So The Attacks on RP begin

[Sean]

Absolutely. She's probably reading these boards and is thrilled to death that she's got 50% of the people yammering about changing the day.

If you change the day you'll kill the spontanaeity of it. It's that simple.

Did anybody read the comments on Malkins' board? ONe guy immediately accused of us being a lot of conspiracy theorists (yawn...) but then went right into a thought that it was actually going to be one person donating a lot of money, but breaking it down into $100 lots to hide it.

WTF?

Yep, she would like us to all go home and hide because we support a "nut", "kook" who wants to actually cut federal government and give us back our Constitutional rights. We would be ok if we supported a cross dressing thrice divorced Rudy who is anti-2nd and 1st Amendment, anti-life, pro nation building, big government and pro entitlement spending. People must realize as a Republican more and more of us are seeing these fools for who they are. They say one thing and do another. Ron Paul says one thing and does it. That is why they are afraid of him. Do not take advice from his detractors.

 

[Sean]

By the way if Ron does get money on the 5th of November they will call on him to give it back. Ron Paul will politely tell them to go to hell because he is never intimidated by these fools.

 

[Seth M.]

Malkin....

What a stupid ass. Rudy's 9/11 fundraiser was sanctioned by the campaign. Ron probably doesn't even know about the Nov. 5th idea. And Ron's campaign sure as hell didn't come up with the idea.

Malkin is a putred human being. Everything she says is complete shit. And yet she continues, spewing this kind of garbage, with every breath she steals our air. Don't give her website any hits, none. Your IQ will bottom out if you read anything this demonic harpey writes.

I agree 100%

Everyone should keep it positive learn from Ron...

Ron turned Rudys "thass extraordinary ssatement" into "youre right it is..." a positive

We turned Nazis "He needs to be removed" into "remove yourself"... and gathered more support all the while. a positive


Learn how Dr Paul talks and thinks.. stop reacting with emotional outbursts like they want.. We should be efficiently moving forward with every direct action.. that doesnt mean ignore critics or lies... it means chew it up and spit out support and positivity. Direct actions you can be proud of. /end rant

aravoth is right though
and threads like this only seek do divide supporters and support. we know they don't want Dr Paul resting his head on a pillow in the White House. They will try everything. They will reside here and seek war also. divide and conquer

WWRPD? Think about it.

 

[davidhperry]

What is the advantage of directly tying it to the movie? It's not like it's going to make people donate more since it's related to V. Couldn't it be an unofficial reason - one where you have to be "in the know" to even realize it? That way, it makes both camps happy.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=26923

 

[robatsu]

I'm doing what I can to promote 11/5 as a mass donation day. I could care less about the symbolism, but think a focused donation day, especially in early November, is a real good idea. I personally don't think the v/vendetta stuff is a good idea, so I'm not pushing that angle w/anybody I know. I suppose others are free to do so, but I'm just choosing to ignore it.

 

[Ozwest]

November 5 is a statement from people who have been treated by some as "fringe dwellers". I think you might be surprised by the money raised...

 

[LukeNM]

I mentioned this a week or so ago -- I agree with Veterans Day too! This "V" thing is not good, unless that is how some of you kooks think? Destruction from within -- was this started by a troll? I am giving my $100 on November 11th…

 

[TheIndependent]

Honestly, how many of us said this. The mainstream media will make us look like kooks wearing masks

Talk about destroying our campaign from the inside
Sometimes our worst enemy is our own supporters

I agree with Veterans Day - that way, we can also talk about the military support for Ron Paul! not to mention RP's support for the military men and women!

Should have been Vet's Day from the start. I was one of those who disagreed with this Nov 5th idea from the very beginning.

 

[TruckinMike]

There are two types of people:

Thinkers and Do'ers

the do'ers started the Nov 5th fund raiser...

The thinkers just sat around and thought...and thought... and then became more and more paranoid by the second.

This push is the biggest and most motivating I've seen yet... besides... we are in the 4th quarter and we need a hell Mary pass...

PS- the media will use anything...the 5th, truthers, etc... Or we could just sit around like other campaigns and not do anything....but HHhhmm, that wouldn't work either...

What to do ...what to do???

Truckinmike

 

[Thom1776]

Who Cares About That Neo-Skank?

Most people can see that her hysterical ranting is just sour grapes.

Trying to smear Ron Paul in anyway by attacking people who favor him for president just doesn't work. The whole November 5th/Vendetta thing is no big deal either. Ron Paul will be receiving $200 from me and my girlfriend that day.

We will just keep marching forward to our goal of taking our country back.

These petty attacks mean NOTHING!

There is a very easy way to handle this, or any other pathetic attempt to drag us down.

"Ignore and Proceed, Ignore and Proceed, Ignore and Proceed"

We must IGNORE this crap and PROCEED to do what it takes to build Ron Paul's name recognition and let people know that they have a real choice this election.

