So now what?

[cajuncocoa]

I tried, I really did, to work within the GOP framework but the GOP just can't stand losing.

Losing fairly is one thing. You can just find out where you're lacking and concentrate there to do better next time. But being cheated out of legitimate victories, that's something altogether different. That, and knowing it will happen again every time you get close to victory is demoralizing. The GOP apologists on this board and those who are still in denial keep neg-repping me; I suppose they're hoping they can eventually discredit me...but the joke is on them. Long after I'm gone from this board they will still be wondering why their plan isn't working.

 

[angelatc]

It has become apparent that even when playing by the rules, the RNC will do ANYTHING to hold on to power, including changing or breaking it's own rules.
Is it REALLY a lost cause with the GOP? Is it just a pipe dream that we can somehow change the status quo from the inside?
Personally, I'm done with the GOP. After the strong arm tactics, the fraud, and the blatant use of power to ensure that things go exactly as they have planned, it is quite obvious that what we are doing isn't working within the structure of the system because the system simply adapts (see - lies, cheats and steals) to get the outcome it desires.
So now what?

What we need to do is keep going to meetings, keep getting ourselves elected to the local governing boards, county conventions, state conventions, national conventions, national committees, local offices, state offices, etc etc.

But as much as we yammer on about revolution, we really aren't willing to actually fight.

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

And some for Virgil Goode.

Shoot, maybe even some for Jill Stein.

 

[No1butPaul]

I believe, wholeheartedly, Romney is in complete control of the RNC, and that is why they are playing so dirty now, completely amoral ... imagine him as president. He needs to lose and we need to take over that apparatus.

It is that simple.

 

[angelatc]

There are 10's of thousands of GOP committee seats up for grabs at the local level every two years. The more seats that are won by liberty activists, obviously the better. But the fact is most of the people on here would prefer to spew their opinions on a web forum, then get up off their asses and run for office.

 

[No1butPaul]

There are 10's of thousands of GOP committee seats up for grabs at the local level every two years. The more seats that are won by liberty activists, obviously the better. But the fact is most of the people on here would prefer to spew their opinions on a web forum, then get up off their asses and run for office.

We will, when we recover. We do have to stop Romney or we won't be able to work through the GOP.

 

[sailingaway]

I honestly think there will be time for post mortums when it is over. I think we may work on more than one front, going forward, but right now our delegates are fighting literally tyranical rule changes in Tampa, and Ron is speaking Sunday, and we ARE the GOP in multiple states.

Beyond that... I'm going to focus on going forward after Tampa, more after Tampa.

 

[Travlyr]

The liberty movement should be taking-over both the Republican and Democrat Parties. There is no right-left paradigm. Take them both and defeat the oligarchy.

 

[Sematary]

So now what?

Have the Delegates Voted? Did I miss something??
I know a LOT of negativity is being pushed,, and a LOT of disinformation.

It seems to be targeted at delegates to make them give up before the vote,,
If they just give up and go home then the vote can be taken without them,, of if so discouraged they may vote for the Status Quo as it is the only choice left.

I'm waiting for the vote, Hoping for a pleasant surprise.

Next week,,will be based on the outcome,, not on the speculation.

So, the RNC STOLE our delegates and changed the rules to ENSURE a Romney victory and I'm supposed to think what? Personally, I'm hoping that the Ron Paul delegates and alternates cause a ruckus the msm can't ignore.

 

[No1butPaul]

The liberty movement should be taking-over both the Republican and Democrat Parties. There is no right-left paradigm. Take them both and defeat the oligarchy.

Yep

 

[Sematary]

What we need to do is keep going to meetings, keep getting ourselves elected to the local governing boards, county conventions, state conventions, national conventions, national committees, local offices, state offices, etc etc.

But as much as we yammer on about revolution, we really aren't willing to actually fight.

I'm just wondering if there is a better way to fight.

 

[MarcusI]

All in all this campaign was very successful in gaining powerful positions. The mistreatment even caused solidarity under non-Liberty-minded People like Gov. LePage (Kudos for him).

I still dont understand how (by which accusations) the RNC did manage to destroy the Maine (Remember MAINE!) and Louisiana delegations. But surely, next time we will have more liberty-minded partisan judges, etc. And better chances to win a single primary in a state, which hasn't been done yet.

 

[tod evans]

I'm just wondering if there is a better way to fight.

That isn't morally repugnant......

Or illegal.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

So now what?

Join the libertarian party. Vote for Johnson.
We all need to..
If your not willing to switch to the LP, please vote for Johnson in the general.
He might not be Ron Paul.. but he is hell of a lot better then Romney or Obama.

I am a Libertarian. I joined the GOP in 2007 to vote for Ron Paul because he was going to bring libertarian ideas to the mainstream.
That time is over, we need to return to the LP. We would be welcomed with open arms instead of having to fight tooth and nail for scraps.

 

[Sematary]

Join the libertarian party. Vote for Johnson.
We all need to..
If your not willing to switch to the LP, please vote for Johnson in the general.
He might not be Ron Paul.. but he is hell of a lot better then Romney or Obama.

I am a Libertarian. I joined the GOP in 2007 to vote for Ron Paul because he was going to bring libertarian ideas to the mainstream.
That time is over, we need to return to the LP. We would be welcomed with open arms instead of having to fight tooth and nail for scraps.

Except that the corruption of the Dems and the Pubs has created scenario where all third party candidates are blocked from getting anywhere near the American public and thus have no chance whatsoever.

 

[Sematary]

That isn't morally repugnant......

Or illegal.

Or end up getting you branded a terrorist, thrown into an 8x8 cell without charge and disappeared for life.

 

[Carlybee]

Doesn't seem to be much gain from winning positions when the RNC is able to strip the power from those positions arbitrarily. It is being reported that due to Isaac, Romney will be nominated early. How convenient.
People here need to stop assuming that the whole of the liberty movement is on board with staying in the Republican party.

 

[Smitty]

Join the libertarian party. Vote for Johnson.
We all need to..
If your not willing to switch to the LP, please vote for Johnson in the general.
He might not be Ron Paul.. but he is hell of a lot better then Romney or Obama.

I am a Libertarian. I joined the GOP in 2007 to vote for Ron Paul because he was going to bring libertarian ideas to the mainstream.
That time is over, we need to return to the LP. We would be welcomed with open arms instead of having to fight tooth and nail for scraps.

I totally agree.

The Libertarian party is the best tool available to us.

 

[tod evans]

I totally agree.

The Libertarian party is the best tool available to us.

One issue with this....Ron Paul has chosen the republican venue.

 

[Travlyr]

Join the libertarian party. Vote for Johnson.
We all need to..
If your not willing to switch to the LP, please vote for Johnson in the general.
He might not be Ron Paul.. but he is hell of a lot better then Romney or Obama.

I am a Libertarian. I joined the GOP in 2007 to vote for Ron Paul because he was going to bring libertarian ideas to the mainstream.
That time is over, we need to return to the LP. We would be welcomed with open arms instead of having to fight tooth and nail for scraps.

Let's build more prisons to handle the prison problem and hand the rest of the prisons to the Corporations. Yeah... that's the solution. Vote for Gary Johnson.