Some negatives about Rand Paul

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Rand Paul impresses me in many ways. Like his father, he comes across as a thoughtful, gentle, and authentic person. It's almost impossible to listen to this guy or read his biography without thinking: wow, this is a man I can trust.


That being said, I have some major concerns with him. His father seems to be much more on the anti-war side, even going so far to repudiate his own military service in the great 'universal soldier' speech. The peace issue is very important to me, and it seems that Rand is wishy-washy about it; I am dissapointed by his support for a "declaration of war" with Afghanistan. While I believe that some force was justified, I agree with Dr. Paul's position that it should've been VERY LIMITED AND MEASURED. (like a police operation... just killing the terrorists... marque and reprisal)

As a libertarian that believes in individual rights, I cannot reconcile "war" (i.e., mass killing/maiming of innocents) against the evil but uninvolved in 9/11 Taliban government and especially all the "collateral damage" in terms of innocent Afghan civilians. I have no problem with blowing the heads off the murderers that helped drive planes into the Twin Towers, but modern weaponry ensures that, in war, the bulk of the death will be innocent men women and children. (which of course far exceeds the 9/11 deaths) I also don't see Rand's understanding of "blowback" to be as deep as his father's.

http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/17/rand-paul/ (Rand Paul's positions)
YouTube - Universal Soldier (Ron Paul universal soldier)

Even worse, he opposes prosecuting Bush for torture (again, unlike his father) and (terrifyingly) cited Richard Nixon receiving a pardon by Gerald Ford as something we should look to emulate. I'm going to get knocked for saying this, but his positions sometimes sound more like Obama and Hillary's disingeous, pandering "centrism" rather than his father's principled radicalism.

Should we root for Rand Paul to win the seat in KY? Absolutely. He's much better than mainstream politicos on the issues, has actually worked hard and held a real job, and is a decent human being with his father's integrity and values. But don't be surprised if he ends up being more of a Sanford than a Papa Paul or Peter Schiff.

And in the mean time, I would humbly suggest that R3volutionaries throughly vet ALL OF OUR prospective candidates. Not only do we have to make sure they have the integrity and intellectual wherewithal to represent our movement, but that they are philosophically sound as well. The only way that we can win this fight is by being right on the issues, because that is the source of the passion that gives us purpose. If we start to equivocate on CENTRAL ISSUES like peace and liberty, don't be surprised if this has turned into the "glenn beck movement" in a few years.
 
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Just because he hasn't come out as virulently antiwar as his father doesn't mean he isn't. He's trying to win a major party U.S. Senate primary and I think it should be obvious by now that any superficial weakness on "national security" issues will be heavily exploited. He needs to be able to espouse non-interventionism without allowing his opponents to frame him as "weak" on "defense", and I don't think there's anything wrong with erring on the side of caution.
 
Just because he hasn't come out as virulently antiwar as his father doesn't mean he isn't. He's trying to win a major party U.S. Senate primary and I think it should be obvious by now that any superficial weakness on "national security" issues will be heavily exploited. He needs to be able to espouse non-interventionism without allowing his opponents to frame him as "weak" on "defense", and I don't think there's anything wrong with erring on the side of caution.

My point isn't calling out on how he sells the foreign policy message (emphasizing a strong national defense is fine), it's calling his actual positions. I find those positions to be dissapointing and troubling, but I still am fully supporting Dr. Rand Paul. However, while it may not be enough to rescind my support, it still me more excited about Peter Schiff than Rand.
 
I can shed some light on the Afghanistan declaration of war thing. Rand is drawing this from an author named Michael Sheuer, specifically in his book Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam after Iraq. In his book Michael make the case for a quick and "surgical" strike against bin Laden and Al Queda. Mr. Sheuer's contention is that because Bush II waited over a month to go into Afghanistan that this gave bin Laden time to disappear into the mountains. Michael Sheuer has a good book about the US's failings in the Middle East and I would recommend it to anyone.

Hope this helps to clarify this one position.
 
I think Rand is playing politics, and I think he is playing very well. ;) :cool:
 
Link me to the video of Peter Schiff explaining his stances on National Defense.....;)

I've heard him come out against military spending and the Iraq war in interviews before, but never heard him go in depth.
 
Link me to the video of Peter Schiff explaining his stances on National Defense.....;)

Peter Schiff basically says the same thing as Ron Paul....he says that we cannot afford our empire and since we are almost bankrupt we need to end it.
 
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