SOMEONE tweet Wead or something!

[Lord Xar]

Can someone let Wead know that Ron needs to BELT IT OUT OF THE PARK TOMORROW!!!!

He needs to do something. A great debate performance is worth millions in advertising.

He needs a way to turn the marginalization around on them. Attacking the hosts worked for Newt. Or call them out on their biasness "Why do you not allow the American voters to decide which candidate can best turn this country around when you ask canned questions to two of the most status quo/establishment candidates up here. It seems unfair that you are trying to create the narrative for the voter. You should ask & treat all candidates equally. Equal time. Let them all answer the same questions." or something.

I don't know... perception is everything and Faux and radio bobble-heads are creating the narrative of "last place" because of S.C. "He is dangerous" etc...

We need a watershed moment. I like Wead, I think he is great - but his debating tact is good for the long haul, it isn't good when you are trying to climb your way out of a hole and make sharp and concise impressions in the moment.

 

[sailingaway]

He needs to say what he WILL do, not just what he WON'T do on foreign policy and he needs to point out he is the ONLY ONE who would not cut Social Security and medicare yet would balance the budget in 3 years WITHOUT using the words 'transition plan' which leads the elderly to think he won't pull the rug out THIS year but will NEXT. He won't harm it for those who paid in and will let the young opt out, is a very different thing.

 

[bcreps85]

I agree. We won't win or even get 2nd in FL no matter what, but 3rd is of utmost importance for perception of "who should drop out", and to prove there is still some momentum. It's time to go on offense during these debates. Call the media out. Ignore stupid questions and answer what he will do to keep Social Security and Medicare financed. Stop saying what we won't do around the world with our military and say what we will do here and if we are attacked.

 

[eugenekop]

I think RP has switched to preacher mode, which is also fine. When you do presidential marketing you don't voice the message of liberty. So its not an easy dilemma.

 

[CaptUSA]

He needs to do something. A great debate performance is worth millions in advertising.

It's also worth millions in the campaign coffers. Moneybombs work a lot better when the grassroots are fired up. An A+ debate gets us more amped up and attracts more potential donors.

I always say the best thing he can do is have a call to action. It doesn't really matter what it is, but give the people something to do!

 

[eugenekop]

For that he has to stop spreading the message of liberty and instead do cheap marketing tricks and one liners. Not sure if that's what we want.

 

[Lord Xar]

For that he has to stop spreading the message of liberty and instead do cheap marketing tricks and one liners. Not sure if that's what we want.

We want to win. I don't believe "liberty" needs to be conveyed in a specific way. Look at the great speakers of the past.. MLK, Kennedy etc.. even the knucklehead Obama -- their message is one the people love. They speak about liberty/freedom/jobs etc.... True, it matters what happens afterwards... but Ron Paul's message can be preached like fiery brimstone... if he did. That is all it would take.

We talked about this in 2007. Same issues. I just hope Wead or someone can instill it in Ron or tweak it so that it resonates more.

 

[Darthbrooklyn]

1. Ron needs to act like he wants to be there.. Tuesdays debate looked like he wasnt
2. If Doug Weade/Bruce Fein/Benton/Jack Hunter explain Ron Paul better then Ron Paul does, its a problem
3. In relation to #2, Millions of people are watching Ron Paul at the debates.. his surrogate spokespeople are not watched by millions no matter how awesome they are. His delivery needs to change and fast...

I love Ron as much as the next guy , but im being a realist..

 

[PursuePeace]

He needs to say what he WILL do, not just what he WON'T do on foreign policy and he needs to point out he is the ONLY ONE who would not cut Social Security and medicare yet would balance the budget in 3 years WITHOUT using the words 'transition plan' which leads the elderly to think he won't pull the rug out THIS year but will NEXT. He won't harm it for those who paid in and will let the young opt out, is a very different thing.

YES!!

