Something fishy is going on with the Clintons and Rockefellers

[Chibioz]

The Clintons are subordinate to Rockefeller, as are the Bushes. The Rockefellers do not attempt to run for President as they prefer to be the men behind the curtains actually pulling the puppet strings. They do not like to have light shined on them as their crimes and treasonous actions are horrendous.

+1
The Rockefellers are puppet masters, the presidency has been under their and other elite families' control for decades.

 

[Nathan Hale]

It seems obvious you are or you wouldn't be making such a big deal out of it.

Huh? Was this a reply to me?

 

[Nathan Hale]

+1
The Rockefellers are puppet masters, the presidency has been under their and other elite families' control for decades.

And you know this....how?

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

I don't see the connection. Can you shed some light on this with some evidence?

Nathan cannot live without something, a poll, evidence a document or SOMETHING.. Get the man some damn evidence before he gets mad

 

[Truth Warrior]

Rockefellers are Rothschild sock puppets. As are the Clintons.

 

[amy31416]

Hrm, I had always heard the conspiracy that Bill Clinton was an illegitimate child of Joe Kennedy.

Well, if we want to run some tests, it shouldn't be too much trouble to get his DNA.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Nathan cannot live without something, a poll, evidence a document or SOMETHING.. Get the man some damn evidence before he gets mad

I'm getting tired of this insinuating in thread after thread that there's something wrong with wanting evidence for a conspiracy theory. What do you normally go on, new years, heresay and conjecture?

 

[devil21]

I'm getting tired of this insinuating in thread after thread that there's something wrong with wanting evidence for a conspiracy theory. What do you normally go on, new years, heresay and conjecture?

I generally like to use something called "common sense". Besides, I didn't know RPForums was a court of law that required bulletproof evidence of any and every assertion. Some things are just self-evident.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I generally like to use something called "common sense".

Common sense is usually a reserved sensibility. It encourages caution and scrutiny.

Besides, I didn't know RPForums was a court of law that required bulletproof evidence of any and every assertion.

It's not, you're under no legal obligation to do anything. I'm just asking questions because I have common sense, and I demand a little bit more than what is being offered.

Some things are just self-evident.

Some things are. This isn't. This you have to prove, or at least bring enough evidence to the table that an average observer will take you seriously. Unless you're just here to preach to the choir, in which case have blast, but don't expect anything meaningful to be accomplished by your action. because sooner or later you're going to be challenged by questions like the ones I have, and if you ever want your theory to amount to anything, you're going to have to answer them. If anything, I'm a sympathetic ear, because my standards as a neutral observer are a heck of a lot lower than a vocal critic who supports the very institutions you seek to tear down.

 

[Dr.3D]

Well, you know somethings gotta be wrong when you see the two words, conspiracy and theory in the same sentence. Obviously, the media has done it's job.

 

[Mini-Me]

Here are some things we know and actually have strong evidence for:

• Rockefeller's connections to the CFR and Trilateral Commission are established.
• The CFR's overall aims, including its plans for a "North American Community" are well-documented on their own site - it's clear that they support the "internationalization" of government policy, e.g. a move towards regional and one world consolidated government power.
• Ron Paul's opposition to the CFR is well-known.

However, we've yet to sufficiently demonstrate the overwhelming role the CFR (and other groups, like the Trilateral Commission) seems to play in foreign policy and the selection of Presidential candidates. Yes, we can point to similarities in the CFR's agenda and the direction the country and world "seem" to be going in, but I'm with Nathan here: We do not yet have anywhere near a watertight case. It's almost like we're private investigators in a mafia movie, trying to pin something on a mob boss to take him down (the mob boss being either the CFR or David Rockefeller, depending on how you look at it). Lots of rumors go around, and everybody "knows" the truth, but are we able to prove it?

Although it appears self-evident to us that the CFR essentially picks candidates for the Presidency, we only have circumstantial evidence so far (sinister-sounding quotes from important figures, etc.). Granted, circumstantial evidence is probably the only evidence people like this are likely to leave...after all, even if we can prove that every President (and almost every nominee) since Kennedy have had strong connections to the CFR, that's still only circumstantial evidence (however damning). Still, right now, we don't even have that - we need to bridge that gap.

So...
Does anyone know where we can find empirical evidence that clearly establishes a connection between Presidential candidates and the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, etc.? No matter how self-evident the connection may seem on the intuitive level, we need to build a stronger case based on demonstrable facts to convince others.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Well, you know somethings gotta be wrong when you see the two words, conspiracy and theory in the same sentence. Obviously, the media has done it's job.

Howso?

 

[Nathan Hale]

Well, you know somethings gotta be wrong when you see the two words, conspiracy and theory in the same sentence. Obviously, the media has done it's job.

Any responses to post #19 yet?

 

[pinkmandy]

Thanks! I share with a great deal of people that never come to this forum. In fact all our meet up members (43) don't. So if I didn't send them this stuff they would never see it. I suspect this is true of a lot of us.

Thanks again!!

Ditto that. I take so much I find here and send it to everyone I know, post links on other boards, and put good youtubes in my siggie on other boards. With the help of you guys, I think I've opened a lot of eyes. I'm sure everyone here (or hoping everyone here) is doing the same. Many may not believe but if you keep exposing them to the same sort of shenanigans over and over and over that doubt creeps in and they start asking good questions. That's what we need. People asking questions that matter.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Double post

 

[lucius]

I'm getting tired of this insinuating in thread after thread that there's something wrong with wanting evidence for a conspiracy theory. What do you normally go on, new years, heresay and conjecture?

How about his own book?

Quote from David Rockefeller's Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002) Chapter 27, pages 404 and 405. Cited by Dr. Dennis Cuddy: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

 

[Nathan Hale]

How about his own book?

Quote from David Rockefeller's Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002) Chapter 27, pages 404 and 405. Cited by Dr. Dennis Cuddy: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

From this it sounds like he's admitting to believing in internationalism - not an admission that he's part of a "cabal" or that he has any true navigational abilities in national government or the international community.

 

[orafi]

Hrm, I had always heard the conspiracy that Bill Clinton was an illegitimate child of Joe Kennedy.

Yeah, you know that CONSPIRACY on how Joe cheated on his wife?

 

[lucius]

From this it sounds like he's admitting to believing in internationalism - not an admission that he's part of a "cabal" or that he has any true navigational abilities in national government or the international community.

Yet another:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller

 

[Nathan Hale]

Yet another:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller

Attribution please. Context is everything with quotes like this.