steve jobs died

[klamath]

Airborne373 is right. I don't know/care much about Apple (though I really like the 80's commercial about the individual), and I was being easily swayed by all these kind sentiments for Jobs. He's being compared to Lennon in the news right now! Ridiculous. The guy is as guilty as Nike and other big business: greedy to the point of destroying lives to make a profit. I won't celebrate his death, but I sure as hell am not mourning it.

The point is for human decency the moments after someone dies is a time to find the good things their lives brought. Out of general human curtesy you don't debate their bad points in the time of their passing.

 

[Matthew5]

I really do NOT understand the adoration for a SLAVER like Steve Jobs.

Iphone workers leap to death to escape working conditions.

Apple exploits children to make gadgets for U.S. consumers.

Just search the web it goes on and on....

iphone maker erects nets around building to prevent more suicides.

I will not shed a single tear for Steve Jobs.

Did you not use a machine that was built by slave labor to post this? Where do you think your computer components come from? Heck, where do you think most of the cheap/affordable items in modern society come from?

I'm not arguing for or against it, all I'm saying is, open up your computer and find out where these components came from. And then you can decide whether you want to beat this drum or not.

 

[cdc482]

Did you not use a machine that was built by slave labor to post this? Where do you think your computer components come from? Heck, where do you think most of the cheap/affordable items in modern society come from?

I'm not arguing for or against it, all I'm saying is, open up your computer and find out where these components came from. And then you can decide whether you want to beat this drum or not.

Terrible argument.

Everyone doing something wrong doesn't make it right. And it sure as hell doesn't mean it shouldn't change. Consider your audience. We are Ron Paul supporters. We don't like the status quo. We want change. You're argument is inconsistent to this audience.

 

[cdc482]

The point is for human decency the moments after someone dies is a time to find the good things their lives brought. Out of general human curtesy you don't debate their bad points in the time of their passing.

Good point. Can I ask where the human decency was after Osama died? Americans forgot about it in the moment. There's a difference between being decent and this idolization of Steve Jobs, which twists what is good and bad.

Remember the guy on Fox News complaining about the gay guy on Dancing with the Stars.
His complaint was that idolizing a gay guy would encourage more gays. Well, I don't agree with that argument, because no one is idolizing the dancer for being gay--people idolize him for being HIMSELF. However, his argument outline is relevant to Steve Jobs being idolized simply for making a big impact. Making a change is not a reason in itself to idolize someone (Think: Mussolini). The positivity or negativity of that change is what matters. Jobs' impact was negative overall. Apple did lead the way for some green business practices, but they ruined the lives of millions of people. I don't want anyone to be even slightly confused: Steve Jobs is not someone worth idolizing.

Lastly, I am being decent to Steve Jobs: Apple made an awesome commercial in the 80's. I have no other good things to say about him, because he ruined millions of lives.

 

[Matthew5]

Terrible argument.

Everyone doing something wrong doesn't make it right. And it sure as hell doesn't mean it shouldn't change. Consider your audience. We are Ron Paul supporters. We don't like the status quo. We want change. You're argument is inconsistent to this audience.

I never said it was right...you may have recalled that I didn't take a position on it.

I'm challenging people to see if they actually believe what they're saying or is it just a slogan cause for them. Did that person ensure that the computer you purchased was not manufactured using "slave" labor? If not, then why is it such a passion of someone that they have to trash an obit thread?

I understand, we're passionate about change, that's why we're doing something about it by trying to get Ron Paul elected. But I'm curious to see the justification of someone who decries the very technology they're using.

 

[2_Thumbs_Up]

The country sure is going downhill. When Reagan was president we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Jobs. In Obama's America, we have no Cash, no Hope and no Jobs.

R.I.P.

 

[ctiger2]

 

[Xenophage]

Whoops, I mean Ron Paul. I knew that didn't sound right.

What the hell are you talking about??

 

[jmdrake]

I'm disinclined to mention them both in the same breath, and always have been. Gates forced an existing and inferior corporate product to do something approximating the wonderful things that Job's machine would do, and used the fact that Jobs (like any entrepreneur worth his salt) was charging what the market would bear (actually somewhat less, but enough to cover the fact that he didn't have IBM's economies of scale) to try to establish himself a nice little monopoly.

But it was Jobs who created the revolution, not the would-be monopolist. And it is Jobs I praise, as I will never praise the other.

For the record Bill Gates stole the windowing operating system from Steve Jobs who stole it first from Xerox. Xerox invented that, the laser printer and the ethernet network. Yet most folks only think about them in terms of copiers.

 

[specsaregood]

Sent from your windows machine with the NSAkey.dll and seven ghost files for every file you write?
Rev9

Enjoy your backdoored apple products as well.
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/...o-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments