So much wealth in Orange County?

Look, you can avoid this by not insulting liberals all the time, it's degrading and it's offensive. I do take personal offense to it. When I come back with anything, you apparently get equally offended.

You asked me to put that in my signature, so I did.

I didn't ever say I made up facts, I generally try to avoid that.

I told you what Liberalism is...

If I called Conservatism Fascism, if you feel you are conservative, you would defend against it.

you are being intentionally dishonest, which makes you a liar.
 
you aren't this stupid.

Do those cities represent your views of liberalism yes or no

As a matter a fact, they do. Except for some of their more insidious economic controls.

I suppose I am stupid, allowing you avoid my question with one of your own. Doesn't matter to me, I'm not going to stand down when I see people like you pigeonholing liberals.

You are no different than Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh, and the rest of the Neo-con clowns.

They have stolen your philosophy, and they have stolen mine. You just like to facilitate on their side.
 
I am a proud liberal. I like the word, and I intend to keep it. I have no regrets and nothing to apologize for... why do I support Ron Paul? Because he is closest to what I believe...

Closer would be someone like Steve Kubby, but he has less than a Klondike bar's chance in hell.
 
As a matter a fact, they do. Except for some of their more insidious economic controls.

I suppose I am stupid, allowing you avoid my question with one of your own. Doesn't matter to me, I'm not going to stand down when I see people like you pigeonholing liberals.

You are no different than Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh, and the rest of the Neo-con clowns.

They have stolen your philosophy, and they have stolen mine. You just like to facilitate on their side.

I explained your question before you even posted evidence. The majority on your list are warm weather climates.

But who is facilitating whom now? Our federal government involves itself in everything - thanks to FDR. Maybe the richest areas bent over the quickest and were properly rewarded for it?

All I know is in a nation going to hell in a hand basket, you are trying to divide us up in red and blue states just as the neo-cons and FDR-liberals like to do.

ps. Thanks for removing your lie from your signature.
 
And on that note, I have brought a tremendous amount of people to this movement, defended it's more profound stances publicly in "enemy" territory, and used my exceptional online prowess to gather and maintain more than anyone else I know...

But I suppose when it's all said and done, that doesn't matter, because I'm a liberal..right?

I represent a different side of the coin, and a different approach, doesn't mean I'm not useful, or worthy for my views.

Classical Liberalism is a word invented by Neo-cons to take away from the meaning of Liberalism, so as to staple it on FDR and Wilson, and eventually the unexpected by whimsically targeted modern liberals.
 
I explained your question before you even posted evidence. The majority on your list are warm weather climates.

But who is facilitating whom now? Our federal government involves itself in everything - thanks to FDR. Maybe the richest areas bent over the quickest and were properly rewarded for it?

All I know is in a nation going to hell in a hand basket, you are trying to divide us up in red and blue states just as the neo-cons and FDR-liberals like to do.

ps. Thanks for removing your lie from your signature.

That doesn't explain why those places are also liberal...

You are never going to convince me that San Francisco bends over to anyone....well, metaphorically speaking... yikes.

I don't recall them being the bastion of government authority.
 
And on that note, I have brought a tremendous amount of people to this movement, defended it's more profound stances publicly in "enemy" territory, and used my exceptional online prowess to gather and maintain more than anyone else I know...

But I suppose when it's all said and done, that doesn't matter, because I'm a liberal..right?

I represent a different side of the coin, and a different approach, doesn't mean I'm not useful, or worthy for my views.

Classical Liberalism is a word invented by Neo-cons to take away from the meaning of Liberalism, so as to staple it on FDR and Wilson, and eventually the unexpected by whimsically targeted modern liberals.

I'm not sure what your point is.

Do you see a mob of flaming pitchforks running behind you? You tried to claim superiority based on wealth distribution and I laughed it off.

Nobody is running you out of here.
 
