Snowden releases the intelligence agency guide to internet shilling

[Zippyjuan]

Sounds like a job for Internet Troll Hunter!

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Collactive's main product was a system designed to influence ratings on key sites which measure the popularity of items on the Internet. The system had two main components, the APB component that allows an individual to create and distribute a "call for action" webpage, and the "Web Assistant", that, when installed on a user's computer, helped APB participants by automating the process of logging in, voting or commenting according to the previously created APB. its earlier Blue Service Team-released Blue Frog, Collactive's software was accused of being unethical.

In July 2009, it was announced that the Israeli Foreign Ministry would assemble an "internet warfare" squad to spread a pro-Israel message on various websites, with funding

 

[DamianTV]

I wish the Govt Budget were Emo so it would cut itself...

(parody of "I wish my lawn were Emo so it would cut itself"...)

 

[Mini-Me]

The negative rep comment I just received from compromise for the above post.



bizarre...

That's bizarre enough for a bump.

What a ludicrous allegation.

You know that paid shills are not present on the Ron Paul Forums. You have either forgotten, or you are lying. Please reconsider your opinion.

I know "there are no trolls here, only troll behavior," but one of you is outright lying here over something rather important. Which one is it?

The nature of the thread gives me the willies, especially after reading this revelation which basically indicated GodLikeProductions and AboveTopSecret staff are complicit in covering up the activity of an actual shill who made a mistake with "forum management" software that led to copy/pasting references to CIA/NCS training material:
http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924
So, just how common is this? Many of us have long assumed that shills, infiltrators, disruptors, agent provocateurs, etc. have long been on this site and pretty much any other site of value (alongside unaffiliated trolls). Given the CIA's immense budget on and off the books, and given their goal of "full spectrum dominance," it would be ludicrous to think they aren't getting anything accomplished or that their presence is negligible, especially in light of Snowden's revelations and the smoking gun at the link above.

This is a thorny issue: It's important not to spread mistrust and paranoia, because taking it too far causes division, discord, and paralysis, but we probably shouldn't ignore red flags either. Mods or Bryan, would it be against TOS or your ethics to verify whether FloralScent is telling the truth, particularly if FloralScent or compromise grants you permission? In the case of the mods, is it within your technical capabities to do so?

 

[FloralScent]

Mods or Bryan, would it be against TOS or your ethics to verify whether FloralScent is telling the truth, particularly if FloralScent or compromise grants you permission? In the case of the mods, is it within your technical capabities to do so?

Fortunately I keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency.

 

[Mini-Me]

Fortunately I keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency.

Simple enough, and thank you. So, not only did compromise outright lie when he denied sending that message, but he falsely accused you of being a liar as well.

compromise, would you like to reconsider whether you sent that message, accuse FloralScent of Photoshop doctoring, or go totally silent like you did when CaseyJones called you out for having a London IP address (after you specifically said you had only done an internship there a long time ago, and that you were back in the US)?

 

[Carson]

"Snowden releases the intelligence agency guide to internet shilling"

My Shilling meter started pegging around here starting a couple of weeks ago. Then again maybe it was just the real word coming in some.

Not that we don't regularly raise an eyebrow at times.

 

[bolil]

I imagine the shill would be calm, and would spend the necessary amount of time "toeing" the line regarding common ideological denominators in order to gain reputation (literally and in the form of those little green bars). Once, and only when, that is done can the shill can go to work effectively. It would also be worth a shill's time to cultivate interpersonal relationships with authentic members, especially those that are tolerated but not well liked. The sort that will emotionally back a poster involved in an argument, instead of intellectually defending the post. So, basically, the THING is here and has been, necessarily so, for awhile. Anyways, Bolil isn't a shill just often durnk (resuming lurk)

Shit, it would be even more effective to have two shills work in concert and in feigned opposition to each-other. What better way to frame an argument than to helm both sides of it. This seems consistent with the "black and white" facet of shilling.

 

[BucksforPaul]

Great, now everyone on these forums will be paranoid and accusing anyone who disagrees on this or that of being a paid shill.

Which version of the Megaphone application are you using? Btw, I didn't need Snowden to reveal the obvious truth about paid whores who will sell their souls for a schilling.

