Sign Waves and Super Brochures? No.

[radiofriendly]

I know most of us have already covered this, but there may be some new folks, I hope so!

Don't be sidetracked from proven techniques for winning elections. The way campaigning works is a combination of phone banking and canvassing.
The first time you reach someone (by phone or in person) you determine:

1. Are they a likely voter in the Republican primary?
2. What issue(s) most motivates them?

If you have time--and right now we do--you don't even necessarily reveal the candidate at this point.

You contact them again in person hopefully within 2 weeks (it's called canvassing) and you now drop off a flyer or brochure that addresses their motivating issue. The fall-back is a general flyer that covers vague basics about the candidate. You seek to build rapport with them, asking a few open-ended questions (not yes/no), listen to them and end with a short personal appeal to them about how your chosen candidate answers their motivating issue. Ask them if your candidate can depend on their vote on election day.

Any other programs that send a flyer without any knowledge about the potential voter (are they even a voter?) are largely a waste of time. I think you'll find that a vast majority of people who have actually worked on winning campaigns will agree with me here.

*Sign waves. Don't even get me started! The only reason for them--and it is a valid reason--is to let your volunteers let off some steam and have a little fun. For some reason, political nuts love waving signs at masses of cars and proceed to interpret every honk as a new voter for their candidate of choice. No, they are just honking because they think you are funny. If you are an activism leader, teach your volunteers about the real effective activism and don't allow 100s of hours to be wasted waving signs at anonymous cars. Remember, statistically these are not likely Republican voters.

We all have limited time. That time is best served reaching people who are likely to vote in a Republican primary. Learning this, believe me I know, is a humbling experience.

 

[groverblue]

Even though I've done sign waves, I don't think it's a very effective use of time. Better to have a meetup to make calls for Rand

 

[twomp]

Sign waves for Ron Paul? I'm there for sure! For Rand Paul? Eh not so much. I'll vote for him though.

 

[Jackie Moon]

The way campaigning works is a combination of phone banking and canvassing.
The first time you reach someone (by phone or in person) you determine:

1. Are they a likely voter in the Republican primary?
2. What issue(s) most motivates them?

If you have time--and right now we do--you don't even necessarily reveal the candidate at this point.

You contact them again in person hopefully within 2 weeks (it's called canvassing) and you now drop off a flyer or brochure that addresses their motivating issue. The fall-back is a general flyer that covers vague basics about the candidate. You seek to build rapport with them, asking a few open-ended questions (not yes/no), listen to them and end with a short personal appeal to them about how your chosen candidate answers their motivating issue. Ask them if your candidate can depend on their vote on election day.

Completely agree. The proven, best, most efficient way to actually get votes. You can do it through the campaign's phone from home, volunteer if you're in an early state, or just use it when talking to people you know and come across.

Whether it's a good thing or not, many people really only care about a couple issues and will decide who to vote for based on that.

You just want to figure out what that issue is, and explain in a way that connects to them why Rand will be the best to solve it.

If you can convince them on their important issue, you have a good chance to earn their vote.

Don't keep talking after you've made a sale. Don't give them more info that could possibly turn them off. Don't confuse them with stuff they don't care about.

Identify a voter, find out what their issue is, convince them on that issue, and then when election day comes get them to vote.

 

[CaptUSA]

Sign waves actually provide a benefit. They energize the activists. That energy is needed.

The important thing is to capture that energy and turn it into results. That where the OP's points come in.

I have worked the phone banks plenty over years. After doing that for a few days, everyone gets excited and amped up for the publicity events. They may not provide anything of practical use, but they do wonders for the morale of the team.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Even though I've done sign waves, I don't think it's a very effective use of time. Better to have a meetup to make calls for Rand

I signed up for the phone calls. I did it for Ron in 2008 and 2012. I have the time, I'll do it for Rand too.

 

[po14015]

Let me give a little clarity here: RadioFriendly was PAID by a group of people who "bait and switched" over $110,000 from people in 2011.

