Speaker Johnson's next move: Money for Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan and more surveillance

[69360]

There are a number of Americans that dont want a forever war and they arent just MAGA.

Yes that is me.

But I know that nobody cares anymore. We just saw congressmen waving a foriegn flag on the house floor and despite what I think of Trump, tweeting die to the concept of making america great again.

It's over we lost.

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1781764154493153306

 

[acptulsa]

It's over we lost.

The black pills are flowing like wine this morning.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Rep Gerald Connolly (D)
The Clown Gerald said that Ukrainian, Russian Borders is our borders because Ukraine needs FREEDOM Loving....
Because Russia is a dictatorship country.

Yet the US govt has no problem working the Saudis....
Another Dictatorship...

“Some say, well, we have to deal with our border first.

The Ukrainian Russian border is OUR border!"

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Whats in the US aid bill for Israel,Ukraine, Taiwan?
They are sending Ukraine more of the M1 Abrams tanks despite the certain destruction of them.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782137056061215219

 

[acptulsa]

There was money for the U.S. border in that pork bill.

Money to pay people to illegally cross it.

 

[Cleaner44]

The government in DC doesn't represent American citizens and they don't care that we know it.

 

[PAF]

There was money for the U.S. border in that pork bill.

Money to pay people to illegally cross it.

^^^^

And there are still stoopid people who actually believe that Walls and Police State solutions are going to solve it.

Catholic Charities, Jewish Family Council, [and] the Lutherans [which] are involved. What they do is they go to the border and take these asylum seekers from the Department of Homeland Security, [DHS]. They’re paid by DHS to provide aid. So there’s an incentive to bring in more people.

Catholic Charities USA is just one of a host of NGOs, a network funded by tax dollars and other donors, that funnels and settles illegal immigrants in the country. Of course, the UN also has its tentacles in, brazenly giving out debit cards loaded with hundreds of pesos a month to support the illegals along their march to the border, all while being funded by, you guessed it, U.S. taxpayers. We’re paying for our own demise.

At the same time, we as a country are paying for the invasion ourselves.

We cannot stop an invasion of illegal immigration while paying for it to continue.

https://capitalresearch.org/article/nonprofits-fueling-the-illegal-immigration-crisis/
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[Anti Federalist]

^^^^

And there are still stoopid people who actually believe that Walls and Police State solutions are going to solve it.

Of course walls will stop it.

Nations all around the world use walls to protect their borders.

Including the nation and people most responsible, (outside our own dumb asses that are too demoralized and atomized to come together for even a minute to defend ourselves) for facilitating our current invasion.

Why do we send billions to this nation to fund their walls?

 

[PAF]

Of course walls will stop it.

Nations all around the world use walls to protect their borders.

Including the nation and people most responsible, (outside our own dumb asses that are too demoralized and atomized to come together for even a minute to defend ourselves) for facilitating our current invasion.

Why do we send billions to this nation to fund their walls?

Don't cry like a poor little baby [not if, but] when it happens here. You are chanting and screaming for the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" to emulate other commie/fascist countries.

Spend spend spend, that'll fix it!

Yeah, you keep talking about civil war here and all the people who are screwing you. Not only will I be up against the Marxists, but the Fascists who are screwing me too.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The government in DC doesn't represent American citizens and they don't care that we know it.

That is pretty much it.

Traitors, moles and Quislings.

Now, we have the manpower, we have the tools, we have both the moral and legal high ground, to abolish this government, to arrest and punish the people responsible and run the underlings off.

All we lack is the courage and the will.

 

[PAF]

That is pretty much it.

Traitors, moles and Quislings.

Now, we have the manpower, we have the tools, we have both the moral and legal high ground, to abolish this government, to arrest and punish the people responsible and run the underlings off.

All we lack is the courage and the will.

No, A/F, we don't have the "moral high ground". Not when people scream for the "solutions" that you propose, which is most if not all of the dumb-a$$ "republicans".

I don't want any part of Marxism. I don't want any part of your Fascist solutions either.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Don't cry like a poor little baby [not if, but] when it happens here. You are chanting and screaming for the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" to emulate other commie/fascist countries.

Spend spend spend, that'll fix it!

