"Stay home, Ron Paul people!"
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kathy88
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I see what you did there...
Liberty74
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Absolutely not true. There aren't enough hardcore Paul supporters.
Also, Romney is looking good as of today and would win easily. Union members are leaving Obama as well as blacks, women and Jews. That is the Democrat base. Heck, Romney has pulled ahead of Obama in Michigan. That is very telling.
Plus Obama has nothing going for him. The economic indicators all suck and aren't getting better in the next 5 months.
Seriously, some need to get off their high horse thinking Romney will lose without us. All the polling data and basic math says otherwise. And no, I'm not supporting or voting for Romney. No way in hell would I sell out - won't mention any names.
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Actually, you are dead wrong. Polling shows Romney and Obama are neck and neck and shifting the lead, and the 10 to 14% who poll 'undecided' with that choice don't like either of them, and DO like Ron Paul. I think it was CNN that did a compilation of their undecideds over multiple polls to get a sufficient sample and tried to figure out 'who we are'.
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Ya, Romney is the fall guy. The establishment is satisfied with the status quo. As the establishment thugs might say; "Why fix what ain't broken". Obama has given them more than they could have hoped for. Why shift gears when there is no need?
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As a natural born American Citizen, I'll stay home, once I have a country worthy of calling home(and not just in 'comparison').
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Gary Johnson FTW! Seriously, it matters not whether GJ is "perfect" or not. What matters is having anti Obamney votes counted.
The absolutely most despicably disgusting thing about voting is having your vote stolen electronically and handed to Romney the plastic wind up doll or Santorum or <gag> Newt Gingrich or any other chosen to be a part of the gross manipulation that is the electoral process in modern America.
In the beginning of this primary lots of us were banished to Hot Topics if we voiced the opinion (backed with lots of facts, BTW) that Ron was actually winning, but being cheated through blatant vote fraud. Thanks to a few, that's changing somewhat.
In any case, I firmly believe, without any reservations or doubts of any kind that despite the severe damage done by sham debates, media smear campaigns and the ridiculously obvious blackout effort, Ron was still the voter's choice throughout the straw poll process and into the Iowa Caucuses. I believe he won Iowa, but the vote count was simply altered through the vote and vote counting processes.
There is no (real) provision in my state to write Ron in. Since there is also no provision for me to receive a receipt of my vote choices and the process is 100% electronic with no paper trail, it wouldn't matter anyway.
Without addressing this situation, voting is not only a useless waste of time, it actually lets them use my vote as they see fit.
I'll pass.
In the beginning of this primary lots of us were banished to Hot Topics if we voiced the opinion (backed with lots of facts, BTW) that Ron was actually winning, but being cheated through blatant vote fraud. Thanks to a few, that's changing somewhat.
In any case, I firmly believe, without any reservations or doubts of any kind that despite the severe damage done by sham debates, media smear campaigns and the ridiculously obvious blackout effort, Ron was still the voter's choice throughout the straw poll process and into the Iowa Caucuses. I believe he won Iowa, but the vote count was simply altered through the vote and vote counting processes.
There is no (real) provision in my state to write Ron in. Since there is also no provision for me to receive a receipt of my vote choices and the process is 100% electronic with no paper trail, it wouldn't matter anyway.
Without addressing this situation, voting is not only a useless waste of time, it actually lets them use my vote as they see fit.
I'll pass.
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That seems like the obvious work-around. We will have to do that in all of our State/Local races in California, as they have limited our choice to just the top 2 in every race (except for President).
If only40% turned out at the polls, then they would have to do what? Take the popular vote. Or, as things seem to be now days, the NWO, can ignore this with the staging of Main Media to sell (or try to sell) the American people on their dictatorial scam of globalization with a no bars hold. There has to be an uprising where we stop pretending that we can make things better using the system because it is no longer "Our" system. We must remove ourselves from the process and take our government back.Imagine millions just camping on DC and state capitols refusing to work or spend money. Imagine people surrounding homes of the 535 representatives with bull horns saying give yourselves up, we the citizens arrest you for acts of treason. Imagine if millions closed their bank accounts and cut up their credit cards or better yet just burned those debt notes in the street. If we really want our country back we have to wake up to the fact that it cannot happen from within. I mean, come on.....what kind of future do we have here anyhow? Policed, surveillance up you butt to hoot, threat of arrests with unlimited detentions for being Americans who love liberty and hope for peace and prosperity. Drastic measures require drastic efforts. As drastic and insane as it sounds, we will soon have no dollar to buy and sell with anyhow. Instead we look forward to being chipped!! Really, what else do we have to loose? I don't know about you but I like my home and being forced to live in sustainable housing for the sake of saving our environment is just preposterous and will not reverse our pollution problems. It will just make it easier to monitor your every move. I say "STRIKE AS A NATION FOR LIBERTY, JUSTICE AND WORLD PEACE"
Exactly. If Romney wins, they'll rightfully conclude that they don't need the Ron Paul supporters. Romney needs to lose by the same percentage that the LP gains.
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On pres we can get Ron as a certified write in candidate just by, I think it's a dozen of us, filing as electors. That could be as late as next fall, as I recall.
I actually think it was MSNBC that did it. I don't know if you remember but what was funny was that they were trying to debate on who WE hated more Obama or Romney lol. If Dr. Paul could use that 10-14% to get a 3rd party that would be HUGE for our country and or political system.
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Aren't you guys from Missouri?
Number of people in this thread who are aware that this "None of the above" stupidity only exists in a single state (Nevada) = zero
Have you guys ever voted in your life? You've never noticed that "None of the above" is never there (unless you live in Nevada and even in that case only on some ballots)?
Also, how on earth is this related to Ron Paul? Are we supposed to believe that Ron Paul supporters confronted with the absence of the "none of the above" box will then vote for Romney instead of writing-in or just not voting on the presidential race? Well, if so, that bodes really well for Romney in the 49 states in which this option has never existed!
This "none of the above" thingie is bizarre and it's about time NV gets rid of it. Don't like any of the candidates? Leave the ballot blank.
