Stick a Fork in the Daily Paul ... it's done.

The guy is not mentally stable.
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I'm sharing this with you because at this point I don't think he would mind. At one point in the past couple of months I was talking with him about what his thoughts were on his support of Rand Paul official campaign efforts, having worked with him in 2008 and 2012. I described to him my personal views and potential efforts regarding volunteering as a grassroots activist, and we were talking about the level of commitment required to accomplish certain things which he agreed with.



This was essentially his response:
I'm not really into Rand, and I'm not interested in trying to re-live the Ron Paul experience through Rand. And I can't see my entire world revolving around Rand Paul.

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Certainly there must be other, original, Rand friendly venues to do this? Rand remains a divisive issue on the Daily Paul, so it is just too much of a headache for me. If Rand Paul venues do not exist, this seems like the perfect opportunity for someone to create something similar to the DP for Rand.

My perspective is that Rand doesn't need the same kind of support from the grassroots that Ron did. No one had ever heard of Ron before. Rand is already famous, and has big fundraising power already. I also know that the Ron Paul campaign was annoyed by many of the grassroots efforts, and I'm sure that Rand's would be as well.

I'm not interested in getting involved this time around. Rand doesn't inspire me the way Ron did.

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best wishes in your endeavors.



Although some may disagree with his views or what he's doing with DP (and maybe take it personally) we should show at least a level of respect (as we would expect) for his past commitment to both the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, supporting; grassroots efforts, Ron Paul, and liberty.

Agreed.

I also know that the Ron Paul campaign was annoyed by many of the grassroots efforts, and I'm sure that Rand's would be as well.

Speaking from personal experience, he's ABSOLUTELY right about this!

In before Collins drops by with his excuses for why the grassroots needs to be led by the 'pros'. smfh. :rolleyes:
 
The guy is not mentally stable.

lol, I'd argue he's one of the few that ARE mentally stable. Nystrom knows Rand isn't going to win and even IF he did win, nothing would change. This system NEEDS to crash and burn. NOT voting, because you realize it's all an illusion, is one of the smartest things you can do. NOTA 2016!
 
I respect a man who lives up to his convictions. He's not going to turn Daily Paul into Randgasm site and he's not going back Rand with the same enthusiasm as Ron. After eight years, for him and many of us, it's time to move on.
 
I respect a man who lives up to his convictions. He's not going to turn Daily Paul into Randgasm site and he's not going back Rand with the same enthusiasm as Ron. After eight years, for him and many of us, it's time to move on.

That makes sense. But based on that logic, wasn't the time to move on like 3 years ago, when Ron Paul end his campaign, not when Rand Paul launches his campaign?

When I Google his name, I see he he praises Jesse Ventura and Dennis Kucinich. I guess, to me at least, it seems highly bizarre to start a pro-Ron Paul site and then shut it down right when the person in politics who most embodies Ron Paul's beliefs runs for higher office. I'm not sure supporting left wingers and undermining Rand Paul is acting principled. That said, he can do whatever he wants.
 
That makes sense. But based on that logic, wasn't the time to move on like 3 years ago, when Ron Paul end his campaign, not when Rand Paul launches his campaign?

When I Google his name, I see he he praises Jesse Ventura and Dennis Kucinich. I guess, to me at least, it seems highly bizarre to start a pro-Ron Paul site and then shut it down right when the person in politics who most embodies Ron Paul's beliefs runs for higher office. I'm not sure supporting left wingers and undermining Rand Paul is acting principled. That said, he can do whatever he wants.

Just a point of information Jesse Ventura is a contributor to Ron Paul's Voices of America website and Ron Paul has spoken positively of Dennis Kucinich as a "good friend" of his and in regards to being a "honest person" a number of times including this one.

 
I respect a man who lives up to his convictions. He's not going to turn Daily Paul into Randgasm site and he's not going back Rand with the same enthusiasm as Ron. After eight years, for him and many of us, it's time to move on.

:rolleyes:

This isn't him "moving on."

This is him burning down the house on his way out.

If he were just tired of running the site, or didn't want to be personally involved in pro-Rand activism, fine; he could have easily sold/given the site to somebody else.