He snuck into a a library and made a video bashing the Super Brochure in 2011. He was part of a group of people that helped spread doubt.

Why post this? What is gained? Are you even looking around and seeing what is going on? The last thing Rand wants is people NOT doing anything.

I encourage people to do anything that gets them excited about helping Rand win. Will some of the things be the most effective? No. But people will be EXCITED and that can lead to great things.

The most effective and cheapest thing anyone can do to help Rand win is mail Super Brochures directly to the people that ACTUALLY VOTE. AMAZING RIGHT??? Republican Super Voters determine primary elections. 1 out of 3 Republican Super Voters don't even know Rand is in the race! A good portion of the other 2/3 don't know where he stands on issues.

Here is the Rand Paul Super Brochure (if you like it and want to help go here: http://www.foreverfree.com/

I love that people think that they can call or walk every house in the country. But be realistic. The only wat to reach them is with mail. Period.

In Liberty,

Curt Schultz
941-962-7660

AND PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS:

 

[radiofriendly]

Holy smokes! You can't have a discussion about activism tactics without making baseless personal attacks?

I've never done any sneaking (Smeagol?) into facilities. I essentially volunteered when I was asked (only travel and a computer was paid) for 2 different PAC groups simply to document the energy in the grassroots and do some training videos.

Because I disagree with your tactics doesn't make me part of a conspiracy. Surely we can have a grown-up debate?

 

[SilentBull]

I know most of us have already covered this, but there may be some new folks, I hope so!

Don't be sidetracked from proven techniques for winning elections. The way campaigning works is a combination of phone banking and canvassing.
The first time you reach someone (by phone or in person) you determine:

1. Are they a likely voter in the Republican primary?
2. What issue(s) most motivates them?

If you have time--and right now we do--you don't even necessarily reveal the candidate at this point.

You contact them again in person hopefully within 2 weeks (it's called canvassing) and you now drop off a flyer or brochure that addresses their motivating issue. The fall-back is a general flyer that covers vague basics about the candidate. You seek to build rapport with them, asking a few open-ended questions (not yes/no), listen to them and end with a short personal appeal to them about how your chosen candidate answers their motivating issue. Ask them if your candidate can depend on their vote on election day.

Any other programs that send a flyer without any knowledge about the potential voter (are they even a voter?) are largely a waste of time. I think you'll find that a vast majority of people who have actually worked on winning campaigns will agree with me here.

*Sign waves. Don't even get me started! The only reason for them--and it is a valid reason--is to let your volunteers let off some steam and have a little fun. For some reason, political nuts love waving signs at masses of cars and proceed to interpret every honk as a new voter for their candidate of choice. No, they are just honking because they think you are funny. If you are an activism leader, teach your volunteers about the real effective activism and don't allow 100s of hours to be wasted waving signs at anonymous cars. Remember, statistically these are not likely Republican voters.

We all have limited time. That time is best served reaching people who are likely to vote in a Republican primary. Learning this, believe me I know, is a humbling experience.

Thanks for writing this. This really should be a sticky or something. New people may not understand that these brochures do more harm than good.

 

[po14015]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

 

[po14015]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I love that people think that they can call or walk every house in the country. But be realistic. The only wat to reach them is with mail. Period.

In Liberty,

Curt Schultz
941-962-7660

AND PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS:

It's rarely true to say a certain thing is the "only" way to get something done. I've done phone banking for several campaigns (not just Ron's) and I can tell you that I've seen positive results.

 

[rich34]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

Wow that's interesting. I also believe the pollsters finally starting to report the truth as the election drew near had something to do with the increase in poll numbers as well. I think the former has more to do with it, but it could have helped.

 

[rich34]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

Wow that's interesting. I also believe the pollsters finally starting to report the truth as the election drew near had something to do with the increase in poll numbers as well. I think the former has more to do with it, but it could have helped.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Let me give a little clarity here: RadioFriendly was PAID by a group of people who "bait and switched" over $110,000 from people in 2011.

