So it begins: "Man arrested for having too much ammo"

[Minarchy4Sale]

Massholes. Enough said.

 

[asimplegirl]

He wasn't a U.S. Citizen. Doesn't one need to be a U.S. Citizen to purchase firearms?

Strange case

Yes...and it appears that the real reason he was arrested and charged was:

Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm. His case was continued until June 12.

It was illegal for him to have any of the stuff he had. He did not get arrested for having too much ammo.

 

[akihabro]

This guy is the reason why there is no ammo at Wal-Mart! I believe my state allows non citizens to purchase firearms. He should have chose to live in a better state. His wife sold him out! She consented to a search, it doesn't say they got a search warrant.

 

[akihabro]

Also, I encourage you all to buy as much ammo as you can afford weekly. See if you can beat this man's stash!

Do we need to keep it all in our trunk?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Sounds like maybe the guy was selling the ammo to friends in the Dominican Republic.

Still, nothing wrong with that though. I don't see what law he broke.

Sounds like they want to go after him for exporting ammo...still, no reason for the initial arrest, so it looks like they are just searching for something to charge him with.

The prosecutor said all of the bullets seized from Garcia were for .38-caliber, 9 mm and .22-caliber firearms. Such ammunition is "like gold in the Dominican Republic," he said.

Holland said Reynoso told police he had "a shipping type of business" and that the $25,000 in cash must have come from Garcia cashing a business check.

 

[Matt Collins]

It is impossible to have "too much ammo"

Reminds me of Bert Gummer from the series Tremors:

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[sailor]

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never spoken to a German WWII vet of the eastern front.

They`re kind of hard to find after Red Army went through them.

 

[Uriel999]

It is impossible to have "too much ammo". Anyone who thinks otherwise has never spoken to a German WWII vet of the eastern front.

Western Front too, see D-Day. ON D-Day the Germans not only didn't have enough ammo to fight off the invading force (okay how could they it was ships even farther than they could see on the sea) but they were lacking ammo to hold the positions on Normandy Anyways. Normandy could have been even bloodier.

Do we need to keep it all in our trunk?

Well if ya got 30k rounds, might as well keep some on the car. Be ready for the zombie invasion at all times.

 

[robert4rp08]

Yes...and it appears that the real reason he was arrested and charged was:



It was illegal for him to have any of the stuff he had. He did not get arrested for having too much ammo.

I believe Federal Law says that one does not need to be a U.S. citizen to purchase a firearm so long as other requirements are satisfied. However, some states do require it or special permits. I am guessing he LEGALLY purchased all of his ammo and firearms in NH, but then got into trouble when moving them to Mass. where he could not legally possess them without a proper permit... but he had 60-days to acquire the proper permit(s). Whether or not his 60 days were up is unclear.

http://www.vrolyk.org/guns/alien-laws.html

 

[Cap]

Its pretty fucking odd to be carrying around 10,000 bottle caps too. So can I be arrested and convicted for carrying around 10,000 bottle caps? The man who arrested him just for having lots of ammo is a traitor and possibly should get life in prison for this because he is a traitor to the constitution (which gives us the right to as much ammo as we want be that a thousand rounds or a trillion rounds).

Its called the right to self defense and clearly more people need to learn about it because it should not be a limited right.

Thank you for stating this so emphatically.

 

[devil21]

Let's try to keep abreast of this case. If anybody comes across future updates PLEASE post them here. I can't see what laws were actually broken here, much less laws requiring a $500K bail!

 

[asimplegirl]

This guy is the reason why there is no ammo at Wal-Mart! I believe my state allows non citizens to purchase firearms. He should have chose to live in a better state. His wife sold him out! She consented to a search, it doesn't say they got a search warrant.

There are federal background checks for EVERY state in the union, and it is not up to the discretion of the state to determine if someone is eligible. If you are not eligible under federal standards when that call is made, it is illegal to buy,own, or possess said gun.

