Steve Deace

What the hell. Is he literally complaining about the order of his points? This guy is a DOUCHEBAG.
 
bluesc said:
This thread has been here since yesterday. I had no idea he was like this until now. I care because an endorsement from him would mean that Ron wins Iowa.
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Shit.. your right! Sorry.

I do think if we all know he's not going to endorse RP then let the thread die and let more productive ones get to the top. But what do I know? Have fun talking about something thats not going to happen.
 
Don't kill our kids....but it's ok if we kill other people's kids in other countries that have posed no extreme threat to us. OK, I get it. Thanks Steve. You idiot.
 
Well, we now know what it takes to get his endorsement. Now lets write to him and explain what Ron Paul would do. Ron Paul really has said what he wants to hear, we just have to put it together.

Download his podcast tomorrow, go through the last 30 minutes of the show and answer his questions he had on the air in a well sourced detailed e-mail without being hateful. Ron Paul's answers are right and do go along with his views about defending itself/national security and abortion. He just doesn't know it yet.

Getting someone like Chuck Baldwin (as others have mentioned) MIGHT be decent.
 
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Segments like this depress me. If this is how a large percentage of social conservatives think; I believe we will have better luck converting Obama supporters.
 
Damn he's stupid. Has he not heard Ron say he would have the Congress declare war, go to war, and get it over with??What a freaking disingenuous moron. And he calls himself a Christian.

Steve, I'm sorry, but you're giving Christianity a bad name.

You've lost credibility.
 
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This guy... "What do we do!? What do we do!? What do we do!?" Didn't Paul introduce a bill to define life as beginning at conception?
 
I don't know whose more radical.....this guy or Islam. I'll take my chances with Islam.
 
Ron Paul has the answers to this guy's concern but he just doesn't comprehend it, makes it so frustrating to listen to.
 
The guy is a theocrat who doesn't understand that he's just as radical as those damn Muslims he hates so much. I'm sure Jesus would be proud. Feel the love.
 
Sent this to him:
Mr. Deace,

What do you do when the country is obviously ignoring our constitution and biblical values that abortion is morally and ethically wrong?
You use everything at your disposal to overturn it. And I truly believe this is Ron Paul's position. The quickest way to start defending the defenseless is by allowing the states to rule on abortion. He wants to start defending them AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. You seem to be angry about this, I'm really not sure why. However, Mr. Paul has said many times that he wants to push a "Sanctity of Life Act" to establish "personhood" at conception. You seem to be indicting Mr. Paul for telling you the truth. It's difficult to pass things like this. It's not an automatic occurrence. It's nice to hear Santorum and Bachmann say things like "I'll take care of abortion right away!" but how many republican presidents have said that? It's easier said than done. And where the blame SHOULD be placed on is the church. It is our responsibility to direct the moral current of our nation. Why isn't the church devoting all of its efforts to ending this?

And I see a bit of hypocrisy here when it comes to your position. You say all life is valuable. We are all made from a creator and all have a right to life. However, you seem perfectly fine with bombing the middle eastern nations and killing hundreds of thousands of children. Things we have done for many decades. These kinds of actions PUSH people to Islamic extremists, because they are the ones with the means to protect them. I understand the activity of killing men, women, and children took place in the old testament (so don't try and spin that on me), but these actions took place when there was an imminent threat and the Israelites were actively engaged in warfare. War is to be used as an absolute last resort. Your preemptive strike theory is not only illogical but unbiblical. I don't recall the bible saying that "Blessed be the Warmakers," the ones that strike without provocation or imminent provocation.

And you say that "ending the fed" is rather unimportant. I recall that one of the most heated moments in the New Testament was when Jesus attacked the money lenders for their corruption. And what is the fed?

What happens when they don't take our peace talks?
You weren't very clear on this but let me give you some details. 92% of Afghans have never heard of 9/11. And most have no idea that we landed on the moon. Most are starving and living in deplorable conditions. I think it would be very difficult for me to care about a nation 5,000 miles away if I was wondering where my next meal was coming from. But I digress, I don't think bombing them would make the case better, but I guess that's my opinion.

But if they don't respond to our peace talks, and want to attack us. The answer is pretty simple... we FIGHT BACK.

And you seem to be confusing the idea here with isolationism and non-interventionism. As many people do. In Ron Paul's policy we would not roll over and forget about the world. We keep our intelligence exchange between our allies strong, we keep our DEFENSE spending high. Ron Paul has said many times that he wants us to develop and use MORE submarines. Our submarines are easily the best in the world. They are nuclear capable, can hit targets hundreds of miles away, and can travel incredibly quickly.

Watch this video, and I don't see how you can be unsatisfied with this answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ATmUE8TCmjE

Non-interventionism means we stay out of other countries and keep our troops HERE. So we can defend US. Imagine if someone actually did attack our country right now. We would be almost defenseless. Our military is spread AROUND THE WORLD. You argue that keeping our military in hundreds of different countries makes us stronger? That makes no sense. What it DOES do is spread us so thinly that we couldn't respond to an imminent attack quickly enough if something DID happen.

I encourage you to keep asking questions, however I feel as though you get caught up in the semantics of our wording far too often. I'd love to call in and discuss this with you head-on.

Thanks,
Matthew
 
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Well, we now know what it takes to get his endorsement. Now lets write to him and explain what Ron Paul would do. Ron Paul really has said what he wants to hear, we just have to put it together.

Download his podcast tomorrow, go through the last 30 minutes of the show and answer his questions he had on the air in a well sourced detailed e-mail without being hateful. Ron Paul's answers are right and do go along with his views about defending itself/national security and abortion. He just doesn't know it yet.

Getting someone like Chuck Baldwin (as others have mentioned) MIGHT be decent.
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^^^ THIS.

Look guys, Paul may not get his endorsement, but I remember when Rand was running and Dobson endorsed Rand's competitor. Later, he found out the truth about Rand, changed his endorsement and derided the competitor. So, it CAN happen.

Let's see if we can connect the dots for Mr. Deace. Remember that most of us have been following Paul for a long time and have read all kinds of stuff he has written. Others have not, so they are probably going to need some help. It won't hurt to try. But, if you do it, please, please, be polite and respectful.
 
LibertyEagle said:
^^^ THIS.

Look guys, Paul may not get his endorsement, but I remember when Rand was running and Dobson endorsed Rand's competitor. Later, he found out the truth about Rand, changed his endorsement and derided the competitor. So, it CAN happen.

Let's see if we can connect the dots for Mr. Deace. Remember that most of us have been following Paul for a long time and have read all kinds of stuff he has written. Others have not, so they are probably going to need some help. It won't hurt to try. But, if you do it, please, please, be polite and respectful.
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I sent a PM to AquaBuddha asking him to email Deace. If we have any other people who can send a good "Christian case for Ron Paul" email, feel free.
 
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