So, they're executing some guy in Arkansas tonight

[susano]

I think it's Arkansas, anyway. Every so often when these executions take place, there's a big controversy about what they're going to use. A couple of times the cocktail failed and it had to be done over. This guy is getting nitrogen gas (!!!) and my question is why in the hell is this happening when one OD of fentanyl would do it, instantly. There's certainly an abundant supply (even hospital grade legal). I find this really bizarre and it's been going on for years. Like are these prison people a bunch of retards or amateur chemists experimenting or what? Don't you think it's strange? Anyone who's had surgery knows there are drugs that will put someone under in a second and just a little more and you're not coming back. What's up with this?

 

[cjm]

Adrenochrome?

 

[susano]

Adrenochrome?

OMG, haha! I'm still not convinced by those theories.

Seriously, though, TV just said the guy is dead and while I totally get "kill it" - even though I'm not in favor of the death penalty - I don't understand this weirdness over what to use.

 

[ClaytonB]

OMG, haha! I'm still not convinced by those theories.

Seriously, though, TV just said the guy is dead and while I totally get "kill it" - even though I'm not in favor of the death penalty - I don't understand this weirdness over what to use.

Sadly, the general public still has quite the latent thirst for human suffering, just consider the massive popularity of The Purge franchise. People like to fantasize about somebody else going through unimaginable agony. I don't get it. But it is a fact of carnal human nature. So the political will to make executions clean is very weak. "Make sure he suffers on the way out. Count it and make sure it's the full amount you stated." Many people like the fact that that possibility exists and they either don't understand or don't care about the ramification should the tyrannical State one day turn its gaze upon them. Their headspace is trapped in some weird bubble where tyrannies are just fictional stories that don't actually happen for real. Once again, I don't get it.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Utah still has firing squad as a method.

 

[susano]

Kenneth Eugene Smith has become the first person in history to be executed with nitrogen gas.

The convicted killer, 58, had a tight gas mask placed over his nose and mouth before a stream of 100 percent nitrogen gas suffocated him inside the execution chamber at the William C. Holman prison in Atmore, Alabama.

Smith was officially pronounced dead at 8:25 local time, following a 22-minute ordeal where he appeared to remain conscious for several minutes. He shook violently and pulled on the restraints on the gurney, continuing to breathe the nitrogen gas heavily until he succumbed and passed out.

In his final words, delivered through the gas mask on his face, Smith said: 'Tonight Alabama causes humanity to take a step backwards... I’m leaving with love, peace and light.'

He made an 'I love you sign' with his hands to his family in the witness box before he was strapped down, adding: 'Thank you for supporting me. Love, love all of you.'

He was sentenced to death in 1996 for the murder-for-hire slaying of a preacher's wife in 1988, where he was paid just $1,000 for the hit.

The historic execution divided opinions, including among Supreme Court justices who voted 6-3 to allow the procedure to go ahead, with the untested method previously branded 'torture' by the UN.

Smith's execution marked the first time a new method had been used on America's death row since lethal injections were first introduced 42 years ago.

But one of the primary reasons Alabama has turned to nitrogen gas for Smith's execution has been the widespread struggles American prisons have had in obtaining lethal injection drugs in recent years.

Before his final appeal was rejected by the Supreme Court, Smith's pastor told DailyMail.com he was 'putting a lot of hope into this thing being stopped' - after his previous scheduled execution in November 2022 was called off after painful hours of botched attempts to inject him with an IV line.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13008191/Kenneth-Eugene-Smith-nitrogen-executed-first.html

I find it nearly impossible to buy that a state prison cannot order any drug. It sounds like bullshit to me. And, WTF on the botched IV line??? Is it that they can't get trained people to do it?

There are sure people whose crimes I read about who deserved their fate, even though I oppose it, but the way it's done sounds like the Three Stooges are in charge.

 

[susano]

Utah still has firing squad as a method.

I remember when Gary Gilmore was executed there. I'm shocked that's still in use.

 

[Occam's Banana]

[...] after his previous scheduled execution in November 2022 was called off after painful hours of botched attempts to inject him with an IV line.

https://twitter.com/CreepyOrg/status/1750432957079142418

 

[TheCount]

I find it nearly impossible to buy that a state prison cannot order any drug. It sounds like bullshit to me.

The company that makes pentobarbital doesn't want their drugs being used to kill people. They're very restrictive as to how they sell it and to whom.


Also, we found out that the older drug cocktail didn't actually sedate you, it just prevented you from screaming while you died in agony.

 

[susano]

The company that makes pentobarbital doesn't want their drugs being used to kill people. They're very restrictive as to how they sell it and to whom.


Also, we found out that the older drug cocktail didn't actually sedate you, it just prevented you from screaming while you died in agony.

I don't know why they just can't give the inmate a handful of sleeping pills. Any prison could certainly get those.

The whole thing is sick and a real stain on our country, imo. I don't think most people agree, though.

 

[TheCount]

I don't know why they just can't give the inmate a handful of sleeping pills. Any prison could certainly get those.

The whole thing is sick and a real stain on our country, imo. I don't think most people agree, though.

It's absolutely a stain on our country.

People mostly argue about whether or not we should execute people at all, not the precise method. Many of those in favor of the death penalty are probably not too concerned about being humane to death row inmates, and those against are never going to support any method

As for the pills, probably because it's not 100% effective. Having someone survive an execution attempt is the worst case scenario.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Utah still has firing squad as a method.

All 50 states should have that as a method.

 

[Philhelm]

All 50 states should have that as a method.

Setting aside the argument of whether the death penalty should exist, I think that the simple solution would be to allow the condemned to choose their method of execution from a list of sanctioned execution methods (to avoid crazy requests like being fed to lions or dropped into a volcano, etc.).

 

[unknown]

Probably some kind of warning to the plebs of the not so distant future for anyone who challenges the Globalists.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Setting aside the argument of whether the death penalty should exist, I think that the simple solution would be to allow the condemned to choose their method of execution from a list of sanctioned execution methods (to avoid crazy requests like being fed to lions or dropped into a volcano, etc.).

Dropping someone into a volcano isn't a crazy request in my view. That method should be reserved for our politicians.

 

[unknown]

Dropping someone into a volcano isn't a crazy request in my view. That method should be reserved for our politicians.

That's pretty good.

How about being forced to service fat chics?

 

[Pauls' Revere]

All 50 states should have that as a method.

The Guillotine is quite effective.

Hamida Djandoubi
The last official death by guillotine was of Hamida Djandoubi, a convicted murderer put to death on September 10, 1977 [6]. His execution was also the last in Western Europe [6].

"The Most Gentle of Lethal Methods": The Question of Retained Consciousness Following Decapitation

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar... last official death by,in Western Europe [6].

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Setting aside the argument of whether the death penalty should exist, I think that the simple solution would be to allow the condemned to choose their method of execution from a list of sanctioned execution methods (to avoid crazy requests like being fed to lions or dropped into a volcano, etc.).

Crash test dummy?

 

[Philhelm]

Crash test dummy?

Sanctioned.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Setting aside the argument of whether the death penalty should exist, I think that the simple solution would be to allow the condemned to choose their method of execution from a list of sanctioned execution methods (to avoid crazy requests like being fed to lions or dropped into a volcano, etc.).

The people who argue in favor of the death penalty generally cling onto the idea that people don't want it so for whatever reason it will decrease murders, etc. even though evidence doesn't show that.

But giving people the choice of how they want to be executed would make it less effective working from that premise.

The only solution is that the state shouldn't have this power.