Social Libertarian?

[The_Orlonater]

Why? Why do I hav to pay for socialistic education? Maybe the free market comes up with a better solution? Maybe the free market would cut education time in half? Public schools are a hallmark of socialism. I'm not rich, but I know for a fact that I'd do better if we had a free market in education. I would be exposed to QUALITY, I would have gotten taught everything at a younger age, I would have been able to make payment arrangements, I could have explored charities, but wee are all subjected tothe assembly line treatment. Are we not a product? That's how I feel. The gov monitors and jots the numbers down of all graduates, all new college students, calculated % of people taking high management positions, this is all what I call central economic planning. The gov lets a strain of the free markt survive, but gives power to friends, creates a "one way path" to prosperity, hence cronyism. Fuck them!

Free market education? We have a mix, we have PRIVATE school and PUBLIC school. Go to private school. Not everyone can afford 3000-8000 dollars a year in schooling just to let you know. But if you can and want too, go for it.

Be homeschooled for all I fucking care.lic education
The community agrees for public schooling. I don't care if you call it "democratic."

Just because 5 people disagree with almost 3 million. I really don't care. Move out if you want to.

 

[ARealConservative]

When did I sign the constitution? hm

you didn't.

But you vote.

Truth Warrior may have the moral authority to question things, but you don't.

 

[The_Orlonater]

So the folks paying for the shitty schools are merely getting ripped off again.
Let the parents and teachers control the schools not beaurocrats. The taxation is to pay for all schools. Not to have beaurocrat control.

You have very little, if anything, new to remind or teach me about learning and schooling.<IMHO>

As do you. <IMHO>

I've been hearing the very same "fix things" BS crapola for decades now.

Cool, don't want it in your community? Great, see if I care. I'm talking about my own community.

Which merely brings us back around full circle to the subject of taxation, as simply theft and stealing.

I've already explained this to you.

 

[The_Orlonater]

you didn't.

But you vote.

Truth Warrior may have the moral authority to question things, but you don't.

+1

Thank you.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Don't let the extremists get to you.

They bitch and complain about coercion, but the fact is the constitution allowed states to create public schools, and 99% of voters agree with the concept.

Yeah, you and your "gangs" of thieves, robbers and murderers, and then you have the unmitigated gall to call us "extremists".

If it wasn't coming from YOU, I just might be surprised.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Yeah, you and your "gangs" are thieves, robbers and murderers, and then have the unmitigated gall to call us "extremists".

If it wasn't coming from YOU, I just might be surprised.

Taxation is not always theft.

Almost everybody here(community) agrees for taxation.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Free market education? We have a mix, we have PRIVATE school and PUBLIC school. Go to private school. Not everyone can afford 3000-8000 dollars a year in schooling just to let you know. But if you can and want too, go for it.

Be homeschooled for all I fucking care.lic education
The community agrees for public schooling. I don't care if you call it "democratic."

Just because 5 people disagree with almost 3 million. I really don't care. Move out if you want to.

It costs that much because of the lack of competition. What creates lack of competition? Socialized education funneling away most kids, that's why there aren't many private schools, and that's why they can charge so much. Our purchasing power is also crap, but that's another story...

 

[Truth Warrior]

So the folks paying for the shitty schools are merely getting ripped off again.
Let the parents and teachers control the schools not beaurocrats. The taxation is to pay for all schools. Not to have beaurocrat control.

Control ain't the issue, junior. Theft is.


As do you. <IMHO>

< LMAO >



Cool, don't want it in your community? Great, see if I care. I'm talking about my own community.

Chicago? Does the mob and the historically corrupt Daley Machine still run things there?



I've already explained this to you.

No you didn't. Not even close. There's much more to explanation than merely typing.

 

[The_Orlonater]

It costs that much because of the lack of competition. What creates lack of competition? Socialized education funneling away most kids, that's why there aren't many private schools, and that's why they can charge so much. Our purchasing power is also crap, but that's another story...

