So wikileaks says Rand Paul was considered a threat.

[Mordan]

So logically. as a consequence knowing Hillary's corrupt ways.... she sent a few of her minions on RPF to infiltrate our coalition around 2015.

Wouldn't you do that ? Its a logical consequence of Rand being a threat.

Who keeps supporting Hillary here?

 

[misterx]

There's a certain kitty cat who is known to be associated with the Clinton campaign.

 

[nikcers]

So logically.
Who keeps supporting Hillary here?

 

[phill4paul]

So logically. as a consequence knowing Hillary's corrupt ways.... she sent a few of her minions on RPF to infiltrate our coalition around 2015.

Wouldn't you do that ? Its a logical consequence of Rand being a threat.

Who keeps supporting Hillary here?

I dunno, they both suck. Trump supporters seem to think that since I don't support Trump I'm a Hillary supporter. Hillary supporters must read from the same playbook. They think that since I don't support Hillary I must support Trump. Both sides are similar in that respect.

 

[JK/SEA]

if no one votes for trump, hillary wins.

if no one votes for hillary trump wins.

if no one votes, someone will be appointed, and the Constitution may as well be nullified.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Wasn't it that the Dem machine decided to use media sources to promote Trump and Cruz in the primary, because they were scared of Rand? I seem to remember a lot of Trumpsters during that time saying what a terrible campaign Rand was running and that he should more emulate Trump.....

 

[eleganz]

Wasn't it that the Dem machine decided to use media sources to promote Trump and Cruz in the primary, because they were scared of Rand? I seem to remember a lot of Trumpsters during that time saying what a terrible campaign Rand was running and that he should more emulate Trump.....

Not only were the Trumpsters saying that but Rand/Ron's own supporters were saying that. Gotta love the backseat campaign strategists...

 

[KCIndy]

if no one votes for trump, hillary wins.

if no one votes for hillary trump wins.

if no one votes, someone will be appointed, and the Constitution may as well be nullified.

And if just 1 in 3 of the people who say, "I would vote third party, except that I don't want to waste my vote," would actually vote for a third party, the Republicans and Democrats would both receive the kick in the nuts that they so richly deserve.

 

[Mordan]

I dunno, they both suck. Trump supporters seem to think that since I don't support Trump I'm a Hillary supporter. Hillary supporters must read from the same playbook. They think that since I don't support Hillary I must support Trump. Both sides are similar in that respect.

That swipe wasn't directed at forum members with stats like yours, though I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary CTR "bought" themselves credibility.

 

[Mordan]

And if just 1 in 3 of the people who say, "I would vote third party, except that I don't want to waste my vote," would actually vote for a third party, the Republicans and Democrats would both receive the kick in the nuts that they so richly deserve.

well you highlighted why France system is better with 2 turns. 1st turn you can freely vote your conscience.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Surprised Marco rubio was also considered a threat to. But not Jeb Bush.. If it was Jeb Bush Hillary would had blamed the middle east failures on Jeb Bush.

 

[jmdrake]

What's sad is that Trump spend the entire primary season (and spend a lot of his own money) destroying Rand, Cruz, Carson (OMG how he went after Ben Carson) and yet didn't go after Hillary until after letting her get away with personally attacking him throughout the first debate with hardly any response.

 

[Mordan]

What's sad is that Trump spend the entire primary season (and spend a lot of his own money) destroying Rand, Cruz, Carson (OMG how he went after Ben Carson) and yet didn't go after Hillary until after letting her get away with personally attacking him throughout the first debate with hardly any response.

Trump has flaws. And let's not forget, Trump was being attacked and most people thought Trump would never get the nomination. Cruz was fine until he started attacking Trump. I didn't watch everything. But if I remember correctly Rand attacked Trump first. Rand should have sticked to his message and kindly educate Trump in debates by stressing where he agreed. Rand saw the media collusion against his father.
My personal take is that Rand had become too establishment. Now you may disagree. But only Cruz and Trump kept attacking the establishment and the media.

 

[Todd]

There's a certain kitty cat who is known to be associated with the Clinton campaign.

Well, then let's grab them by the kitty and throw em out.

 

[Mordan]

I want to add this:

Rand was indeed a threat. But he didn't capitalize on the anti-establishment sentiment. Trump and Cruz did. For some wacky reason, some of the Paul advisers advised Rand to play ball and become one of them. He lost touch as a result. His rhetoric and policies are the best. But his style and the establishment stains severed him from the anger and populism that has been growing and growing for years.

 

[EBounding]

There's nothing Rand could have done to get ahead of Tronald. If Rand road Trump's coattails like Cruz did, he'd be in a much more difficult spot right now.

 

[Mordan]

There's nothing Rand could have done to get ahead of Tronald. If Rand road Trump's coattails like Cruz did, he'd be in a much more difficult spot right now.

well every single Republican who didn't support Trump become irrelevant if Trump wins. Trump doesn't like politicking calculating snakes.

 

[RonPaulMall]

There's nothing Rand could have done to get ahead of Tronald. If Rand road Trump's coattails like Cruz did, he'd be in a much more difficult spot right now.

Nonsense. Rand was in the race long before Trump. He had months to pick up the ball and run with it and if he had the Trump campaign would have been nothing more than a short term publicity stunt to promote his golf courses and hotels. My only fear going in to the primary was that Scott Walker would jump on the anti-globalism bandwagon before Rand could get his name id up. Never in a million years did I envision both Rand and Walker totally ignoring most important issue in the campaign and letting Donald Trump waltz in weeks later and make it his own. What we witnessed in the primary was political negligence on an epic scale.

 

[William Tell]

Trump has flaws. And let's not forget, Trump was being attacked and most people thought Trump would never get the nomination. Cruz was fine until he started attacking Trump. I didn't watch everything. But if I remember correctly Rand attacked Trump first. Rand should have sticked to his message and kindly educate Trump in debates by stressing where he agreed. Rand saw the media collusion against his father.
My personal take is that Rand had become too establishment. Now you may disagree. But only Cruz and Trump kept attacking the establishment and the media.

So you think Rand should have played nice, but not Trump.

Trump cannot be educated, all he does is viciously attack everyone, and cry foul when anyone does the same to him.

 

[TheTexan]

And if just 1 in 3 of the people who say, "I would vote third party, except that I don't want to waste my vote," would actually vote for a third party, the Republicans and Democrats would both receive the kick in the nuts that they so richly deserve.

I think Gary Johnson may be too extreme libertarian, for most people