character trait in one person and that much more comes into play as many here have said.
My main point was only the lake of a "thank you", besides that and only that Ron's answer was great.He pointed out the fact he is third and is going to be 2nd and he didn't play the "game" on basis of principle.

Obama should be 100th
Yes yes yes, I'm not sure how you can put Obama before others, I don't like them either but as anti Liberty / evil as they are at least some have a small Liberty idea they promote.I don't know if they understand it, it might be random and my be a lie but Bachmann seems to understand parental rights and the unconstitutionality of so many executive orders (like those Romney, Perry, ... would / have install /ed) and Cain seems to understand at least somewhat the qualities of a true free market.There may be more examples or these maybe false, but you get my point.
 
I like Johnson a lot;would have no problem voting for him if RP wasn't running; glad he was in the debate.
 
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