Wow, you really don't get it do you? There is competition. There are tons of private schools. Where do you get your information from, Joseph? Is this your community?

 

[Truth Warrior]

you didn't.

But you vote.

Truth Warrior may have the moral authority to question things, but you don't.

Thanks for that.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Wow, you really don't get it do you? There is competition. There are tons of private schools. Where do you get your information from, Joseph? Is this your community?

If there are tons, why don't I see more of them? I don't see much competition going on. Why can't I start a school in my house? And government has to accredit every private school, yes?

 

[The_Orlonater]

I can't talk to you in real life so I type.

IT'S NOT FUCKING THEFT. For god's heavenly sake, there are families who don't have time to homeschool their children ,or have enough money for private education. So that's why there's public education. That should be controled by teachers and parents. Great, bash where I live. Just because there's some corrupt people here that doesn't mean my ideas are exactly the same as yours. You want to throw insults around where I live? You want to act like a fucking adolescent?

(I'm swaring because you're ignoring everything I say)

 

[The_Orlonater]

If there are tons, why don't I see more of them? I don't see much competition going on. Why can't I start a school in my house? And government has to accredit every private school, yes?

First of all you don't look. Second of all the government accrediting private schools I don't agree with.

I agree with competition.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

First of all you don't look. Second of all the government accrediting private schools I don't agree with.

I agree with competition.

Better education will come with the eagerness of the parents to find their children a good eduation.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Better education will come with the eagerness of the parents to find their children a good eduation.

True, but there are poorer families. Hence, IMO they can pay a low tax for schools to be funded. They can control the school with the teachers so the kid can get good education.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I can't talk to you in real life so I type.

IT'S NOT FUCKING THEFT. For god's heavenly sake, there are families who don't have time to homeschool their children ,or have enough money for private education. So that's why there's public education. That should be controled by teachers and parents. Great, bash where I live. Just because there's some corrupt people here that doesn't mean my ideas are exactly the same as yours. You want to throw insults around where I live? You want to act like a fucking adolescent?

(I'm swaring because you're ignoring everything I say)

Yes it is too FUCKING THEFT. Paid for with and by stolen money. This is not a difficult concept to understand AT ALL. Hey, I just asked you a question. Your over the top response clearly implies an answer of YES.

No, I'm NOT ignoring, I'm disagreeing. Didn't you learn the very simple differences in your "government" schools?

 

[The_Orlonater]

Yes it is too FUCKING THEFT. Paid for with and by stolen money. This is not a difficult concept to understand AT ALL. Hey, I just asked you a question. Your over the top response clearly implies an answer of YES.

No, I'm NOT ignoring, I'm disagreeing. Didn't you learn the very simple differences in your "government" schools?

Sir, it ain't theft because people agree with it. I think of these taxes as buying something. Everyone agrees with the concept so they put in small amounts of money. Aand that money is used to pay for public schools, builidng roads and highways and whatnot, public transportation and all of its needs and whatnot.

Unless you want to live in an area like this.

You're ignoring my "everyone agrees" concept. This benefits the people in a better city.

 

[ARealConservative]

Thanks for that.

I understand your position more then you think, and maybe some day I too will throw my hands up in the air and state for the world to hear that it will never work this way.


But damn it TW, I want so badly to kick the current GOP to the curve, and it requires a powerful collective to achieve this.

 

[ARealConservative]

all taxation is theft.

The problem is that if the vast majority have no interest in prosecuting crimes, it is impossible to do so. This is true even in anarchy.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Sir, it ain't theft because people agree with it. I think of these taxes as buying something. Everyone agrees with the concept so they put in small amounts of money. Aand that money is used to pay for public schools, builidng roads and highways and whatnot, public transportation and all of its needs and whatnot.

Unless you want to live in an area like this.

You're ignoring my "everyone agrees" concept. This benefits the people in a better city.

Thee inner city is where the government intervenes the most