Spread out!

[quizbe]

At a local rally, it felt like the group was being disrespectful and obnoxiously loud inside of a building, so I promoted the doctor outside. I ended up talking to 3 people at length and informed them of Dr. Paul as well as additional random supporters passing by.

In my opinion, large groups are intimidating and wild to those not involved. They may grab attention initially for a few moments to those that are passing by, but will likely be forgotten once they are out of sight. I feel it would be much more inviting if we were to spread out instead of attaching to each other. It's much harder to disregard passionate individuals than an annoying mob. Are you more likely to give money to a group of bums, or one by himself?

Instead of 50 Ron Paul supporters on a single overpass(I've been part of one of these), there should be a few people on every overpass for miles! Or can you imagine a Ron Paul supporter on each corner of downtown San Francisco during a work day? For 12 blocks? Sooner or later EVERYONE will be curious and many are going to be asking questions. Keep in mind these people are going into offices with coworkers. The supporters would not be disruptive in any way, but inviting and courteous.

Instead of people thinking "Oh the Ron Paul people are over there." they would think "The Ron Paul people are everywhere!" (they are)

I posted this before and it wasn't responded to. Let me know if you agree or not, I won't push this anymore if not. Thanks!

 

[kathy88]

Totally agree! Great post!

 

[quizbe]

Totally agree! Great post!

Thanks!

Also, the word Revolution is scary. "Give us back our Constitution" signs should be placed next to Ron Paul Revolution signs whenever possible. It states plainly what we want and it sounds completely reasonable in peoples' heads. I'm not sure why these are not much more popular.

I'm honestly curious about this. Do "End Fiat Money" or "End the Fed" type signs gather support? I don't see how they work for people who don't already know how corrupt the system is.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Agreed! I also want to add that bringing a female supporter with you, or having her canvass somewhere around you (so that you can point her out) to answer questions works wonders with women who may feel intimidated to go up to a 6'4 guy and ask him questions, especially if they are in a group (such as with her husband and kids). We could also relate more to women's issues (I am assuming here), directly involved with it ourselves.

Just try being engaging to everyone that comes your way, not overbearing or condescending. Please, if you see supporters being what you think is obnoxious or disrespectful, pull them aside and tell them so, and what they can do better. In the end you'd be doing the movement, as well as them, a favor (heck, they might not even know they're being loud or giving the wrong impression to passerbys).

 

[quizbe]

Agreed! I also want to add that bringing a female supporter with you, or having her canvass somewhere around you (so that you can point her out) to answer questions works wonders with women who may feel intimidated to go up to a 6'4 guy and ask him questions, especially if they are in a group (such as with her husband and kids). We could also relate more to women's issues (I am assuming here), directly involved with it ourselves.

Just try being engaging to everyone that comes your way, not overbearing or condescending. Please, if you see supporters being what you think is obnoxious or disrespectful, pull them aside and tell them so, and what they can do better. In the end you'd be doing the movement, as well as them, a favor (heck, they might not even know they're being loud or giving the wrong impression to passerbys).

Completely agree. The most knowledgeable and "people-person" supporters should individually convert as many as possible. Think how hard it is for curious people to approach a loud group. The message needs to spread, not be a members only club.

 

[quizbe]

PLEASE don't be like a loud and intimidating Occupy group! Everyone I know, especially the people in my office, hate them and are put off by any message they are trying to convey.

Be kind, courteous, inviting and talkative! Spreading the message is more important than shouting it!

 

[cheapseats]

In my opinion, large groups are intimidating and wild to those not involved.

This is true.

Also, the word Revolution is scary.

This is true.

"Give us back our Constitution" signs should be placed next to Ron Paul Revolution signs whenever possible. It states plainly what we want and it sounds completely reasonable in peoples' heads. I'm not sure why these are not much more popular.

If these signs are already made, then done is done. No point closing barn doors where horses are already out. But if they are NOT made, or if signs are steadily BEING made, I gotta say that GIVE US BACK OUR CONSTITUTION strikes me as the plaintive cry of VICTIMS who will wait to see whether or not the Meanies DO "give back" our Constitution.

When I am with someone prefaces their food/beverage order with CAN I HAVE...?, it is all I can do to not blurt out: THE WAITRESS IS NOT YOUR MOTHER! OF COURSE YOU CAN HAVE IT! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!

Channeling Brad Pitt in Troy, NOT to suggest this is the correct TEXT but that it is the correct ATTITUDE:

LIBERTY
Take it! It's YOURS!​

I'm honestly curious about this. Do "End Fiat Money" or "End the Fed" type signs gather support? I don't see how they work for people who don't already know how corrupt the system is.

MANY MANY MANY people know good and well that something is "ROTTEN IN THE STATE OF DENMARK" without being able to articulate it or even pinpoint it. How DOES one pinpoint RAMPANT CORRUPTION & INSTITUTIONALIZED GRAFT?

In all probability (ever playing the odds), people who are not familiar with FED and FIAT MONEY will not LEARN about them between now and November. SEEING the words is fine, better than fine. The more FED and FIAT MONEY are seen in connection with Official Tomfoolery, the better. But don't LEAD with "obscure" stuff.

