Sickening Hit Piece on Rand Paul Published in NY Times

[jbauer]

Says the guy whose avatar is Obama wearing gold chains and throwing up signs. You and your ilk are the ones who ensure this movement doesn't advance.

Ah the success of the article. Get supporters to turn on each other.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Says the guy whose avatar is Obama wearing gold chains and throwing up signs. You and your ilk are the ones who ensure this movement doesn't advance.

LOL, I actually snatched the avi from a big Obama supporter years ago. Thought it was funny at the time. If you dont have a sense of humor I feel sorry for ya.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Ah the success of the article. Get supporters to turn on each other.

Yep. Fact is, there are so many different "types" of libertarians. Alex Jones types, Ron Paul constitutionalists, Anarchists, Academics like Woods, Rothbard, etc, soft libertarians like the Reason folks, or CATO, there are some with very questionionable social views like JBS, the kids who just want to legalize weed, we are all over the place. Politics is all about trying to fit people into one group or under one umberella. That is just not possible with libertarians. The one common denominator is the belief in the principle of non-aggression, thats all I care about. Whether you hate Rand Paul or love him, whether you hate truthers, or you hang your confederate flag high just doesnt concern me.

Articles like this are from and for people that will never get libertarianism, so its pointless arguing with them.

People like RPFocus who want us all to talk and think one specific way so the idiots at the NYT wont think we are kooks need to realize that.

 

[rpfocus]

People like RPFocus who want us all to talk and think one specific way

LOL, that's what you got from my post? Completely idiotic, but not surprising. But hey, continue thinking you're helping the liberty movement with your "humor".

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

The comments on Facebook on the Reason Magazine post of this interview are just ridiculous. .

That's nothing, you should check out the commentary on the facebook pages of some of the Cato people. Total freakout.

BTW, Reason writer Brian Doherty, who was quoted in the piece, says he was interviewed for it six months ago!!! Obviously, this smear job has been in the planning stages for a ling time.

 

[klamath]

Maybe you ought to brush up on the emoticons. What do you think the rolly eyes mean?

 

[limequat]

To those that find the article sickening...

Download it. Study it. Know it inside and out.

The old dying MSN tipped its hand, and the drivel contained therein is all we're gonna hear for the next 2 years. That gives us plenty of time to have quick pocket-sized responses locked and loaded.

Here's a few examples:

Brain dead NYT reader: Rand Paul is a r*cist!

Educated Rand Paul Supporter: Really, because I see him working to reduce mandatory sentencing and drug convictions, and reduce minorities' tax burdens. What's <fill in the blank liberal 2016 contender> doing to support minorities? Sending them to die in the middle east?

Brain dead NYT reader: Rand Paul is a c*rporate shill!
Educated Rand Paul Supporter: It's true that the Rand Paul budget calls for lower capital gains taxes for governments, but it also calls for lower taxes for individuals. High taxes increase the costs of goods and services for everyone and lower the standard of living for everyone. High costs impact the working poor the mosts, as they can't absorb costs increases like the rich can.

Brain dead NYT reader: Rand Paul is a tr*ther!
Educated Rand Paul Supporter:Bullshit, there is no evidence for that.

 

[belian78]

Says the guy whose avatar is Obama wearing gold chains and throwing up signs. You and your ilk are the ones who ensure this movement doesn't advance.

Yup, an internet avatar is CLEARLY the reason why folks don't understand young libertarians.

 

[KingNothing]

In defense of the NYT, Truthers are freaking horrendous and JBS is equally ridiculous.

 

[KingNothing]

The comments on Facebook on the Reason Magazine post of this interview are just ridiculous. Are all of the Reason Magazine people basically just liberals who don't like that label and would just prefer to call themselves libertarians? Because some of their main complaints against Rand are that he's pro choice on abortion and is a shill for corporations since he supports reducing government regulations.

Reason Magazine is the single greatest Libertarian enterprise in American history. There's no reason to rip it.

 

[green73]

Reason Magazine is the single greatest Libertarian enterprise in American history. There's no reason to rip it.

You're so on the ball with the subject that you still capitalize libertarian.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Maybe you ought to brush up on the emoticons. What do you think the rolly eyes mean?

The first time I used the roll eyes, I used it on someone's post I agreed with. I used it thinking the eyes were looking at the post I was agreeing with. That poster must of thought I was being sarcastic. Ha ha.

