just because I don't share everybody's hatred against them doesn't mean I work for them, I'm not even defending them, I'm defending this particular list as I don't see what's inaccurate about it.
SPLC releases new list of patriot extremist groups by state
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just because I don't share everybody's hatred against them doesn't mean I work for them, I'm not even defending them, I'm defending this particular list as I don't see what's inaccurate about it.
Ok good. Then we have nothing to argue about.
But what's the problem if the list isn't a problem????
I wish people would say militia groups and border watch organizations are "de facto government". I am confused, you say you are not antigovernment and actually pro-government, but then you are upset when somebody works with the government.........?
just for a show of hands, how many of you, prior to seeing this list, even heard of GOOOH, 3 percenter, PatriotSpace, Rule of Law radio?
I haven't, and I thank them very much for telling me about it now. Where else could I have learned of these names if I wanted to?
I haven't, and I thank them very much for telling me about it now. Where else could I have learned of these names if I wanted to?
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They also hate the notorious extremist Gary Franchi. 
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The FEMA Fabulist
Gary Franchi, 32
Gary Franchi is one of the leading promoters of a resurgent Patriot conspiracy theory that alleges the government is creating concentration camps for U.S. citizens. In 2009, he produced "Camp FEMA: American Lockdown," a video contending that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is behind the camps that could be used to house political dissenters.
The camps "are on existing military bases now," he said in a February webinar posted on his magazine's website. "It's not a big secret."
He claims that other structures could be converted into camps, including former airport hangars, vacant corporate office buildings, and closed-down prisons. "Your local church may have already signed a deal with the devil," he wrote.
Proponents of non-violence may find themselves at a disadvantage when the government shows up to ferry them to the camps, Franchi said. "If you believe in the 2nd amendment, if you believe in the right to self-defense, then perhaps you will have a different decision to make than the person that will let them kick your door in and drag you out."
Franchi also serves as national director of RestoreTheRepublic.com, whose preoccupations include eliminating the Federal Reserve and the IRS, making it illegal to implant microchips in people (another popular Patriot conspiracy theory that dates back to the 1990s), and ending globalization because it will supposedly lead to one-world government. Franchi asserts the site is attracting nearly 1,000 new members monthly.
He also runs the Patriot social networking site RestoreTheRepublic.net, hosts the weekly "Reality Report" on Freedom.TV, and serves as managing editor of Republic Magazine. In addition, he's now a regular speaker at Patriot conferences, offering a familiar diet of fears of globalist plotters. "There is a global elite structure of bankers and organizations that are pulling the strings of the parties, pulling the strings of the president, the speaker of the House," he said in the webinar.
Though such theories are often promoted by groups that defame Jews, Franchi told theIntelligence Report that his Restore The Republic does not advocate anti-Semitism or racism. "Restore The Republic is not antigovernment in any way, shape or form," he added. "We're pro-Constitution and anti-corruption."
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The FEMA Fabulist
Gary Franchi, 32
Gary Franchi is one of the leading promoters of a resurgent Patriot conspiracy theory that alleges the government is creating concentration camps for U.S. citizens. In 2009, he produced "Camp FEMA: American Lockdown," a video contending that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is behind the camps that could be used to house political dissenters.
The camps "are on existing military bases now," he said in a February webinar posted on his magazine's website. "It's not a big secret."
He claims that other structures could be converted into camps, including former airport hangars, vacant corporate office buildings, and closed-down prisons. "Your local church may have already signed a deal with the devil," he wrote.
Proponents of non-violence may find themselves at a disadvantage when the government shows up to ferry them to the camps, Franchi said. "If you believe in the 2nd amendment, if you believe in the right to self-defense, then perhaps you will have a different decision to make than the person that will let them kick your door in and drag you out."
Franchi also serves as national director of RestoreTheRepublic.com, whose preoccupations include eliminating the Federal Reserve and the IRS, making it illegal to implant microchips in people (another popular Patriot conspiracy theory that dates back to the 1990s), and ending globalization because it will supposedly lead to one-world government. Franchi asserts the site is attracting nearly 1,000 new members monthly.
He also runs the Patriot social networking site RestoreTheRepublic.net, hosts the weekly "Reality Report" on Freedom.TV, and serves as managing editor of Republic Magazine. In addition, he's now a regular speaker at Patriot conferences, offering a familiar diet of fears of globalist plotters. "There is a global elite structure of bankers and organizations that are pulling the strings of the parties, pulling the strings of the president, the speaker of the House," he said in the webinar.
Though such theories are often promoted by groups that defame Jews, Franchi told theIntelligence Report that his Restore The Republic does not advocate anti-Semitism or racism. "Restore The Republic is not antigovernment in any way, shape or form," he added. "We're pro-Constitution and anti-corruption."
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Yes they did. They were posting them as part of the 'patriot' movement. They constantly refer to the 'patriot' movement as racist, violent and extremists. They may include a disclaimer to legally cover their backs, but if you just spend 10 mins explorinng that site you'll know exactly what I mean.
Why are you trying to defend this statist society so much?
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Hands.
I am also a member of militia and resistance forums.
And was loosely part of the Patriot Movement,, years back.
I remember that last round of witch hunts,, several did not survive,, most went underground.