Y'know what Reg'lar people GET? They GET IT when I ask them: WOULD YOU KEEP PLAYING MONOPOLY WITH A "BANKER" WHO KEEPS SCISSORS, COLORED PAPER & BLACK SHARPIE IN HIS LAP, WHIPPING UP MONEY & PROPERTIES/INVESTMENTS AT WILL?

(Libertines and Hardright are FAILING MISERABLY to admit the obvious: WALL STREET/MARKET MANIPULATION IS, IN POINT OF FACT, CULPRIT OF CULPRITS IN OUR FISCAL & MONETARY SUICIDE BY GLUTTONY.)

 

[cheapseats]

...bringing a female supporter with you...

...is super good advice.

If the Sexists can pretend to RESPECT women and the Misogynists can pretend to LIKE them, if both can pretend to be INTERESTED in Women's Issues, it would help Ron Paul a LOT.

The (some might say faux) HE-MEN who never tire of pointing to Womens' superficiality, neediness, weakness, irrationality and general inferiority must concede that all those differences/failings DO establish some separate issues.

 

[cheapseats]

PLEASE don't be like a loud and intimidating Occupy group!

got collectivist judgment, a.k.a. prejudice?

Everyone I know, especially the people in my office, hate them and are put off by any message they are trying to convey.

In other words, the people who HAVE jobs are off-put by those who HAVE NOT jobs?

Occupy Wall Streeters are MUCH more educable than lifelong Democrats, know THAT.

Be kind, courteous, inviting and talkative! Spreading the message is more important than shouting it!

You are obviously kind, polite, concerned, compassionate, respectful...all that good stuff...therefore a PERFECT person to put on the spot with this question:

Do you believe there exists a point at which "Polite & Respectful" is a FAILED policy?

Do you believe there is ever a point at which characteristically mild, reasonable, peaceable people must LEAVE THEIR COMFORT ZONE, QUIT PUSSY FOOTING AROUND, & EFFIN' DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHATEVER IT TAKES? Or are you with PEACE AT ANY PRICE folk, who believe that Love will eventually conquer all and Good will prevail, and ours is but to SUCK IT UP (with a good attitude) until that elusive day?

 

[ggeezz]

PLEASE don't be like a loud and intimidating Occupy group! Everyone I know, especially the people in my office, hate them and are put off by any message they are trying to convey.

Be kind, courteous, inviting and talkative! Spreading the message is more important than shouting it!

Better yet, read How to Win Friends and Influence People.

 

[osan]

PLEASE don't be like a loud and intimidating Occupy group! Everyone I know, especially the people in my office, hate them and are put off by any message they are trying to convey.

Be kind, courteous, inviting and talkative! Spreading the message is more important than shouting it!

And yet it was obstreperous, annoying, obnoxious behavior that got the progressive/socialist/communist/collectivist/authoritarian-bootlicking contingent where it is today.

I object to the hypocrisy of it - that it worked for them but would fail for us.

But yes, always be superior persons in intellect, manners, and approach. The vile progressive/parasite brigade appear to be constitutionally incapable of any of it.

 

[PolicyReader]

At a local rally, it felt like the group was being disrespectful and obnoxiously loud inside of a building, so I promoted the doctor outside. I ended up talking to 3 people at length and informed them of Dr. Paul as well as additional random supporters passing by.

In my opinion, large groups are intimidating and wild to those not involved. They may grab attention initially for a few moments to those that are passing by, but will likely be forgotten once they are out of sight. I feel it would be much more inviting if we were to spread out instead of attaching to each other. It's much harder to disregard passionate individuals than an annoying mob. Are you more likely to give money to a group of bums, or one by himself?

Instead of 50 Ron Paul supporters on a single overpass(I've been part of one of these), there should be a few people on every overpass for miles! Or can you imagine a Ron Paul supporter on each corner of downtown San Francisco during a work day? For 12 blocks? Sooner or later EVERYONE will be curious and many are going to be asking questions. Keep in mind these people are going into offices with coworkers. The supporters would not be disruptive in any way, but inviting and courteous.

Instead of people thinking "Oh the Ron Paul people are over there." they would think "The Ron Paul people are everywhere!" (they are)

I posted this before and it wasn't responded to. Let me know if you agree or not, I won't push this anymore if not. Thanks!

Good post I quite agree.

 

[Darguth]

Just to add my own small bit of personal experience, I attended a small rally at the local St. Patrick's Day parade here in New Orleans.

We had only about 4 or so people there because a lot of people we thought were going to show up didn't and some that did had to leave early. Fortunately, I think this turned out to be a good thing.

A group of a half-dozen or less represents a group, you're not just some lone nutjob on the corner. However, it also is not so intimidating in size that it scares away people. A small group is much more approachable.

Also, whenever you meet a new supporter (especially a "soft" supporter that just walked up to you to say, "Hey, I like Ron Paul!") LISTEN TO THEM FIRST. Listen to why they like Ron Paul, what their frustrations and concerns are, etc. Don't jump into trying to explain the local election process in excruciating detail. That comes after you've snagged their interest and made them feel like part of the team. People don't like being talked at...but they do like being informed. You need to give them the information in such a way that they feel they are getting informed about something they care about; not like a salesmen is trying to slip something by them.

