Silver vs food/guns

echebota said:
Still I think you are exaggerating. This video from Argentina shows a situation, which was rather an exception then a rule. Again, drawing a parallel to Russia’s 90s I remember there were some demonstrations and even armed fights between conflicting governments in Moscow, and I saw people getting squashed by tanks, and other much more violent footage shown on TV. So this Argentina clip is very soft, comparing to what I saw in Moscow. But overall only few people in Moscow willingly participated in these fights, very few people died. So out of 150M people only may be 1000 participated. I lived in the same city and watched all these events on TV as you watch the crime report about your neighborhood every day.

In US’s future sure there would be high unemployment, sure there would be no or less excesses, sure it would be very hard time for some people, sure there would be high crime rate, but I don't see people shooting at each other becoming a norm or even a problem. All this is given that on average Americans are as civilized as people in Europe for example.

If you consider average American to be psychotic and bipolar nut then all gloves are off :) And you are right.
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I get your point and agree to a large degree....a certain percentage are going to capitalize on an opportunity to loot and riot (a given)...the rest will probably take it well if they still have groceries....if the currency fails and they have to spend it as fast as they get it, it may be very interesting.

I believe the Argentina clip shows the people pissed because their banks were locked and whatever "wealth" they had, they couldn't get to (maybe like Enron employees watching their stocks become worthless).

I would expect widespread violence if the Gov. tries to force people to do things or tries to confiscate things from the public.
 
echebota said:
Still I think you are exaggerating. This video from Argentina shows a situation, which was rather an exception then a rule. Again, drawing a parallel to Russia’s 90s I remember there were some demonstrations and even armed fights between conflicting governments in Moscow, and I saw people getting squashed by tanks, and other much more violent footage shown on TV. So this Argentina clip is very soft, comparing to what I saw in Moscow. But overall only few people in Moscow willingly participated in these fights, very few people died. So out of 150M people only may be 1000 participated. I lived in the same city and watched all these events on TV as you watch the crime report about your neighborhood every day.

In US’s future sure there would be high unemployment, sure there would be no or less excesses, sure it would be very hard time for some people, sure there would be high crime rate, but I don't see people shooting at each other becoming a norm or even a problem. All this is given that on average Americans are as civilized as people in Europe for example.

If you consider average American to be psychotic and bipolar nut then all gloves are off :) And you are right.
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What about Katrina?
 
Met Income said:
What about Katrina?
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This.

one thing we have to bear in mind here is that the citizens of the Soviet Union were accustomed to hardship. The foodstuff logistics system of the USSR was not capital-driven like it is in the US. The USSR did not practice "just in time" delivery like we do in the US. People who delivered food kept delivering it, not for money, but out of a sense of "duty" which Americans have by and large lost. There were a lot more community and family garden plots in the USSR than there are today in the USA, and people in the USSR had, by long practice learned to stock up on items like toilet paper.

The US is a completely different place, and as Katrina demonstrates, far more likely to descend into chaos at a similar provocation.
 
The American people not reacting as their idiotic rulers destroy the currency and/or put tanks in cities. That IS the worst case scenerio.
Accepting mediocrity, like the russian people have, is the scariest thing that can happen.
 
echebota said:
Still I think you are exaggerating. This video from Argentina shows a situation, which was rather an exception then a rule. Again, drawing a parallel to Russia’s 90s I remember there were some demonstrations and even armed fights between conflicting governments in Moscow, and I saw people getting squashed by tanks, and other much more violent footage shown on TV. So this Argentina clip is very soft, comparing to what I saw in Moscow. But overall only few people in Moscow willingly participated in these fights, very few people died. So out of 150M people only may be 1000 participated. I lived in the same city and watched all these events on TV as you watch the crime report about your neighborhood every day.

In US’s future sure there would be high unemployment, sure there would be no or less excesses, sure it would be very hard time for some people, sure there would be high crime rate, but I don't see people shooting at each other becoming a norm or even a problem. All this is given that on average Americans are as civilized as people in Europe for example.

If you consider average American to be psychotic and bipolar nut then all gloves are off :) And you are right.
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I don't mean to offend you in anyway (especially a fellow ron paul supporter) but I believe this is a naive hope saying Americans are peace loving people. I like to look at history and how the government and the people reacted. If the LA riots and Katina was any indicating factor Americans will respond violent. especially when there is a limited supply of food
 
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