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Joeinmo said:
Liberty is not about one candidate, and if you truly want to win, you need to take over the party and this is great central place to do it

also acalltopaul.com
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*sigh*

Have we figured it out by now??

We need to work on educating people as to why they should want freedom and liberty (even though AF says they don't and never will....and I agree with him. This will be an uphill battle.) Taking over "the party" means nothing if the people don't know why they should vote for us...(or if we have to pretend we're not who we really are.)

And P.S.....I assume by "the party" you mean the GOP. I was done with the GOP 4 years ago. I would have voted for Rand, but now I'm really done with them. Good riddance.
 
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Unknownuser said:
Why rebrand or rename? We all came here because of Ron. Who cares if he or his son are not running for POTUS.
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At some point Rons influence ends. To keep a successful board there will need to be new members. I doubt many people Google Ron Paul. I could be wrong?
 
Maybe we can become Liberty Forums.

Libertyforums.com is taken, but there's practically nothing there and what is is a decade out of date. Maybe whoever owns it would sell it cheap to someone who would keep using it for the right cause.
 
1. Get ready for our next potus candidate. Thomas Massie perhaps.
2. Work to elect good state and locals.
3. Sit back and watch this whole clown show work out.
4. When I first came here, I typed in libertyforest.com; I still use that web address to this day. Just call it what you want, but Ron is/was the central figure of this web site, so I think his name should stay at the top.
 
Makes Interesting Points said:
Nice. Glad to see someone else who can't really go full on for the Libertarian Party. A lot of mainstream libertarians are mostly driven by self interest and non-priority issues, such as drugs. They often don't have any enthusiasm for capitalism, and have no problem voting Democrat just to spite Republicans on social issues. They're worried about corruption and see freedom as a moral issue, but are just as sucked into the loss of morality slippery slope as Democrats are. Ironically, some Libertarians could actually be better for social conservatism than Republicans, due to willingness to let states decide things. But it would require the right Libertarian, one that is not morally corrupted, for me to trust.

I would argue that the Constitution Party aligns better for many paleocons than LP, even if some if it is for the wrong reasons. Though I am skeptical of the Constitution Party's willingness to tackle certain key issues like the NSA.

However, I don't have much enthusiasm for strengthening a 3rd party that would destroy the Republican Party. Unless the Democratic Party is also destroyed in the process, it would give too much power to the Democrats, and America would fall to socialism. I can't see the Democratic Party being destroyed anytime soon, since there's no diversity of thought in it. Everyone just "goes with the flow" and they always lump farther left with the same ideology over and over. There was practically zero resistance in that party to the introduction of socialism. The only thing I can see stopping the two party machine is a party that can pull in independents somewhat equally from the left and the right. Perhaps a "Populist" or organized "Independent" party. It would have quite a wide range of political ideologies, and a very diverse cast fighting for the nomination each time. If the party had recorded debates, they could gain national attention, as they'd be Democrat V.S. Republican esque, which would give people craving the general election debates early something to watch.
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Those people are called libertines. Real libertarians are very rare.
 
erowe1 said:
Maybe we can become Liberty Forums.

Libertyforums.com is taken, but there's practically nothing there and what is is a decade out of date. Maybe whoever owns it would sell it cheap to someone who would keep using it for the right cause.
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It is and has been Liberty Forest,, since just after the 2008 run.

Seems fitting it would remain so.
 
Libertas Aut Mortis said:
I truly believe that you can't have Liberty without Virtue, or Virtue without Liberty...they go hand in hand. The Libertarian Party seems to be resistant to Virtue. The Constitution Party seems to frown upon Liberty. The Democrats are going full Marxist. The Republicans are going full Imperialist.

I was happier when I was ignorant. God...why did I ever look away from that damn TV?
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My thought about your comment on the LP and their resistance to Virtue. You put 10 people in a room together and you'll get 10 different opinions on what Virtue is, what they accept as virtuous, where they draw the line. Liberty is the most important thing to strive for in this political process because we can all choose for ourselves where we want to draw that line of virtue, but if we don't have liberty, we can't choose anything.
 
Anti Federalist said:
I concur, we need a Vermin Supreme forum.
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Well, everyone needs someone to vote for. It's a basic human need, along with food, shelter, and companionship.

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cajuncocoa said:
*sigh*

Have we figured it out by now??

We need to work on educating people as to why they should want freedom and liberty (even though AF says they don't and never will....and I agree with him. This will be an uphill battle.) Taking over "the party" means nothing if the people don't know why they should vote for us...(or if we have to pretend we're not who we really are.)

And P.S.....I assume by "the party" you mean the GOP. I was done with the GOP 4 years ago. I would have voted for Rand, but now I'm really done with them. Good riddance.
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Same here. The GOP is an extension of the MIC which leaves liberty SOL.
 
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