So what happens to RPF

[jbauer]

What happens to this place? I know it'll still be here for awhile but some of the "Ron Paul" voters and supporters of 2008 and 2012 have already left. The Dailypaul is gone. The actual Ron Paul forum doesn't get traffic or posts.

Where does that leave us? I'm not a hardcore libertarian. I enjoy this place because I can come read about a guy pooping in a bucket (in the freedom living forum...great story by the way...read it). I can read Antifederalists "dog got shot" stuff in the politics forum. I can read about BS legislation from TARP to CISPA to the latest "Free trade agreement" and on and on and on.

I frankly didn't know you guys even existed till Ron Paul ran for president. Thought maybe it was just me that was messed up in the head. I don't want to loose this or a similar type environment. I don't have all day to scour the various news places on the internet. I hope that one day I don't try and log into this place and its gone.

If the intent is to keep this place going, it will require a name change or re branding though. In years to come Ron will end up being a footnote in political history. But dammit he sure was important to me.

Tough day, sorry for the ramble.

 

[Joeinmo]

Liberty is not about one candidate, and if you truly want to win, you need to take over the party and this is great central place to do it

also acalltopaul.com

 

[Kotin]

I'll be here till its gone.. great place for intelligent conversation and up-to-date news

 

[jllundqu]

What happens to this place? I know it'll still be here for awhile but some of the "Ron Paul" voters and supporters of 2008 and 2012 have already left. The Dailypaul is gone. The actual Ron Paul forum doesn't get traffic or posts.

Where does that leave us? I'm not a hardcore libertarian. I enjoy this place because I can come read about a guy pooping in a bucket (in the freedom living forum...great story by the way...read it). I can read Antifederalists "dog got shot" stuff in the politics forum. I can read about BS legislation from TARP to CISPA to the latest "Free trade agreement" and on and on and on.

I frankly didn't know you guys even existed till Ron Paul ran for president. Thought maybe it was just me that was messed up in the head. I don't want to loose this or a similar type environment. I don't have all day to scour the various news places on the internet. I hope that one day I don't try and log into this place and its gone.

If the intent is to keep this place going, it will require a name change or re branding though. In years to come Ron will end up being a footnote in political history. But dammit he sure was important to me.

Tough day, sorry for the ramble.

I agree. The mission of RPF has been to put Paul in the white house. That is now out the window (in the near to mid term). Many will leave, many will stay. Perhaps a 'rename or rebrand' would be appropriate so as to focus not so much on the Pauls but on Liberty altogether, in all its forms, and on all levels.

 

[Indy Vidual]

This movement needs a large source of money with no strings attached.

 

[dannno]

Time will tell, but this is still probably the best place to discuss liberty in a broad sense. There may or may not be better places if you are into the militia/bundy situation, there may or may not be better places to discuss ending the war on drugs, there may or may not be better places to discuss a peaceful foreign policy - but this place brings all those together and more. That is because Ron Paul had the most comprehensive, consistent, principled belief in liberty of any major politician or celebrity in decades.

If someone else comes along who is that consistent, we can adopt them into discussion and maybe even create a forum. But until then, there is nowhere else to go, so we should probably stay here.

 

[Spikender]

I still see a long road of shit-spewing over Trump and Cruz, who both have supporters on this website, before we fade into obscurity and I find another website to post terrible opinions on.

 

[dannno]

I agree. The mission of RPF has been to put Paul in the white house. That is now out the window (in the near to mid term). Many will leave, many will stay. Perhaps a 'rename or rebrand' would be appropriate so as to focus not so much on the Pauls but on Liberty altogether, in all its forms, and on all levels.

"Liberty" means different things to different people. There are progressives who actually believe that our brand of liberty, real liberty, is fascism because we don't want to let them have their welfare state and opportunity to get single payer health insurance. They want the "liberty" to enforce their mandates on everybody else through the democratic process.

Ron Paul did a great job of educating people about what real liberty actually means, and he did that for a broad spectrum of the population. Ron Paul is good to have front and center for as long as it takes at least until another person steps up who has the understanding and influence that he did.

 

[Unknownuser]

Why rebrand or rename? We all came here because of Ron. Who cares if he or his son are not running for POTUS.

 

[dannno]

I still see a long road of shit-spewing over Trump and Cruz, who both have supporters on this website, before we fade into obscurity and I find another website to post terrible opinions on.

Fortunately they are the minority, as the poll indicated, only about 33% of the site voted for anything besides LP/CP or non-vote.

 

[adam220891]

I will be here.

 

[Chieppa1]

Nothing.

