Steve Deace

I sent a PM to AquaBuddha asking him to email Deace. If we have any other people who can send a good "Christian case for Ron Paul" email, feel free.

Someone mentioned Chuck Baldwin a while back in this thread, I've heard him give really good speeches and I bet he could make a pretty good "Christian case for Ron Paul" if he were to call in. But how do we get that to happen I'm not sure.
 
Someone mentioned Chuck Baldwin a while back in this thread, I've heard him give really good speeches and I bet he could make a pretty good "Christian case for Ron Paul" if he were to call in. But how do we get that to happen I'm not sure.

Email him and request it. I'm sure he's a busy man, so it may not be possible. It's a great idea though.
 
He is distorting Ron Paul's position a little on abortion. Ron Paul defines life at conception, introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, would support a Constitutional amendment, etc. He doesn't want it to be a 10th amendment issue because life is a God given right. At least that is the way I understand Ron Paul's position.
Yes, he distorted it last night too. It would be nice if one of these nights someone called up to explain that Ron Paul is the ONLY one who haws attempted to do ANYTHING REAL WHATSOEVER for pro-life on the national level in the past 30 years! Virtually every Republican elected in that time frame has given really good speeches about pro-life. We've got a whole treasury of speeches that social conservatives can listen to for thousands upon thousands of hours. If they're satisfied with that, cool. But if they actually want babies to STOP GETTING ABORTED, like, in real life or something, then maybe someone besides Ron Paul should have voted for his bill to remove jurisdiction for Roe vs. Wade.

But no, apparently they just want the speech treasury.

They want empty promises and far-off dreams. No hurry, after all. Just a million abortions per year, what's a few decades. Maybe we can get a President who can appoint a pro-life judge or two, IF any retire, which I'll tell you if Bachmann or Santorum are President they will NOT, and then the next President can appoint another, and in 50 years they can finally hear a case and overturn Roe vs. Wade. Or we can go through a Constitutional Amendment process that will take at least a decade. Or they could pass Paul's bill, which would take a few days. If ANY of these clowns were serious about pro-life, if any were not just using it as a cynical political get-out-the-vote ploy on gullible Christians, they would do this. A few days later, states would be free to immediately ban abortion again. But then the politicians would lose that valuable get-out-the-vote ploy. No, it's in the best interest of "pro-life" politicians to make sure Roe vs. Wade is never, ever repealed. The "pro-lifer" pols will do everything they can to make sure abortion continues.

They'll keep that speech treasury alive and growing, though, and that's all that matters. Right?

And by the way, the President has no say whatsoever in a Constitutional amendment, so even if Paul had the "wrong" position on the amendment Deace wants it would be irrelevant. But in fact he has the "right" position. So where's the big disagreement on abortion between Steve Deace and Ron Paul? All in Steve Deace's imagination and nowhere else.
 
I emailed Deace a few weeks ago. It was a decently long letter about the Constitution.

They read three or so lines of it on air, completely out of context, and then tried to argue against those three or so lines. It was disgusting and not very Christian of them.
 
I emailed Deace a few weeks ago. It was a decently long letter about the Constitution, specifically the 10th amendment and family values.

They read three or so lines of it on air, completely out of context, and then tried to argue against those three or so lines. It was disgusting and not very Christian of them.
 
Yes, he got trolled last night, we all did.

Nah, I don't think so. He has had Tom on the show a few times in the past. Regardless, having an open conversation about Ron with a huge Iowa Christian audience listening is good no matter what way you look at it.
 
^^^ THIS.

Look guys, Paul may not get his endorsement, but I remember when Rand was running and Dobson endorsed Rand's competitor. Later, he found out the truth about Rand, changed his endorsement and derided the competitor. So, it CAN happen.

Let's see if we can connect the dots for Mr. Deace. Remember that most of us have been following Paul for a long time and have read all kinds of stuff he has written. Others have not, so they are probably going to need some help. It won't hurt to try. But, if you do it, please, please, be polite and respectful.

This. FTW.

The dobson 180 on Rand was incredible. And the trigger appears to have been letters from OB/GYNs that Dobson knew? Hmmm.. I wonder if a little more due-diligence into this Deace fellow could reveal a few close/personal contacts whom we could persuade to write on Ron's behalf? I haven't read through the thread but has Doug Wead made any inroads?

Dobson: GOP misled me on Paul

Christian conservative leader James Dobson withdrew his endorsement of Kentucky Senate candidate Trey Grayson Monday, switching his support to Rand Paul’s campaign and accusing “senior members of the GOP” of misleading him about Paul’s record on abortion.

Dobson said in an audio recording that he made an “embarrassing mistake” as a result of misunderstanding Paul’s position on abortion.


I was given misleading information about the candidacy of Dr. Rand Paul, who is running in the Republican Primary for the U.S. Senate. Senior members of the GOP told me Dr. Paul is pro-choice and that he opposes many conservative perspectives, so I endorsed his opponent,” Dobson explained. “But now I've received further information from OB/GYNs in Kentucky whom I trust, and from interviewing the candidate himself.”