Ummmmmmm Orange County is considered conservative by most people. Hollywood, San Francisco are liberal yes. But not Orange County. My point being in this thread is that some people, Americans I don't think really realize just how much wealth exists out there. I never did having grown up in St. Louis. We had pockets of nice areas and "wealthy" people but nothing like what's out here in OC. Yes the weather is awesome and everybody wants to live here. My point being was that if you don't think the income gap in the US is growing at an alarming rate just come out here to SoCal. I mean are there that many jobs that pay six figures out here? What I'm also finding out is that a home that was selling for 800K right now only cost about 400-500K 5 years ago. Housing is so overinflated out here it's crazy. But people are still shopping like crazy too. That's what I don't understand. I mean even rich people have to watch their pocket book when a downturn in the economy happens no?
 
I'm not sure what your point is.

Do you see a mob of flaming pitchforks running behind you? You tried to claim superiority based on wealth distribution and I laughed it off.

Nobody is running you out of here.

Maybe they just have more time on their hands to think about things...

I correlate the most intelligent people with the wealthiest and most likely to be liberal... I didn't assume you thought they would be wealthy because of their investments in the government. I don't think that is the case.

Considering the amount of hate and fan mail I get, I imagine always on the verge of some Mods crosshairs.

The injustice of it will be that they will probably delete the incriminating evidence and say I violated some obscure forum rule.
 
That liberalism has been pigeon-holed to represent socialism and/or communism or even the New Deal policies of FDR or the globalist and bank fiend Wilson is a tragedy of the inability of Conservatives to read above Neo-con influence. It was a product of Strauss, his words, that you are now uttering.

When you attempt to seek equality of opportunity through government intervention, FDR will eventually be a result.

I'm sorry that you can't reconcile your own failed idealogy, but that's the fact jack.
 
Ummmmmmm Orange County is considered conservative by most people. Hollywood, San Francisco are liberal yes. But not Orange County. My point being in this thread is that some people, Americans I don't think really realize just how much wealth exists out there. I never did having grown up in St. Louis. We had pockets of nice areas and "wealthy" people but nothing like what's out here in OC. Yes the weather is awesome and everybody wants to live here. My point being was that if you don't think the income gap in the US is growing at an alarming rate just come out here to SoCal. I mean are there that many jobs that pay six figures out here? What I'm also finding out is that a home that was selling for 800K right now only cost about 400-500K 5 years ago. Housing is so overinflated out here it's crazy. But people are still shopping like crazy too. That's what I don't understand. I mean even rich people have to watch their pocket book when a downturn in the economy happens no?

he makes up stuff to further his argument.
 
Ummmmmmm Orange County is considered conservative by most people. Hollywood, San Francisco are liberal yes. But not Orange County. My point being in this thread is that some people, Americans I don't think really realize just how much wealth exists out there. I never did having grown up in St. Louis. We had pockets of nice areas and "wealthy" people but nothing like what's out here in OC. Yes the weather is awesome and everybody wants to live here. My point being was that if you don't think the income gap in the US is growing at an alarming rate just come out here to SoCal. I mean are there that many jobs that pay six figures out here? What I'm also finding out is that a home that was selling for 800K right now only cost about 400-500K 5 years ago. Housing is so overinflated out here it's crazy. But people are still shopping like crazy too. That's what I don't understand. I mean even rich people have to watch their pocket book when a downturn in the economy happens no?

You are correct, the disparity in wealth is absolutely overwhelming, and it is contrary to principles of liberty, a select few have certain advantage that are not accessible by all of us, a truly free market might fix this, but that is not going to happen anytime soon.

In this regards, the disparity in places like Germany and Switzerland isn't nearly as bad.
 
he makes up stuff to further his argument.

It's fun to go the route of the neo-con isn't it? Just throwing up insults whenever you think it suits you? Just kinda let them hang up there, see if they stick.

ARealNeoConservative.
 
you made up stuff to fit your argument.

My argument was that the wealthiest cities were liberal, I don't see where I made stuff up? I gave you a link to Forbes.

If I'm wrong, than I'm wrong, that doesn't mean I made anything up.
 
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Filthy rich enclaves are just a symptom of the Federal Reserve System's inflationary "prosperity". The new money gravitates towards $1 million homes, gucci handbags, dog umbrella stands, and expensive sports cars, while the lower class eats it with inflated prices of staple goods and everyday needs.
 
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