 

[paulitics]

Trust me, it HELPS us when these neocon idiot bloggers critique our grassroots efforts. People don't trust them, and it creates buzz that will boost our donation on 11/5/07

not really, sometimes the image of movie obsessed guys taking it too far does its own damage. I don't care if it is Kieth Olbermann, Dan Rather, or Malken, I would be thinking the same thing. If I were to read the digg story, that WE put out, I would be thinking the same thing. Sorry, mixing movies with politics is a bad combination.

 

[Eli]

we'll continue doing what work. They'll spin it negatively no matter what we do so forget about them. We'll play the medias but not take their recommendations for becoming unactive.

 

[ValidusCustodiae]

Let's not forget

It may not but it's increasingly likely if we raise a large amount of money - it will be used as a way to explain away the fact that the campaign fundraising is picking up. It'll be along the lines of: "The Ron Paul campaign fundraising heats up as they draw comparisons to domestic terrorism."

Let's not forget that George Washington, Samuel Adams, Tom Paine, Patrick Henry, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, etc. were ALL considered terrorists by the very same government that considered Guy Fawkes a terrorist.

If you think the Nov. 5th idea sucks then how can you truly call yourself a patriot? We can't HIDE our past we need to be ready to DEFEND OUR POSITIONS not run away when someone accuses us of being in favor of terrorism! THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS EVENTUALLY ANYWAY, THATS WHY WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE INFORMATION WAR THAT IS NOW GOING ON! BE PREPARED!

 

[PaleoConservative]

wasn't there some quote that went along the lines of "the only thing worse then being talked about is not being talked about?"

Trust me folks, these guys are following the same play book they did with Buchanan in 1996!

The November 5th drive was about the move V for Vendetta right? I strongly urge people to watch that movie and not see some of the same problems we face today.
This wasn't about remembering the English nutcase from the 1600 or 1700's, it was based on the great movie.

Let them talk, they are scared to death and this is exactly what we want.

I don't know if I can afford 100, but I'll donate something november 5th.

 

[Ozwest]

There are two types of people:

Thinkers and Do'ers

the do'ers started the Nov 5th fund raiser...

The thinkers just sat around and thought...and thought... and then became more and more paranoid by the second.

This push is the biggest and most motivating I've seen yet... besides... we are in the 4th quarter and we need a hell Mary pass...

PS- the media will use anything...the 5th, truthers, etc... Or we could just sit around like other campaigns and not do anything....but HHhhmm, that wouldn't work either...

What to do ...what to do???

Truckinmike

On Ya TruckinMike!

 

[ValidusCustodiae]

The worst form

The worst form of hate is denunciation. Isn't it better to be simply hated by someone and have your opinion considered than to have your opinion minimized or ignored? The reason I bring this up is because Michelle Malkin would probably say those of us that are against our current system of government are just hateful. The same way O'Really says that people only attack bush because they hate him. Isn't it hateful to ignore the facts of our position and try to get others to do the same by portraying us as lunatics? Which, incidentally, is what some of the people on this board that disagree with us do. Whether you like it or not, right here on Ron Paul's message board, you're doing your best to stifle dissent.

 

[theprolific]

Most people can see that her hysterical ranting is just sour grapes.

Trying to smear Ron Paul in anyway by attacking people who favor him for president just doesn't work. The whole November 5th/Vendetta thing is no big deal either. Ron Paul will be receiving $200 from me and my girlfriend that day.

We will just keep marching forward to our goal of taking our country back.

These petty attacks mean NOTHING!

There is a very easy way to handle this, or any other pathetic attempt to drag us down.

"Ignore and Proceed, Ignore and Proceed, Ignore and Proceed"

We must IGNORE this crap and PROCEED to do what it takes to build Ron Paul's name recognition and let people know that they have a real choice this election.

Well said

 

[eloquensanity]

I honestly think that these people are afraid of freedom. It would make them have to make decisions for themselves with no parental figure to dictate to them what they are allowed to do.

I think they are so afraid that they won't be physically safe in a free society because they have scared themselves by discussing 'evil' none stop for the past 6 years.

Its kind of like when we were kids and told each other ghost stories till we would be afraid to go to sleep. Fear is very infectious.

..........Or maybe they just hate the constitution either way they certainly have an irrational fear of Dr Paul who doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

Probably best to ignore them and keep moving forward, if its just attention they seek like a naughty child having a tantrum then ignoring their rantings is probably the best way to go. JMO

 

[Pete]

OK, I've just read three threads about the V contribution drive. I am a very socially conservative guy in my 50s, to give you my perspective.

Younger Ron Paul supporters, identifying with themes in the V movie about throwing off an oppressive government, organized a November 5 fundraising day. Big deal. Nobody is talking about overthrowing the government. Guy Fawkes is also considered to be a hero by law-abiding Brits. The fundraising drive is symbolic and romantic.

If Michelle Malkin wants to make a mountain out of this, let her. Like many posters have said, the opposition is envious that Ron Paul's campaign generates so much passion and creativity. Whose every movement is Michelle following with fervent hopes of success. Rudy? Mitt? Don't make me laugh.