So Mitt, you want my vote in the general election? Here is my price:

[alucard13mmfmj]

So, you're thinking, stay home, or vote Gary Johnson? Ron Paul gets nothing. The VP sucks. Romney or Obama win, and we accomplished what exactly?

Often, the number 2 guy gets something. We want to get that thing. Santorum probably thinks that he's the number 2 guy and that he should get something. There's a solid reason for him to think that. He won more states than we did, but I think that we took a lot of his delegates.

We might be able to get Rand Paul in there. Which would be a HUGE VICTORY. So I think we should try to go for that. In case black swan happens, we need our delegates there, but it's kinda crazy to say that a black swan will happen. And that's what we're currently doing.

Scenario 1
"Keep Fighting for Ron Paul"
"Why?"
"He can win. He will win."
"You're crazy, goodbye."

Scenario 2
"Keep Fighting for Ron Paul"
"Why?"
"We need a lot of delegates there to put pressure on Mitt Romney. We will be in Tampa, ready, willing and able to cause a lot of trouble in truly clever and interesting ways that will make the tv audience like Ron Paul and hate Mitt Romney.
None of this fun stuff that we have planned will happen if Mitt Romney picks Rand."
"That is rational, it would be fun to watch the skits we have planned, the chants, the signage, on tv. And it would be even better if Rand was picked, which Romney should do anyway, because he brings in both tea party and Ron Paul supporters, and Romney is very weak with both groups. I'm in."

Scenario 2 is the better one.

I agree. Supporters/delegates spent way too much time to walk away with nothing. Speaking time of 15minutes that may or may not have technical difficulties. Party platform that may or may not be followed or may be flip flopped.

Anyways.. get as many delegates as we can and see what we can get. We just don't know what will happen at the convention.

I don't think Rand being VP pick is enough for anyone on this forum or any of the hardcore RP supporters. We want more... probably a few cabinent positions to be filled by people of our choice. Probably endorsement of a few selected liberty candidates running for state office or house/congress. Even then, support would be "meh".

Rand or Ron as VP = useless position but good educational tool/platform. Preach liberty to tens of millions of people/americans.

 

[Thrashertm]

Not for sale.

 

[Working Poor]

here's mine:

1) Run on Ron Paul's platform and policies. ALL of them. Every last one. Since you have changed your positions in the past, it'll be easy enough for you to do it again and claim that you "saw the light" and were convinced to do the will of the people. Otherwise, you have no leg to stand on against obomba in a debate, and will not win an election against him. You will have to then actually follow your stated platform, or you will be primaried and fired in 2016.

2) Pick Rand Paul as your running mate. Surely this came up in your little meeting with him, and most likely the two of you have already worked out some sort of deal. Due to his age, Ron will not be in as good of a position to primary you in 2016 as Rand will be, should you fail to follow the platform you campaign on. Rand can either run in 2020 as the successor to your highly successful and popular administration, or he can resign in 2015 and take you out in the primaries.

3) Ron gets a prominent position of his choosing in your administration, and gets to choose ALL of your cabinet position picks. ALL of them. This includes SC nominations.

Do it, and you will not only get to go down as the most popular President in modern history, but you will also get a second term. Rand will be able to then run in 2020, and Republicans will have the White House for the next 16 years at least. You get to win. The Republican party gets to win. The American people get to win. It's a win-win situation all around. Do it, and you can't lose.

Don't do it, and you do lose. You won't get my vote. You'll never defeat obomba. You'll be nothing more than a footnote in history, instead of history itself.

You have to remember who owns Mitt Romney the same people that call RP unelectable. I am sure if RP looked like Romney he would have won. The republicans want a figure head not someone who has an original thought.

 

[Fort Lauderdale]

BARACK OBAMA'S AMERICAN JOBS ACT THAT WAS BLOCKED BY THE REPUBLICANS

FULL BILL - OCTOBER 11, 2011
TEACHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS - OCTOBER 17, 2011
INFRASTRUCTURE - OCTOBER 31, 2011

BILLS PASSED BY REPUBLICAN HOUSE

REPEALING THE HEALTH CARE LAW
DEFUNDING NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO
NO TAXPAYER FUNDING FOR THE ABORTION ACT
ENFORCEMENT OF ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHT BULB STANDARDS

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47743523/#47730162

 

[parocks]

I agree. Supporters/delegates spent way too much time to walk away with nothing. Speaking time of 15minutes that may or may not have technical difficulties. Party platform that may or may not be followed or may be flip flopped.

Anyways.. get as many delegates as we can and see what we can get. We just don't know what will happen at the convention.

I don't think Rand being VP pick is enough for anyone on this forum or any of the hardcore RP supporters. We want more... probably a few cabinent positions to be filled by people of our choice. Probably endorsement of a few selected liberty candidates running for state office or house/congress. Even then, support would be "meh".

Rand or Ron as VP = useless position but good educational tool/platform. Preach liberty to tens of millions of people/americans.

VP = Rand is in a better position for President.

 

[affa]

i won't vote for Romney under any circumstances. None.

 

[Peace Piper]

I won't be voting for Mr. Etch a Sketch either under any circumstances. He's like a caricature of a politician.