 

[LibertyEagle]

We want to win. I don't believe "liberty" needs to be conveyed in a specific way. Look at the great speakers of the past.. MLK, Kennedy etc.. even the knucklehead Obama -- their message is one the people love. They speak about liberty/freedom/jobs etc.... True, it matters what happens afterwards... but Ron Paul's message can be preached like fiery brimstone... if he did. That is all it would take.

We talked about this in 2007. Same issues. I just hope Wead or someone can instill it in Ron or tweak it so that it resonates more.

I agree. People want passion and conviction.

 

[febo]

I think one of ther key buzzwords for Republican audiences is "strong" - Romney drops it all the time. RP even used it along with a fist clench recently.
Perhaps Paul could explain how liberty is much "stronger" way of living than relying on a nanny state, that the strongest leaders resist the use of violence - discretion is the better part of valor etc.

 

[Lord Xar]

Why do we all see this.. but the campaign doesn't? I am not understanding it.

 

[Darthbrooklyn]

You can still spread the message of liberty without pandering or playing dirty politics... Its all about communication.... The message and the delivery shouldnt be mutually exclusive.

 

[Revolution9]

When you have always been the smartest guy in the room you have a tendency to hedge your way into concepts because people have and will walk away. They are insulted that you are challenging their constructs if you just say something with assurance. Ron's defense mechanism is to kind of stutter his way into concepts to let the listeners guard down that these are not intellectual decrees but more softball think-abouts. I don't know if this can or should be changed. The concept of positive versus negative as to what you would do under given policies is tough in that it is in the same grey area in public perception as rights which to be exercised have to be exercised or made positive. But some people will get downright pissed at you for exercising your rights. What brings cheers from one group brings jeers from another. I think just stick to his guns and no stuttering into concepts as a defense mechanism. Let the other clowns trash each other. Let no slight pass without at least an attempt with hand gestures to speak.

Rev9

 

[LibertyEagle]

Why do we all see this.. but the campaign doesn't? I am not understanding it.

Why do you assume that they don't understand it? I'm pretty sure that they do.

 

[Sarge]

I agree SS should be a big one liner tonight. He is likely only to get 6 minutes, so he needs a shock couple liner that grabs attention.

Something along the lines. Voters, I am the one to elect so your SS continues. The others intend to keep on spending and having wars until there will be no money left for your SS. I intend to prevent that by cutting the debt, closing the billion dollar embassies, bringing troops home to create spending here, letting younger people opt out of SS while protecting those that are on SS etc.

If Ron intends to be President, he needs to be able to be forceful and not Mr. nice this time. As President, he will have to be not nice many times. Lower the voice and take command tonight, jump in and don't let the MSM shoot those crap questions without blowback.

 

[turbobrain9]

I think you have to tweet the person closest to Ron or at least would have the most influence. Jesse, maybe John Tate...but I doubt that they even have that much of an influence. I think Ron does his own thing for whatever reason. Obviously he is aware that he can do a better job with his delivery but as they say: "to know and not to do, is not to know."

To be fair, Ron has made a few changes to his message: 1. He talks about not attacking child and elderly healthcare 2. he uses the words strong national defense and distinguishes military from defense spending. 3. He has attacked Santorum and Newt on their records in the debates when asked.

Anything else that we have seen him change up?

He has got to do something because the media is will move to suggest how the campaign is moving towards irrelevancy.

 

[angrydragon]

Lol, that's it Sarge, no more Mr. nice guy, be in charge.

He could be Mr. nice after he garners the nomination.

 

[BKom]

Ron is the cash cow for every one of these guys in the campaign. And they know he's going to be the cash cow long after this campaign is over. They will do nothing to jeopardize their future on the money train. They will not tell him the truth and they will not challenge his natural inclination to refuse debate coaching. He is stubborn, and they are worthless in this respect.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Ron is the cash cow for every one of these guys in the campaign. And they know he's going to be the cash cow long after this campaign is over. They will do nothing to jeopardize their future on the money train. They will not tell him the truth and they will not challenge his natural inclination to refuse debate coaching. He is stubborn, and they are worthless in this respect.