 

[Spikender]

Fortunately they are the minority, as the poll indicated, only about 33% of the site voted for anything besides LP/CP or non-vote.

A significant minority nevertheless. And more vocal than I or many others who are more strict with our libertarian leanings.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

I guess I am on the brink of feeling lost as well.

I signed up for RPF just a few days ago, and then all of this happens. I finally found a place full of like minded people, and then the rug got pulled out from underneath me.

So I'm hoping we can all stay together on here to advance our cause together. But there are so many questions now that we are ready in the wilderness.

Ted is are really slimy, backstabbing neocon, who will say or do anything to get elected. He is Ron Paul's biggest mistake.

Rubio is basically Cuban Obama.

Trump is Pat Buchanan if he was crossed with Michael Bloomberg and George Lincoln Rockwell.

Carson is a good man, but will be led by "the experts"...

Bush...is Bush. Also a good man, but not a man of Liberty at all.

The rest are essentially done.

The Constitution Party seem appealing, but they are only half right, for all of the wrong reasons. I don't want a theocracy, or protectionism. I want to be left alone!

The Libertarian Party would seem like the logical choice...but honestly, they are as bad ares Cruz. They brag about not supporting Paul, they actively hurt him in fact. Their message is being subverted by fedora wearing social justice warriors. They are also half right...for all the wrong reasons. The drug war shouldn't be abandoned because it doesn't work. It should be abandoned because it violates basic human liberty and the Constitution. When is the last time you heard the LP defend the Constitution...as opposed to hearing them try to use the Constitution to defend their positions.

I don't know who to vote for. It can't be the Dems. It won't be the Repubs. Not pro-choice hippy Gary Johnson. Not a 'Constitutionalist' theocratic from the CP. I just can't.

I guess I'll be writing in Paul then. But then what...how long do I have to live ignored and unrepresented? God I hate stupid people so, so much.

 

[Kotin]

I guess I am on the brink of feeling lost as well.

I signed up for RPF just a few days ago, and then all of this happens. I finally found a place full of like minded people, and then the rug got pulled out from underneath me.

So I'm hoping we can all stay together on here to advance our cause together. But there are so many questions now that we are ready in the wilderness.

Ted is are really slimy, backstabbing neocon, who will say or do anything to get elected. He is Ron Paul's biggest mistake.

Rubio is basically Cuban Obama.

Trump is Pat Buchanan if he was crossed with Michael Bloomberg and George Lincoln Rockwell.

Carson is a good man, but will be led by "the experts"...

Bush...is Bush. Also a good man, but not a man of Liberty at all.

The rest are essentially done.

The Constitution Party seem appealing, but they are only half right, for all of the wrong reasons. I don't want a theocracy, or protectionism. I want to be left alone!

The Libertarian Party would seem like the logical choice...but honestly, they are as bad ares Cruz. They brag about not supporting Paul, they actively hurt him in fact. Their message is being subverted by fedora wearing social justice warriors. They are also half right...for all the wrong reasons. The drug war shouldn't be abandoned because it doesn't work. It should be abandoned because it violates basic human liberty and the Constitution. When is the last time you heard the LP defend the Constitution...as opposed to hearing them try to use the Constitution to defend their positions.

I don't know who to vote for. It can't be the Dems. It won't be the Repubs. Not pro-choice hippy Gary Johnson. Not a 'Constitutionalist' theocratic from the CP. I just can't.

I guess I'll be writing in Paul then. But then what...how long do I have to live ignored and unrepresented? God I hate stupid people so, so much.

we have been here a while and I don't forsee us going anywhere.

 

[VIDEODROME]

Can I state the obvious choice?



VERMIN SUPREME forums!

 

[Chieppa1]

Is Deez Nuts still running?

 

[Spikender]

Is Deez Nuts still running?

Hopefully they'll run right into Sanders's mouth.

 

[69360]

I would assume it stays unless the current owner decides to sell.

 

[wizardwatson]

Well, probably just more hot topics thread bumps. And less arguing about Rand. Other than that, I imagine, same ole same ole.

But I wouldn't rebrand. Keep it ronpaulforums. He is still the standard bearer, and countless times we have to remind people it seems that "yes, you can be principled to your bones" and often when people get too wonky on their thoughts it's useful to keep referencing him, so having the site named after the standard bearer is a plus.

I like "liberty forest" too, but it seems a lot of people have wishy washy definitions of liberty (ex. Trumpaloompas confusing "prosperity" with liberty), so still even with "liberty" we need Ron to say precisely what we mean when we say "liberty".

I'm sticking around. I dropped $20 a month ago on this place. In my world of stingy cheapness, that is a significant investment.