His adviser came right out and said: ""I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes," Fehrnstrom responded. "It's almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up, and we start all over again."
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-03-21/...ic-fehrnstrom-general-election?_s=PM:POLITICS

"It's almost like an Etch A Sketch"???

Almost?

Who would believe a single word uttered from him or any of those that would speak for him? The same type of people that fell for one of the greatest scam artists of our time, Barack Hussein Obama.

These pros must laugh their asses off at people when the cameras turn off.

Maybe that's why Barry wears that sickening grin everywhere he goes- even he can't believe people keep listening.

This is the guy that convinced so called "Progressives" that mandatory purchase of corporate junk insurance was a good thing. And the lemmings rolled.

And the alternative is Romney? What a circus.

 

[jonruh52]

I'll be voting for Gary Johnson no matter what Romney does. Johnson has a proven track record and he's polling at 7% nationally. If we can get his polling numbers up to 15% then they will have to invite him to the debates and he might actually have a shot at that point. A slim shot, but at least a shot. Even then if he loses at least it will put the Libertarian platform in peoples minds. If he gets into those debates it might be the first time most Americans hear Libertarian principles (since Ron was censored so much).

 

[Bruehound]

Ron Paul as Speaker of the House would be my price and no, the Speaker does not need to be a sitting member of the House.

 

[SilenceDewgooder]

I will not cast a vote for the lesser of 2 evils and since we're talking about Obamney, is there a lesser?

 

[sailingaway]

I agree. Supporters/delegates spent way too much time to walk away with nothing. Speaking time of 15minutes that may or may not have technical difficulties. Party platform that may or may not be followed or may be flip flopped.

Anyways.. get as many delegates as we can and see what we can get. We just don't know what will happen at the convention.

I don't think Rand being VP pick is enough for anyone on this forum or any of the hardcore RP supporters. We want more... probably a few cabinent positions to be filled by people of our choice. Probably endorsement of a few selected liberty candidates running for state office or house/congress. Even then, support would be "meh".

Rand or Ron as VP = useless position but good educational tool/platform. Preach liberty to tens of millions of people/americans.

I might actually vote for Ron as VP and see what he does with it, but only Ron. And we would nominate him as VP on our own voting strength at Tampa to underline his independence.

 

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul as Speaker of the House would be my price and no, the Speaker does not need to be a sitting member of the House.

I like that even better.

I find both of my conditions highly unlikely, though, so feel pretty safe that I won't be voting for Romney -- or more accurately, for Ron as part of a ticket.

 

[specsaregood]

I might actually vote for Ron as VP and see what he does with it, but only Ron.

Despite any deniers, I think the vast majority of paul supporters would vote for a Romney/RonPaul ticket.

 

[sailingaway]

Despite any deniers, I think the vast majority of paul supporters would vote for a Romney/RonPaul ticket.

the thing is, I am pretty sure I couldn't keep myself from voting for RON. The other guy would just be on Ron's ticket. Obama wouldn't have that advantage. And I literally think there is little difference between Romney and Obama.

But I consider the liklihood pretty slim it will come up.

 

[SilenceDewgooder]

the thing is, I am pretty sure I couldn't keep myself from voting for RON. The other guy would just be on Ron's ticket. Obama wouldn't have that advantage. And I literally think there is little difference between Romney and Obama.

But I consider the liklihood pretty slim it will come up.

Aren't most things in American history taught as being a pretty slim chance? But dont know if I could vote for Romney knowing that Ron would be locked away in a closet.

 

[EBounding]

Ron's more likely to win the nomination than to be selected as VP. But it's definitely a ticket I would vote for. I would campaign for it too and just ignore the "Romney" part of the ticket.

Romney/Rand? Eh, not so much.

 

[sailingaway]

Aren't most things in American history taught as being a pretty slim chance? But dont know if I could vote for Romney knowing that Ron would be locked away in a closet.

I'd have to think of Ron as insurance against Romney doing something that would make Ron resign publicly, which I honestly think is more like Ron than staying in any closet people think they have put him into.

Essentially, Ron has in thirty years never betrayed his principles, and I would wait until he actually did so before I'll lose faith that he will stay true to them.

But there are some who might not vote for Romney even then, and I understand that, I just come down here.

 

[angelatc]

I'm going to try this yet another time.

Many people here insist on staying in the Republican Party.

Ron Paul has said that's the correct plan, and it seems to be working pretty well, although probably not as quick as we would like.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

I might actually vote for Ron as VP and see what he does with it, but only Ron. And we would nominate him as VP on our own voting strength at Tampa to underline his independence.

Yeah.. this is IF Ron gets nominated onto the floor and Romney allows it, but Ron still lost.

I won't accept it if ROmney just picks Ron or Rand as VP at the start because of a backroom deal.

I MIGHT accept it if Ron gets a chance to be nominated and allowing all delegates to be unbound, but we still lost. Then I am willing to take what is the next best thing. Might......

Even if Ron as VP under Romney lost... media cannot ignore Ron as the GOP VP.

I just hope we got enough delegates to get something from out of this circus.

 

[specsaregood]

Ron Paul has said that's the correct plan, and it seems to be working pretty well, although probably not as quick as we would like.

Im pretty amazed at how fast we have made such progress this year. The key will be if we can keep it in the off presidential-run years.