South Carolina Election Returns - 19:00ET (1/21/12) - Official Thread

did anybody think getting the nomination would be easy? keep your eyes on the prize.

Well...yes and no. Why is liberty, economic freedom, sound money, and last but not least, THE CONSTITUTION, such a hard sale? It shouldn't be, and for that I am deeply saddened.
 
I'm not nearly so optimistic as some people about the GOP reclamation project. I spent four years working through that beast, learning in the end that the GOP isn't worth saving. They will use the vitality of our well-intentioned young people, and after Paul is gone, the splintering effect coupled with disillusionment means they'll endure.

Which isn't to say I disagree with Ron doing what he is doing and us helping him. But understand that the nature of the two party process is that it is a multi-billion dollar industry driven by spoils, favor, and bribes on both sides, whatever legalisms are used. And in the end, the corruptible nature of legislators and the reality of our political process makes it very likely it will stay that way.

It's why I think we need to make sure, through whatever means possible, we give Ron every opportunity to succeed. Whether in the GOP or out, to the convention, to the LP, or what not, because there isn't another replacement in the wings. He needs to make the general ballot, whatever it takes.

If not, we're screwed.
 
Well...yes and no. Why is liberty, economic freedom, sound money, and last but not least, THE CONSTITUTION, such a hard sale? It shouldn't be, and for that I am deeply saddened.
Fighting a well crafted and long indoctrinated narrative.
 
The polls are closed. Wow, Newt Gingrich? Really? I will never want to visit that state. My sister lives there. Oh well. Maybe I can call in a rescue chopper.
 
Gingrich came in fourth in two opening states, now he's on top - politics changes DAILY - if he can come back from fourth, we certainly can - especially considering Paul didn't even spend a lot of time here.

That's because Gingrich was always treated as a viable candidate. Ron Paul is dismissed by the media as someone who can't win. You can't beat the media.
 
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Rand Paul beat the media. It's not impossible (and remember this forum is also 'media'... just a different kind). Just really, really hard.
 
Yeah, that's really weird. They were reporting "record low turnout" right up to the end. :( :confused: I'm gonna leave the tinfoil hat in the drawer, but something doth stinketh.

That was strange to me. Record low turnout was reported. I also saw there were some areas where it was above normal in certain areas. Overall a little weird
 
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