Yet he absolutely refuses to do so, and insists on shutting it down instead.

The only conclusion to be drawn is that he is intentionally sabotaging pro-Rand activism. Who knows why, but that's the fact.

He doesn't want to support Rand, and he's going to do his darnedest to make sure that you won't either.

Respect? No, I think that's extremely fucked up.
 
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Just a point of information Jesse Ventura is a contributor to Ron Paul's Voices of America website and Ron Paul has spoken positively of Dennis Kucinich as a "good friend" of his and in regards to being a "honest person" a number of times including this one.

Dennis Kucinich and Jesse Ventura are Communists. Ron Paul is a big tent guy and will work with a wide range of people, which is why has been successful. I'm pointing out that is pretty silly to praise people like Jimmy Carter (which I vaguely remember this guy doing when I looked at posts on his site) and have a disdain for Rand Paul, who is like 95% the same as Ron Paul. It is so illogical. It is crazy.

http://www.dailypaul.com/330323/which-candidate-is-not-going-to-get-us-involved-in-any-wars
Jesus Christ. For crying out loud.
 
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lol, I'd argue he's one of the few that ARE mentally stable. Nystrom knows Rand isn't going to win and even IF he did win, nothing would change. This system NEEDS to crash and burn. NOT voting, because you realize it's all an illusion, is one of the smartest things you can do. NOTA 2016!

why don't YOU follow saint Michael?

and stop posting stuff that goes DIRECTLY against the mission statement.
 
Dennis Kucinich and Jesse Ventura are Communists. Ron Paul is a big tent guy and will work with a wide range of people, which is why has been successful. I'm pointing out that is pretty silly to praise people like Jimmy Carter (which I vaguely remember this guy doing when I looked at posts on his site) and have a disdain for Rand Paul, who is like 95% the same as Ron Paul. It is so illogical. It is crazy.

http://www.dailypaul.com/330323/which-candidate-is-not-going-to-get-us-involved-in-any-wars
Jesus Christ. For crying out loud.

There were lots of non-libertarians in the Ron Paul movement who were attracted to some part of Ron's platform without understanding the entire philosophy: e.g. anti-war lefties, organic food activists, religious homeschoolers, potheads, general conspiracy theorists, etc. The above post, and the many other examples of similarly odd behavior, could be explained by an extreme case of Rand Derangement Syndrome (i.e. Rand is not Ron therefore Rand is Hitler) or it could be that Nystrom was one of these non-libertarian fellow travelers all along (in Nystrom's case: anti-war lefty, I'd say). Or maybe he's nuts...
 
government mandated liberty
:rolleyes:

and then your buddy chimes in.

He's not going to turn Daily Paul into Randgasm site

is this your mission as well?

I have two questions for you. what does this mean.
government mandated liberty

and just EXACTLY what part of our Rule of Law applies to the people?
do I need to explain to you, that we are a Republic? :confused:
 
Just a point of information Jesse Ventura is a contributor to Ron Paul's Voices of America website and Ron Paul has spoken positively of Dennis Kucinich as a "good friend" of his and in regards to being a "honest person" a number of times including this one.

Thanks for sharing that. I find it greatly annoying when we allow the terms of controversy to revert back to commie speak.

I've been biting my tongue patiently with krug and some of those very unfair comments scattered around the board. Will see how long that lasts.
 
why don't YOU follow saint Michael?

and stop posting stuff that goes DIRECTLY against the mission statement.

Wait, I'm not exactly agreeing with ctiger2, but now we have to post viewpoints that only agree with the "mission statement"? We can't have any opposing views??
 
Wait, I'm not exactly agreeing with ctiger2, but now we have to post viewpoints that only agree with the "mission statement"? We can't have any opposing views??

curious. since both the states AND the fedgov are prohibited from being Democracies. (do I need to pause while you look it up?)

why was the Democratic process,
included in the system of checks and balances?

:confused:

the founders intent was to limit the accumulation of power.
and allow Anarchy to flourish.
I support this effort. :)

statists have ALWAYS overran non organized anarchists.
 
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