 

[pcosmar]

Which version of the Megaphone application are you using? Btw, I didn't need Snowden to reveal the obvious truth about paid whores who will sell their souls for a schilling.

I am somewhat forgiving of the paid whores,, having been somewhat of a mercenary in my past.

It is the "true believers" that are most concerning.

It's not my place to ask.
I believe in something greater than myself.
A better world.
A world without sin.

I'm not going to live there.
There's no place for me there...
any more than there is for you.
I'm a monster.
What I do is evil.
I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.

But I gave up active troll hunting here some time ago.

 

[FloralScent]

Which version of the Megaphone application are you using? Btw, I didn't need Snowden to reveal the obvious truth about paid whores who will sell their souls for a schilling.

Nor did I. All anyone has to do is check out Cass Sunstein's Wikipedia page where it's laid out for the whole world to see. One of the primary architects of government online infiltration doesn't even try and hide their intentions but every time it's brought up here, our resident trolls suspects loose their shit; real subtle guys. Of course it would be foolish to assume they're all this incompetent.

 

[devil21]

I just looked up the notations at the bottom of this slide.

It means "SECRET - SPECIAL INTELLIGENCE - RELEASEABLE TO USA AND AUSTRALIA GREAT BRITAIN NEW ZEALAND CANADA"

I wonder why it's the US and British crown colonies?

 

[FloralScent]

Simple enough, and thank you. So, not only did compromise outright lie when he denied sending that message, but he falsely accused you of being a liar as well.

compromise, would you like to reconsider whether you sent that message, accuse FloralScent of Photoshop doctoring, or go totally silent like you did when CaseyJones called you out for having a London IP address (after you specifically said you had only done an internship there a long time ago, and that you were back in the US)?

He's playing possum, at least on this thread.

 

[BucksforPaul]

He's playing possum, at least on this thread.

Lol, can you really blame it since it did get caught for being a paid troll.

 

[donnay]

Paid internet shills do not exist.

Yes, There Are Paid Government Trolls On Social Media, Blogs, Forums And Websites
http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...lls-on-social-media-blogs-forums-and-websites

 

[fr33]

He's playing possum, at least on this thread.

Yeah he does that. Judging from his posts he's more likely part of some republican group trying to co-opt us.

 

[devil21]

Yeah he does that. Judging from his posts he's more likely part of some republican group trying to co-opt us.

"He" is not an individual human being. "He" is a "HOME" pool account.

 

[devil21]

With all the Snowden stuff lately, Im wondering if there has really been anything released that wasn't already known publicly, at least to some extent.

Here's an early 2011 article about the US military buying shill software:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/...-used-for-classified-social-media-activities/

I think a lot of these sorts of military purchases are actually for NSA/CIA/etc. Try to find a purchase order for anything for the intelligence agencies. Bet ya can't.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I just looked up the notations at the bottom of this slide.

It means "SECRET - SPECIAL INTELLIGENCE - RELEASEABLE TO USA AND AUSTRALIA GREAT BRITAIN NEW ZEALAND CANADA"

I wonder why it's the US and British crown colonies?

FVEY means the Five Eyes. They are the top tier cooperators with the NSA. There are three tiers. The first being the countries which the NSA shares information with little to no spying being done on said government (absent those governments themselves requesting it). They don't need to spy on those countries because those countries are already providing the entirety of what they have.

The "second tier" is general cooperation. A quid pro quo relationship where it is clear the various nations spy on each other. Israel is included in this.

The "third tier" is no cooperation. It is understood that the NSA and their like intelligence agencies are collecting data in any way possible. Some of these countries may surprise you. Mexico, for example. Not all of the countries listed as "third tier" are "axis of evil" countries.

Another rung lower, below the Five Eyes partners and second-tier countries such as Israel, the third tier is composed of countries who are often targets but never partners of US spying programs. Those predictably include governments viewed as adversaries, such as China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, and Syria. But the third tier also includes countries ranging from the generally friendly to neutral, such as Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Indonesia, Kenya, and South Africa.

Glenn Greenwald (2014-05-13 00:00:00-04:00). No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA and the Surveillance State (Kindle Locations 1897-1900). Hamish Hamilton. Kindle Edition.

 

[dannno]

This is shilling:

http://www.predecimal.com/1965-scottish-shilling-p-775.html

What page is that in your binder??