So is Bannon a racist? Yes or no?

I remember hearing as a kid that Reagan was heavily racist. Then every Republican and anyone who didn't agree with the DNC elite was racist. Against Obamacare or against gun control? You're a racist. Are you pro-life? You hate women. Are you Bernie or bust? Your privilege is showing. Americans have gone beyond finding this to be a mild annoyance and are actually pushing back. Good for them. I pray this leads to honest discussion
 
I think I disagree Gunny. I would say most are conscious about their racialism.

Maybe most of the Alt-Right adherents on RonPaulForums are conscious of it, but you forget, I have thousands and thousands of Republican friends and acquaintances from my political background, and may have some perspective on this. Of the roughly 3000 fedbook friends I have who ended up voting for Trump, maybe 2000 of those identify (at least loosely) with the current Alt-Right movement, and out of those 2000 maybe roughly 5 are stuvk on race.

So while your analysis may hold up on these forums, outside of this place I am seeing a very different story.

Sure, but with Ron, it was outrageously false. With the alt-right, its true.

Well, the vast vast majority of the people I know who are fond of this "Alt-Right" movement, are not themselves nor do they have anything to do with racists.

You do as you feel led, of course, but mark my words, just like the left's unsubstantiated cries of racism ended up bolstering the right to victory as so many accused knew that the charges against them were false and they got angry...in the same way if/when you accuse a non-racist alt-right sympathizer of 'racism,' all you are doing is pushing them further into that position out of a rejection of the rhetoric.

Are there actual racists in the Alt-Right and other movements? Sure. Individual racists whom you can only smoke out correctly on an individual basis. If, however, you collectivise a group as "racist" when maybe 65% of that group doesn't actually care about race, then you end up actually causing harm to YOUR position as the people being accused, knowing themselves that they are not racist, will retrench and double-down.

I used to preach to the left how accusing non-racists of being racists will lead to their utter defeat and they didn't believe me either. They, too tried to formulate arguments how "every conservative" was necessarily a racist (even if they themselves didn't know it). This is why they lost credibility. Too many people who have never had a racist thought in their lives getting accused of racism is going to inspire a knee-jerk. That's how humans work.

So I am going to pass that same warning on to right-wing nevertrumpers. If you are going to accuse someone of racism, make darn sure they are actually a racist, and if you accuse an entire movement of racism, make darn sure that movement is in fact at least 90% racist before you do, or all you will end up doing is digging your own grave.

Even if we assume that 75% of the Alt-Right is 'racist,' that still makes a blanket accusation counter-productive because the 75% won't care and the 25% are going to get pissed off and push back (by doubling down).
 
I remember hearing as a kid that Reagan was heavily racist. Then every Republican and anyone who didn't agree with the DNC elite was racist. Against Obamacare or against gun control? You're a racist. Are you pro-life? You hate women. Are you Bernie or bust? Your privilege is showing. Americans have gone beyond finding this to be a mild annoyance and are actually pushing back. Good for them. I pray this leads to honest discussion

If history repeats itself there'll be copious amounts of blood shed before any honest dialog is undertaken..
 
Everyone is prejudiced to some degree. Everyone pre-judges in every day behavior. "Racism" is just one of many, many different types of prejudice. No one has a monopoly on the word "prejudice."

If you are going to label someone, then you have to first define it. You then have to quantify it. Otherwise, it's emotional blathering.
 
I doubt that Bannon himself is a foaming-at-the-mouth white nationalist.

Though he, like Trumptard, is obviously pandering to the white nationalist rabble.
 
Good grief!

How old am I to where this bunch of kids is now considered "old school" ?

You young people today seem overly concerned about whether or not one group of people accepts another.....

People are different, different upbringings, races and nationalities, different sexual preferences and different religions, different hair styles and styles of dress.....Who cares!

I don't want to live in a world where any of these lines are blurred or eliminated, obfuscated or confounded, there can be no individuality with homogony.

Don't accept anyone because they're a member of a group, not now, not ever!

Accept people into your life that you agree with and who you like and fuck everybody else.


Yeah, I agree with with this. I'd rep you, but I just did and am out. Owe you one.
 
Yeah, Rudy's an anomaly. Thanks for that contribution dannno.

I'm seriously interested if anybody knows.

No way to really know at this point, but he does come from the teocon wing of the tea party, which faction has famously maintained support for GWB's rampant militarism. So we may not have any facts, but could potentially have some indication. I'm still in wait and see mode.
 
I wouldn't trust anything the SPLC says.

I also do not believe that most of the people actually IN the "Alt-Right" consider themselves a 'rebranding of traditional white nationalism.'

Maybe Bannon is a hard core racist. Maybe Bannon doesn't GAF about race. Either way, there is nothing about the SPLC that will enlighten anyone.

Didn't the SPLC try to pull this crap on Ron?

The SPLC once had an organization I once belonged to on the shit list they keep and they have no credibility , none .
 
It's just that there was all this cheerleading for Bannon when trump chose him. But nobody seems to have any idea what his foreign policy stance is.
 
No way to really know at this point, but he does come from the teocon wing of the tea party, which faction has famously maintained support for GWB's rampant militarism. So we may not have any facts, but could potentially have some indication. I'm still in wait and see mode.
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is "America First". in my opinion, that at least means that he won't want to spend a bunch on foreign aid or intervene overseas... could just be wishful thinking on my part.
 
Don't know him well but have not heard of his actions that could even come remotely close to the racist actions against colored people by following racist characters that media neocons/SWC community is shockingly quiet about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

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Have not seen a snigle news or accusation of SB being involved in heinous crimes against thousands of colored children. Next to to these guys, he's probably a saint of racial fairness.
 
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