Dobson’s reversal is an embarrassment for Grayson’s campaign, which touted the religious leader’s support last week and had planned to highlight an endorsement from Republican Rep. Hal Rogers Monday. Grayson, who serves as Kentucky’s secretary of state, has struggled in the polls against Paul, an ophthalmologist, with the primary just weeks away.

Now, Paul's campaign is featuring Dobson's support in a wave of radio ads across the state, on news and Christian radio stations. The campaign is also planning to put up a television spot with Dobson's endorsement starting Tuesday.

Paul spokesman David Adams said that Dobson’s change of heart came after the insurgent conservative’s campaign introduced him to social conservatives who had rallied behind Paul.
“We have made a lot of friends over the course of the campaign who know Rand,” Adams said. “

We were able to, when the initial statement came out from Dr. Dobson, get those friends to him and help him understand what the truth was, that he was being misled.”

Kentucky Right to Life, the state’s largest anti-abortion organization, has endorsed Grayson in the primary
 
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This guy will NEVER get it. He thinks that EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE MIDDLE EAST WANTS US ALL DEAD.

Here's what doesn't make sense:

Our country is no longer Christian because there's homosexuals.

Islam wants us all dead because we are Christian.

What?

What?

WHAT?!
That's why everyone needs to send him Michael Scheuer videos. I think he would respect Scheuer's experience and expertise....might get the gears turning.
 
That's why everyone needs to send him Michael Scheuer videos. I think he would respect Scheuer's experience and expertise....might get the gears turning.

Someone sent him an email telling him to look up Michael Scheuer and he read it on air. What did he say?

"Say my car is broken down.. This Scheuer is the mechanic, but what if I have the user manual?" then went on to say "If he was the head of the CIA Bin Laden unit, he must know more about this than me, but.." then went on to explain his BS theory of the entire Middle East conflict. I doubt this guy can be reasoned with on foreign policy.
 
So if we outlaw homosexuality things will magically be better? I don't see his point.

Ron Paul is for getting the government out of marriage...so the church will marry who they want.
If two homosexuals live together and call themselves married what do you want to do about it? Lock them up?

I don't get how this gets us anywhere.

He's just not getting it, I wish I was more articulate so I could convince him.
How does locking up homosexuals do any good? Does this guy even have a clue what goes on in America's prisons? Prison is a homosexuals smorgasbord.
 
I care because an endorsement from him would mean that Ron wins Iowa.

I respectfully disagree. I believe it's the other way around.

I think he endorsed Huckabee because he knew from the polls (straw poll and scientific) that he was going to win. The fact that Huckabee was a preacher and they were almost completely in sync on social issues was gravy.

You could say "Ron Paul wants a federal ban on homosexuality and will round up all people in turbans and send them to the gas chambers" and Deace would go "that's interesting." The only thing that will get him to endorse is "electability," i.e. Ron Paul being 20 points up in the polls and unassailable.

He would have long ago endorsed Santorum if he had any conviction in his beliefs. They're intellectual twins. The fact that he hasn't shows that Deace's true god and savior is Arbitron.
 
I respectfully disagree. I believe it's the other way around.

I think he endorsed Huckabee because he knew from the polls (straw poll and scientific) that he was going to win. The fact that Huckabee was a preacher and they were almost completely in sync on social issues was gravy.

You could say "Ron Paul wants a federal ban on homosexuality and will round up all people in turbans and send them to the gas chambers" and Deace would go "that's interesting." The only thing that will get him to endorse is "electability," i.e. Ron Paul being 20 points up in the polls and unassailable.

He would have long ago endorsed Santorum if he had any conviction in his beliefs. They're intellectual twins. The fact that he hasn't shows that Deace's true god and savior is Arbitron.

I didn't say the guy wasn't an opportunist. I just said that an endorsement from him would give us the bump to go over the top in Iowa. He has a big evangelical following.

Is he likely to endorse unless Ron is already guaranteed to win? Unlikely. Would it help if he did endorse? Absolutely.

Ron doesn't need much help at all to win, and Deace would provide enough.
 
Ugh. The last thing I heard this guy say was that the ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PUNISH PEOPLE.

Wow. He showed his true colors as a statist with that statement. He has proven he agrees with Obama, who wants to "tax the rich" and be "fair."

O ye of little faith.
 
I didn't say the guy wasn't an opportunist. I just said that an endorsement from him would give us the bump to go over the top in Iowa. He has a big evangelical following.

Is he likely to endorse unless Ron is already guaranteed to win? Unlikely. Would it help if he did endorse? Absolutely.

Ron doesn't need much help at all to win, and Deace would provide enough.

I wonder what kind of damage his rants can do to the momentum. What a slimeball. Just my opinion.
 
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