 

[asimplegirl]

I believe Federal Law says that one does not need to be a U.S. citizen to purchase a firearm so long as other requirements are satisfied. However, some states do require it or special permits. I am guessing he LEGALLY purchased all of his ammo and firearms in NH, but then got into trouble when moving them to Mass. where he could not legally possess them without a proper permit... but he had 60-days to acquire the proper permit(s). Whether or not his 60 days were up is unclear.

http://www.vrolyk.org/guns/alien-laws.html

U.S. Regulations For Non-Residents Purchasing And Importing Firearms And Ammunition
Canadian Firearms Program
In a Snapshot

This notice provides information on US regulations affecting Canadian residents who will be temporarily bringing firearms and ammunition into the U.S. or who wish to purchase firearms and ammunition while there. These regulations came into force February 19, 2002.
Regulations for Purchasing Firearms and Ammunition in the U.S.

The regulations generally make it unlawful for non-residents (non-immigrant aliens) to possess and receive firearms and ammunition in the U.S.
Exceptions for purchasing firearms and ammunition include the following:

1. Non-residents who have the firearm directly exported to Canada by a U.S. licensed firearms dealer;
2. Non-residents who have:

a) a valid U.S. State-issued hunting licence or permit or an invitation to a U.S. competitive sports-shooting event,

b) proof of residency in the U.S. for at least 90 days, and

c) an alien or admission number issued by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS);

3. Law enforcement officers in the U.S. on official business.

Additional Information

Non-residents who choose to have the Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) export their firearm directly to Canada do not require the hunting licence/permit, the alien or admission number, or the proof of 90-day residency.

However, when selling a firearm to a non-resident who is taking possession of the firearm and who will personally export it, the FFL must see a valid State-issued hunting licence or permit (unless the non-resident falls into another exception category, such as a diplomat or law enforcement officer.) Other accepted documentation, besides the hunting licence/permit, is an invitation to a competitive target or sport-shooting event, but the non-resident must meet the 90-day residency requirement. Re-enactors and sport shooters (not invited to a competition) will need to acquire a hunting licence. Most States issue hunting licences/permits to non-residents. The hunting licence or permit can be acquired in one U.S. State and the firearm can be purchased from an FFL in a different State.

All non-residents must provide an Immigration and Naturalization Service-issued alien number or admission number when purchasing a firearm from an FFL. If not already in possession of such a number, one can only be obtained from an INS inspector at a U.S. entry point. It cannot be obtained from within the U.S.

The 90-day residency requirement remains unchanged.
Regulations for Temporarily Importing Firearms and Ammunition into the U.S.

1. The non-resident must provide U.S. Customs with a pre-approved U.S. import permit and evidence that they fall into an exemption category (by providing a valid State hunting licence/permit or an invitation to compete in a target shooting event or to display firearms or ammunition at a sports or hunting trade show sponsored by a national, State or local firearms trade organization devoted to the competitive use or other sporting use of firearms) before they will be allowed to import firearms or ammunition.
2. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) issues the required import permit. This permit can be obtained by completing ATF Form 6NIA (Application and Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Nonimmigrant Aliens). It can take 6 to 12 weeks to process the application so the permit should be applied for well in advance.

*The application form for the import permit must be accompanied by a copy of a U.S. hunting licence or an invitation to a target/sport shooting competition.*

If a non-resident plans to attend numerous competitive target shooting events/sports or hunting or trade shows during the year, but does not expect to have invitations/registrations until shortly before each event, they may want to rely on the hunting licence exception. In other words, non-residents may want to provide ATF with a hunting licence along with their ATF Form 6NIA rather than invitations/registrations.

PLEASE NOTE: Non-residents do not need a U.S. export permit to export firearms or ammunition that were temporarily imported into the U.S. for an approved purpose.
New Form Issued for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Nonimmigrant Aliens

ATF has created a new application/permit for nonimmigrant aliens temporarily bringing firearms or ammunition into the United States for hunting or other lawful sporting purposes. The new application/permit is called ATF Form 6NIA (Application and Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Nonimmigrant Aliens). Click here for information, FAQs and the new form.
Information

If you have any questions about the regulations, please call the ATF Firearms and Explosives Imports Branch at (202) 927-8320. Information about the regulations is also available on the ATF Web site.

Hope that helps.

 

[BillyDkid]

They said they were all legally purchased in the article...

How can you possibly be arresting for possessing something you bought legally? It makes no sense whatsoever.