Our small rally that afternoon was the most effective GOTV effort I've seen in my several months with the grassroots campaign here in Louisiana. And it was effective because we were a small group of polite and enthusiastic supporters that listened to people and invited them to join in our support of Ron Paul.

 

[Ivash]

And yet it was obstreperous, annoying, obnoxious behavior that got the progressive/socialist/communist/collectivist/authoritarian-bootlicking contingent where it is today.

I object to the hypocrisy of it - that it worked for them but would fail for us.

But yes, always be superior persons in intellect, manners, and approach. The vile progressive/parasite brigade appear to be constitutionally incapable of any of it.

It didn't 'work' for the Occupy Movement though. They are a spent force, with donations, active (compared to passive) support, and relevance waning. You rarely read an article about it anymore, much less hear people talking about it on the sidewalk.

What's worse is that they didn't get any of their objections accomplished.

 

[parocks]

At a local rally, it felt like the group was being disrespectful and obnoxiously loud inside of a building, so I promoted the doctor outside. I ended up talking to 3 people at length and informed them of Dr. Paul as well as additional random supporters passing by.

In my opinion, large groups are intimidating and wild to those not involved. They may grab attention initially for a few moments to those that are passing by, but will likely be forgotten once they are out of sight. I feel it would be much more inviting if we were to spread out instead of attaching to each other. It's much harder to disregard passionate individuals than an annoying mob. Are you more likely to give money to a group of bums, or one by himself?

Instead of 50 Ron Paul supporters on a single overpass(I've been part of one of these), there should be a few people on every overpass for miles! Or can you imagine a Ron Paul supporter on each corner of downtown San Francisco during a work day? For 12 blocks? Sooner or later EVERYONE will be curious and many are going to be asking questions. Keep in mind these people are going into offices with coworkers. The supporters would not be disruptive in any way, but inviting and courteous.

Instead of people thinking "Oh the Ron Paul people are over there." they would think "The Ron Paul people are everywhere!" (they are)

I posted this before and it wasn't responded to. Let me know if you agree or not, I won't push this anymore if not. Thanks!

Yes, our problem is that not enough Ron Paul supporters are on overpasses. Or, the Ron Paul supporters on overpasses are not well spaced enough. </s>

Forget about doing something that will get our supporters to the polls, focus on the spacing of the Ron Paul supporters on the overpasses. That's how people make their voting decisions. I have no idea how Romney is winning and Paul is not, Romney has no large groups of supporters, or smaller groups, well spaced, on overpasses. Yet, he somehow wins. And somehow Santorum wins as well, without supporters on overpasses. Don't let anyone tell you that supporters on overpasses is weird or stupid. </s>

 

[cheapseats]

Yes, our problem is that not enough Ron Paul supporters are on overpasses. Or, the Ron Paul supporters on overpasses are not well spaced enough. </s>

Forget about doing something that will get our supporters to the polls, focus on the spacing of the Ron Paul supporters on the overpasses. That's how people make their voting decisions. I have no idea how Romney is winning and Paul is not, Romney has no large groups of supporters, or smaller groups, well spaced, on overpasses. Yet, he somehow wins. And somehow Santorum wins as well, without supporters on overpasses. Don't let anyone tell you that supporters on overpasses is weird or stupid. </s>

You disregard the abiding (and killer) reality that #MainstreamMedia does not COVER Ron Paul. ALL embedded Print coverage, GONE-as-in-YANKED. TV? Puh-leez.

If Undecided and Unclear and Ambivalent and Embittered are to realize that Ron Paul is not only STILL IN the race, but that he has meaningful-and-growing support, HOW would they realize that?

 

[J_White]

totally agree !
make small groups of 2-4 individuals when talking to people in public places like fairs, malls etc.
always be polite and focus on issues, try to let people see how the MSM fools them, again and again.

 

[quizbe]

I'm glad most of you agree. Dr. Paul wants the idea to spread!

Yes, our problem is that not enough Ron Paul supporters are on overpasses. Or, the Ron Paul supporters on overpasses are not well spaced enough. </s>

Forget about doing something that will get our supporters to the polls, focus on the spacing of the Ron Paul supporters on the overpasses. That's how people make their voting decisions. I have no idea how Romney is winning and Paul is not, Romney has no large groups of supporters, or smaller groups, well spaced, on overpasses. Yet, he somehow wins. And somehow Santorum wins as well, without supporters on overpasses. Don't let anyone tell you that supporters on overpasses is weird or stupid. </s>

can't believe you typed all that out

 

[parocks]

I'm glad most of you agree. Dr. Paul wants the idea to spread!





can't believe you typed all that out

yer new. the more words, the funnier

 

[unknown]

Instead of 50 Ron Paul supporters on a single overpass(I've been part of one of these), there should be a few people on every overpass for miles! Or can you imagine a Ron Paul supporter on each corner of downtown San Francisco during a work day? For 12 blocks?

Now youre using your brains.