Yeah, you keep talking about civil war here and all the people who are screwing you. Not only will I be up against the Marxists, but the Fascists who are screwing me too.

We've already been down this road.

Following the constitution is not fascism.

Why are we even arguing about it...you guys won.

 

[Anti Federalist]

No, A/F, we don't have the "moral high ground". Not when people scream for the "solutions" that you propose, which is most if not all of the dumb-a$$ "republicans".

I don't want any part of Marxism. I don't want any part of your Fascist solutions either.

You do not agree that this government has shown itself to be engaging in "a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism" and and destructive to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

 

[PAF]

We've already been down this road.

Following the constitution is not fascism.

Why are we even arguing about it...you guys won.

I didn't win sh|t. To the contrary, you guys "won". And mark my words, more wall and more Police-State "solutions" will be implemented no matter which one of your guys [Trump or Biden] wins the election. That CONstitution that you love so dearly was written for a moral people. The problem is, a "moral people" we are not.

There was money for the U.S. border in that pork bill.

Money to pay people to illegally cross it.

 

[PAF]

You do not agree that this government has shown itself to be engaging in "a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism" and and destructive to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Oh yes, I agree wholeheartedly. But it is the "solutions" that the dumb-a$$ people are screaming for, which does nothing but perpetuate the abuse this representative government is giving to us.

If you can't see that [or maybe you are simply a proponent], I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't want any part of your Fascist solutions either.

Defending your country and your home is not fascism.

I understand, you do not believe in nations or history or tradition or institutions.

I do.

So does my family.

"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."

Both are under extreme attack.

You've become so atomized, you'd let your neighbors house burn down before allowing firemen to drag hoses across your property.

My faith is questioned because some think God's plans should just all work themselves out and we must not lift a finger to try and alter or change them.

At the other extreme are folks like you, who would watch the world burn down right in front of them and not lift a finger to alter or change that, because, "I'm good, fuck 'em".

Well, piss on of all you.

Not only would I allow the hoses to be dragged, I'd happily help fight the fire in your home.

That does not make me a fucking fascist.

It makes me a good neighbor and friend.

I don't want to live in either one of your worlds.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh yes, I agree wholeheartedly. But it is the "solutions" that the dumb-a$$ people are screaming for, which does nothing but perpetuate the abuse this representative government is giving to us.

If you can't see that [or maybe you are simply a proponent], I don't know what to tell you.

That's the moral high ground I was speaking of.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I didn't win sh|t. To the contrary, you guys "won". And mark my words, more wall and more Police-State "solutions" will be implemented no matter which one of your guys [Trump or Biden] wins the election. That CONstitution that you love so dearly was written for a moral people. The problem is, a "moral people" we are not.

Sure there will be more police state.

But that will only be for you and me, not for the invaders.

There will be no wall, there will be no reduction in funding of NGOs are orchestrating the invasion, there will be no deportations.

The constitution will not be followed.

The nation will be no more in another 20 years or so.

And you're fine with that.

You win.

You're not going to like your prize, but you're the winner.

 

[acptulsa]

You've become so atomized, you'd let your neighbors house burn down before allowing firemen to drag hoses across your property.

I've never seen him say that. I've seen him engage the hypothetical, and decide no property owner should be forced to endure it. Which was simply an exploration of principles. Principles are good. If the average schmo had any, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Are you really so hungry to blame someone else for the fact that being willing to concede our principles for political expediency has landed us in a dumpster fire that you'll pick on the person who stands by those principles as if he was part of the group that suckered you? Talk about shooting the messenger.

My faith is questioned because some think God's plans should just all work themselves out and we must not lift a finger to try and alter or change them.

And now the fact that your politicians failed you miserably has you putting words in Mr. Drake's mouth that he did not say. He did not say, do nothing . In fact, you accused him of that and he denied it. What he did say was, preach the gospel. And what PAF is preaching has basis in the gospel -- trust God, not men.

I keep thinking of the people (some if whom I know) who are still not mad at the government for lying to them and trying to kill them, but are mad as hell at the person who told them the truth about where their medical problems came from. I wonder what brought them to mind?

And you're fine with that.

You could really stand to stop embarrassing yourself about now.