You're so on the ball with the subject that you still capitalize libertarian.

Early on, after joining RPF, I always capitalized libertarian as a sign of respect. It wasn't until reading many posts that realized that big L meant specifically a member of the Libertarian party and small L meant more of an ideology.

When I joined RPF, I was new to communicating on the web. It was a learning process.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Tom DiLorenzo comments on The Gray Whore's hit piece: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/what-i-told-the-new-york-times/

What I Told the New York Times

The New York Times “reporter” (a.k.a. lying propagandist for the state) who authored the libelous smear against Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and the Mises Institute “interviewed” me several weeks ago by email. It was obvious that most of his questions came directly from the “beltwaytarians” who have been waging a hate campaign against us for years since I’d heard it all before. He obviously wanted to portray Rand Paul as a crazed “anarchist” who favored abolishing the government altogether (not that there’s anything wrong with that) since he kept asking me if Rand has ever read Lysander Spooner. I told him that it would not surprise me if Ron Paul had shared his education, including his readings of Spooner, with his children, but I had never met or communicated with Rand Paul. I also told him that if he listened to any of Ron’s speeches over the past 30 years, he would immediately learn that Ron is a limited-government constitutionalist, not an anarchist, and that in my opinion Rand Paul is a bit more of an interventionist than his father is. Neither is an anarchist, in other words. The “reporter” was obviously very disappointed with my responses and ignored them.

I also told the lying little jerk at the New York Times that my book, The Real Lincoln, is not a book about “the Civil War” in general, but about the real versus the fake Lincoln created by the Republican Party and its court historians over the past 149 years. I told him that criticizing Lincoln does not make one a defender of the Confederacy any more than criticizing FDR makes one a defender of Hitler. (I mention the Confederacy in one half of one page in The Real Lincoln). He ended up ignoring everything I said, did not quote anything I’ve ever written, and simply accused all of us as being “defenders of the Confederacy,” i.e., of slavery. As Lew has said, he was not interested in informing anyone about our scholarship, only libeling us.

As Bob Wenzel points out in his article today, some of the usual suspects (the Reason/Cato/Koch Foundation/Beltwaytarian crowd) have responded to the New York Times smear by once again proving that their Number One Goal in Life is to be able to kiss the asses of the New York Times’ literary defenders of Stalin, of the lies that led to the Iraq War, of Keynesianism, government spying, military imperialism, and an unlimited welfare state by supporting and agreeing with the smears on their own Web sites. They believe that that is the route to a more libertarian society, demonstrating yet again just how far their heads are implanted up their asses.

 

[Occam's Banana]

And more from Tom DiLorenzo: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-biggest-lie/

The Biggest Lie ...

. . . told by the lying little twerp at the New York Times in his lame smear/libel of Ron and Rand Paul and the Mises Institute is his outrageous contention that the Mises Intitute espouses some kind of bizarre religious doctrine (un-named and unexplained by the twerp). I have been associated with the Mises Institute for about 30 years as a faculty member, lecturer, online educator, author, and donor. I have probably attended at least 90 percent of all the conferences sponsored by the Institute during that time period. I have been a daily reader of mises.org ever since the Web site was started. Never once have I heard or read of any kind of religious doctrine of any kind in any Mises Institute publication, speech, or other form of communication in the past 30 years. No such thing exists, as anyone who is familiar with the Mises Institute knows.

The most likely source of this particular slander is a mentally-unbalanced former Cato Institute vice president for international junketeering and gay bar hopping who has been repeating this nonsense for at least the past five years or so to whoever will listen to him. (When a central-European libertarian academic was asked why the Cato Institute sent this person to his country after the fall of communism, he said that his apparent “job” was to find out where all the gay bars were in his city). This is a person who fancies himself an academic even though he has never spent a single day of his life in an academic job and has never published a single article in a peer-reviewed academic journal, a minimal prerequisite for any real academic. Being such a loser and a phony, it is understandable that he would spend his time conniving with New York Times leftists to smear and slander others who have achieved far more influence and intellectual success.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

LOL, that's what you got from my post? Completely idiotic, but not surprising. But hey, continue thinking you're helping the liberty movement with your "humor".

How exactly am I hurting the liberty movement with my avi? You're a freaking joke dude.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Tom Woods: The Anti-Truth New York Times, and How to Deal With It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V5GwxkanD4