Here's a tip for anybody who wants to fuck with SPLC, this is completely legal, if you deviate and do something stupid, I can't help you and you deserve what you get.
Think of a funny name for your parody joke group, make a website, and write some crackpot articles. Under Poe's law, unless you show a wink or disclaim that your site is a joke, it's impossible for them (or even your peers) to tell if you are serious. So SPLC will list you, or if they don't, they'll spend hours trying to find out if you're for real. Seriously though, how many of you can think of a better name than "Public Minister of Justice for the Central Assemblies Union of the Several States of the Union of the States of the United States of America.”
If they list you, you can publish on here, or your site "HAHA, SPLC's shoddy research took me for real!" Keep in mind, you might fool some fellow patriots too, and if you tell your members and readers that you're baiting somebody like SPLC, chances are one of them will slip up, because they're working for them. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these groups on the list ARE either jokes or fake government fronts, many are literally internet sites with no real life meeting or activity.
There's only 2 likely outcomes, SPLC changes there tactics and gets serious about researching groups, or you waste their time and have fun. There's nothing illegal about making prank websites, just don't con anybody's money or advocate anybody to do anything stupid.
Think of a funny name for your parody joke group, make a website, and write some crackpot articles. Under Poe's law, unless you show a wink or disclaim that your site is a joke, it's impossible for them (or even your peers) to tell if you are serious. So SPLC will list you, or if they don't, they'll spend hours trying to find out if you're for real. Seriously though, how many of you can think of a better name than "Public Minister of Justice for the Central Assemblies Union of the Several States of the Union of the States of the United States of America.”
If they list you, you can publish on here, or your site "HAHA, SPLC's shoddy research took me for real!" Keep in mind, you might fool some fellow patriots too, and if you tell your members and readers that you're baiting somebody like SPLC, chances are one of them will slip up, because they're working for them. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these groups on the list ARE either jokes or fake government fronts, many are literally internet sites with no real life meeting or activity.
There's only 2 likely outcomes, SPLC changes there tactics and gets serious about researching groups, or you waste their time and have fun. There's nothing illegal about making prank websites, just don't con anybody's money or advocate anybody to do anything stupid.
They also hate the notorious extremist Gary Franchi.
Gary Franchi isn't dangerous, he doesn't do anything dangerous himself, he's just an opportunist making money off people.
He's no different than Russell of the Kony campaign or Alex Jones or Curt of super brochures. As long as you don't take legal or tax advice from these people, they won't get you in any real trouble, they just want your money at worst.
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The issue is that executive officers of the SPLC sit on the DHS advisory panel on homeland security, and the views of the SPLC are reflected in government policy, and more specifically, the SPLC then gets government contracts to conduct training of DHS personnel, further placing the views of the SPLC into government policy.
I would think that any person who believes in civil rights would have an issue with the views of a privte organization being made into governmnetal policy - wouldn't it be great if my enemies were also enemies of the government?
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I really think onlyrp is just trolling for lulz.
No one could really be that fucking stupid.
how is that not a self fulfilling prophecy for both sides? You know or claim that your enemies are working for the government and then you complain when they call you antigovernment. Wouldn't you want to be in their shoes and be feared, hated, rather than be on the complaining side?
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I miss LPG, this new crop just doesn't have the flair or staying power.
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Or, how about just being left alone? I don't give a rat's ass what they are anybody else thinks - when they (or anybody else) have the ability to take action, then it matters.
Do you think they're pre-emptive? Or reactionary?
luckily shemm didn't transcribe their formatting mistakes.
"Goodyear" is a city/county, not a group.
And the full name of "Riders United for a Sovereign America, Corp." should be in bold.
"Freedom Yell" is a group name, not city.
So yeah, either they're all over the place on their poor formatting, or they're listing cities as patriot groups, LMAO.
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America First Party of Missouri Imperial blood of patriots
Columbia
is not one group name, it's 2. They meant
America First Party of Missouri, in Imperial
Blood of Patriots in Columbia
"Goodyear" is a city/county, not a group.
And the full name of "Riders United for a Sovereign America, Corp." should be in bold.
"Freedom Yell" is a group name, not city.
So yeah, either they're all over the place on their poor formatting, or they're listing cities as patriot groups, LMAO.
adding :
America First Party of Missouri Imperial blood of patriots
Columbia
is not one group name, it's 2. They meant
America First Party of Missouri, in Imperial
Blood of Patriots in Columbia
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For what it's worth, this was listed too. See? They're not all white racists!
http://www.themoorishsciencetempleofamerica.org/
add : does this look like a patriot or militia group to you?
http://www.cultural-freedom.com/store.html (they only got dragged in because they are sovereign citizens who offer UCC tax evasion advice)
http://www.themoorishsciencetempleofamerica.org/
add : does this look like a patriot or militia group to you?
http://www.cultural-freedom.com/store.html (they only got dragged in because they are sovereign citizens who offer UCC tax evasion advice)
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They have been trying to link ALL Patriot Groups or any groups they don't "like" to racist or violent groups in an attempt to smear them.
They did this with the MIAC Report.
It has been their method of operation for years.
They attempted to do it to militias as well.
And despite total Fail like this,
They are still considered credibly by TPTB.
The Patriot Movement and the Militia are not all a bunch of ignorant white rednecks.
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