Gary Johnson Stoked about Gary Johnson!

I still have no idea what Johnson is trying to accomplish.

It should be obvious to anyone that he has ZERO chance of being nominated.

What little support he does have is probably coming 90+% from people who would otherwise support Ron Paul.

If he just shows up for a couple more debates, then quits, fine. But I hope he isn't going to drag this thing out until the primaries.
 
I'm glad to see people acknowledged Gary's qualities, we should not be scared by the truth.
I hope also, but our skill at predicting the future isn't all that great and anyway besides a lap in morality on Gary's part attacking a Liberty supporter is not the way to go.
So speculation, theory ok, but lets not hate to much :).
 
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I still have no idea what Johnson is trying to accomplish.

It should be obvious to anyone that he has ZERO chance of being nominated.

What little support he does have is probably coming 90+% from people who would otherwise support Ron Paul.

If he just shows up for a couple more debates, then quits, fine. But I hope he isn't going to drag this thing out until the primaries.


I believe he's quite focused on the New Hampshire primary, so I think we'll see him until then.
 
I thought that video LirvA posted was fantastic. I like Gary being there!

I posted this back in February and I'll post it again. At CPAC, I happened to catch Gary when he was all alone at his table and talked with him for probably 15 minutes before he was off to do an interview. When we weren't talking about outdoorsmanship, I posed the question "are you definitely running?" To which he replied "Well, yes, for a while anyway." I didn't ask him to expand on that answer, but I took it as his intent to run and get his name out there and drop out before Iowa.

We might not want to admit it, but this is Ron's last hurrah. I hope it bears out 8 years of a Ron Paul presidency, but the movement can't end there or, Heaven forbid, with Ron losing and riding off into the sunset. Gary is poised to take the torch in life after Ron (year 1 AR.) This is a good opportunity for him to get some name recognition and potentially build a base going forward.
 
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I still have no idea what Johnson is trying to accomplish.

It should be obvious to anyone that he has ZERO chance of being nominated.

What little support he does have is probably coming 90+% from people who would otherwise support Ron Paul.

If he just shows up for a couple more debates, then quits, fine. But I hope he isn't going to drag this thing out until the primaries.

back in 2008, the same argument was put forward to remove Ron Paul from the debates.

don't let the force corrupt you
 
I think its wonderful that we have a successful two time governor who agrees with paul and as an example of a libertarian executive. It gives more credibility to Ron, especially when he was clearly kissing the rings of Ron on national TV. It made him seem much more reaganesque. I am glad to have him in the race if he can bring more people to the cause of liberty that ron can't get I'm all for it.
 
Gary Johnson was added to the debate just as Ron Paul is moving passed Bachmann into third place nationally. FAUX wants dilute Ron Paul's message. And it worked. Even though he is polling third nationally Paul got less time to speak than all the candidates except Gary Johnson.
 
NH is only one primary and the first.

Johnson has said he's staying in to the NH primary. If Johnson does well in the NH primary and then drops out and endorses Paul again then Johnson having some stature when he drops out will help Paul much more than everyone still saying "Johnson Who?" and Johnson endorsing Paul.

From a strategical point of view it would be in RP supporters best interest to support Johnson in just a tiny bit so he can carry out his NH Plan and get to 5-10% in NH. I won't come from RP supporters who are hard core in their choices already, but mostly from Romney supporters (social moderate business owner types).
 
The more people on the stage defending liberty, the Constitution, and an end to the wars, the better.
 
Gary Johnson was added to the debate just as Ron Paul is moving passed Bachmann into third place nationally. FAUX wants dilute Ron Paul's message. And it worked. Even though he is polling third nationally Paul got less time to speak than all the candidates except Gary Johnson.

So a there was a pro-liberty candidate talking twice as often as there would be if Johnson wasn't there? Sounds like a win to me.
 
My gut tells me that Johnson is fully aware of why He was included last night and doesn't intend to give them what they are looking for. He knows he is a long shot and the media will turn on him when they need to. He may end up endorsing Paul without officially endorsing. I'm sure he would be thrilled to be considered for VP.
 
I still have no idea what Johnson is trying to accomplish.

It should be obvious to anyone that he has ZERO chance of being nominated.

What little support he does have is probably coming 90+% from people who would otherwise support Ron Paul.

If he just shows up for a couple more debates, then quits, fine. But I hope he isn't going to drag this thing out until the primaries.

Consider GJ the vice libertarian. A backup or Plan B. There is only one Ron Paul but we all have a duty to defend liberty. Johnson has accomplished more than I ever will. Kudos to Gary!
 
That doesn't go well with the principle of Liberty dude, I hope with reflection you just didn't phrase yourself correctly.

PRINCIPLE is why WE support Ron, and sadly I have to say Dr Paul disappointed me quite a bit tonight on the VP question.
I know candidates have to be tactful, there where ways of picking Gary without hindering the campaign but Ron could AT LEAST have said THANK YOU.
It would have even been more principled to say what Ron said, that it would not be correct of him to pick at this moment but add that polite thank you and PRINCIPLED acknowledgment that Gary is on the side of Liberty.

Maybe he will contact Gary privately but that still leaves supporters not understanding.I am really having a problem with this and would appreciate your insight, info, or other...

Well said. My fiance who is not entirely sold on RP said something along the lines of Dr. Paul being rude about the VP question and that's not typical of him (paul).
 
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So much for the "its about the message not the messenger", because apparently only Ron Paul can be the messenger. We should be thrilled that there is another liberty candidate up there having his voice heard on national TV (regardless of whether Fox is actually trying to dilute RP's vote). In many ways I find Gary Johnson just as suitable a candidate as Ron. And I also had a small problem with Ron's answer to the VP question. Is it a tough decision? They asked if you had to pick someone on stage for a running mate who would it be and quite frankly I was very disappointed that Ron did not simply say "Gary Johnson". They are fighting the same fight with basically the same message....I thought it was a missed opportunity to return the favor for Gary's answer.
 
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Well said. My fiance who is not entirely sold on RP said something along the lines of Dr. Paul being rude about the VP question and that's not typical of him (paul).

He can't choose GJ because he is trying to court people who are pro-life (GJ is pro-choice), and he can't choose any of the rest because they suck.

It would just be used against him.
 
He can't choose GJ because he is trying to court people who are pro-life (GJ is pro-choice), and he can't choose any of the rest because they suck.

It would just be used against him.
Running mates don't need to fall lock in step with each other on every single issue.
 
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. Obama
4. the other GOP candidates

For every dollar I give to Paul, I give ten cents to Johnson.
 
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