He snuck into a a library and made a video bashing the Super Brochure in 2011. He was part of a group of people that helped spread doubt.

You did one hell of a lot of damage with those Super brochures, Curt. RadioFriendly is absolutely correct.

Why post this? What is gained? Are you even looking around and seeing what is going on? The last thing Rand wants is people NOT doing anything.

I encourage people to do anything that gets them excited about helping Rand win. Will some of the things be the most effective? No. But people will be EXCITED and that can lead to great things.

The most effective and cheapest thing anyone can do to help Rand win is mail Super Brochures directly to the people that ACTUALLY VOTE. AMAZING RIGHT??? Republican Super Voters determine primary elections. 1 out of 3 Republican Super Voters don't even know Rand is in the race! A good portion of the other 2/3 don't know where he stands on issues.

Here is the Rand Paul Super Brochure (if you like it and want to help go here: http://www.foreverfree.com/

I love that people think that they can call or walk every house in the country. But be realistic. The only wat to reach them is with mail. Period.

In Liberty,

Curt Schultz
941-962-7660

AND PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS:

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Please don't start this shit again, Curt!! You royally pissed off and ran away Ron Paul supporters in Iowa during Ron Paul's last campaign, with your flyer with the casket on it. Who knows how many others you ran off all across the nation.

You don't know shit about campaign marketing. Rand has hired people. For God's sake, if you want to distribute flyers, USE THE CAMPAIGNS!! Otherwise, you should be treated as someone who is trying to do harm.

NOTE: You are throwing the kitchen sink at them with these brochures. Instead, what successful campaigns do is to understand what the voter's hot issues are and give them that specific brochure. Otherwise, you risk running them off for good.

People, last time around these guys provided links in their Super Brochure to 911 Truther videos and other such crap. The threads are still out there about this.

DO NOT SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.

 

[Paulistinian]

SuperBrochure was a fucking scam in 2011 and it's a scam in 2015. Curt Schulz should be ashamed. If you want to help there are SO many organizations that need volunteers, DO NOT FALL VICTIM to this SuperBrochure scam, keep your money or donate it to the official campaign.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sign waves work! They build groups, make people want to come back and do more, are social.

On that honking? Look up "lemming effect".

Bohemian sign waves are educational and if done right have an area at the end were people can be encouraged to pull off and learn more/be recruited to help/be identified as a supporter.

OP you are sooo full of yourself.

-t

 

[LibertyEagle]

Sign waves work! They build groups, make people want to come back and do more, are social.

On that honking? Look up "lemming effect".

Bohemian sign waves are educational and if done right have an area at the end were people can be encouraged to pull off and learn more/be recruited to help/be identified as a supporter.

OP you are sooo full of yourself.

-t

Radiofriendly is right.

Sign waves can be fun though and can do what tangent says, but they cannot be the only thing. I think the point the OP was making is that you get more bang for the buck/effort with other approaches.

 

[Mad Raven]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

What is this graph supposed to be? It looks like it could be a line from some random graph with a new heading slapped on it. I'm not saying it is, but how did you come up with those numbers and attribute the success to the super brochure?

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Super Brochures are incredible and get results. Yes sticky why people should be using them.

And here come the scam artists.

Everyone reading this should know that Curt here directly profits from the Superbrochure. There is no real evidence that it helped in any way whatsoever last time. It is a tremendously expensive scattershot mailer that does not target voters on issues or demographics, or anything. The Rand Paul campaign has paid professionals who are distributing mailers in a targeted fashion. There is no reason for anyone to dump their money into a scam just to feel good about themselves. There are other, more effective ways to help the campaign.

I think you'll have a much harder time selling snake oil here than you will with the young kids and the potheads over on the DailyPaul or PopularLiberty or whatever they're calling it nowadays.