Standing at the Edge of the Iran War Cliff

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by Ron Paul
Apr 14, 2025


Millions of people around the world were at the edge of their seats over the weekend, waiting to hear whether Trump special envoy Steve Witkoff’s indirect talks with the Iranian foreign minister would ratchet down tensions or would break down and bring on a major Middle East war.

If it seems bizarre that the outcome of a meeting between a US president’s designated negotiator and a foreign government minister could determine whether we plunge into possibly our biggest war since World War II, that’s because it is bizarre. In fact, this is an excellent example of why our Founders were so determined to keep warmaking authority out of the Executive Branch of government. No one person – much less his aide – should have the power to take this country to war.

That is why the Constitution places the authority to go to war firmly and exclusively in the hands of the representatives of the people: the US Congress. After all, it is the US people who will be expected to fight the wars and to pay for the wars and to bear the burden of the outcome of the wars. When that incredible power is placed in the hands of one individual – even if that individual is elected – the temptation to use it is far too great. Our Founders recognized this weakness in the system they were rebelling against – the British monarchy – so they wisely corrected it when they drafted our Constitution.

Unless the US is under direct attack or is facing imminent direct attack, the Constitution requires Congress to deliberate, discuss, and decide whether a conflict or potential conflict is worth bringing the weight of the US military to bear. They wanted it harder, not easier, to take us to war.

When wars can be started by presidents with no authority granted by Congress, the results can be the kinds of endless military engagements with ever-shifting, unachievable objectives such as we’ve seen in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We are currently seeing another such endless conflict brewing with President Trump’s decision to start bombing Yemen last month. The stated objectives– to end Houthi interference with Israeli Red Sea shipping – are not being achieved so, as usually happens, the bombing expands and creates more death and destruction for the civilian population. In the last week or so, US bombs have struck the water supply facilities for 50,000 civilians and have apparently blown up a civilian tribal gathering.

Starting a war with Iran was the furthest thing from the minds of American voters last November, and certainly those who voted for Donald Trump were at least partly motivated by his promise to end current wars and start no new wars. However, there is a strange logic that to fulfill the promise of no new wars, the US must saber rattle around the world to intimidate others from crossing the White House. This is what the recycled phrase “peace through strength” seems to have come to mean. But the real strength that it takes to make and keep peace is the strength to just walk away. It is the strength to stop meddling in conflicts that have nothing to do with the United States.

That is where Congress comes in. Except they are not coming in. They are nowhere to be found. And that is not a good thing.



 
Nothing good on teevee, all I keep seeing over and over and over again is Trump making speeches that Iran will not have nuclear weapons! Seems he's pushing that agenda hard, even though the SD said there are none-to-be-found.
 
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There you go again quoting that old, senile, anti-American globalist shill. Don’t you know better by now? Hell, Swordy’s been warning us about this guy for some time now. Get with the program.
 
President Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, and Pete Hegseth stepped in to HALT an Israeli airstrike on Iranian nuclear sites in favor of negotions, per NYT
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︀︀Holy crap. If this is true, Trump and his cabinet just stopped World War 3.

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https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1912677985129243094

 
They finally ousted our puppet, the Shah, who we installed after overthrowing their government in 1953 via Operation Ajax.
Irrelevant.
Nor was it organic, it was manipulated by outside powers just as much as the 1953 change.
 
One would almost think they considered Operation Ajax an act of war. One would almost think he would consider it an act of war if Iran did it to us, too.
It doesn't matter who started the war.
There is a war against us.
 
It doesn't matter to you who started the war, because you're not Christian enough to be motivated to negotiate a peace.
Trump is trying to negotiate a peace, he tried last time too, but being muslim terrorists they are not interested.
Obama didn't negotiate a peace, he gave aid and comfort to the enemy without one.
 
Who?

The US, that's who.

Do you really think God approves of you shilling for the CIA?
Right, the Communists had NOTHING to do with it, RIGHT.

The islamist terrorists turned on them afterwards, but they continued to align with the Soviets.

In the fall of 1978, massive waves of unrest and strikes—led largely by Iran’s oil workers—swept that country. By early 1979, the tyrannical government of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was pushed from power. The Revolution of February 1979 was the work of a wide range of class and social forces, united on a program of democracy and anti-imperialism. Within a short time, the Shi’ite religious fundamentalist groups around Ayatollah Khomeini that controlled the new government of the Islamic Republic, however, moved against the secular left revolutionary forces, particularly the Tudeh Party of Iran. By the early years of the 1980s, it was clear that the revolution had been betrayed. What follows are excerpts from articles printed in the Daily World, predecessor of People’s World, that cover developments in Iran as they happened. Most are written by Tom Foley, the Daily World’s chief correspondent on Iran for most of those years. For a perspective on Iran today, see People’s World’s interview with Mohammad Omidvar, a member of the political bureau of the Tudeh Party.
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https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/as-it-happened-the-promise-and-the-betrayal-of-irans-1979-revolution/
 
Trump is trying to negotiate a peace

...by throwing out an existing agreement.

He blamed an "assassination attempt" clearly enabled by the US Secret Service on Iran. Or, rather, he tried to. Nobody bought that obvious bullshit but you. And nobody's buying the obvious bullshit that he's one bit more interested in peace with Iran than Dubya and the Neocons except you.
 
...by throwing out an existing agreement.

He blamed an "assassination attempt" clearly enabled by the US Secret Service on Iran. Or, rather, he tried to. Nobody bought that obvious bullshit but you. And nobody's buying the obvious bullshit that he's one bit more interested in peace with Iran than Dubya and the Neocons except you.
The existing agreement was not a peace deal, it was treason by Obama that gave them everything and us nothing without even ending the war.
 
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