Should this be a law?

Should Congress require online merchants accept APO/FPO military addresses?

  • Yes: Service members should be able to shop online like everyone else.

    Votes: 12 19.7%
  • No: Liberty means merchants are allowed to not do business with you.

    Votes: 45 73.8%
  • What's an APO/FPO???

    Votes: 4 6.6%

  • Total voters
    61
can you say martin marietta?

boeing?

hmm?

yea, fascist


and i called the USAF fascist... not a servicemember, and not one on this forum. so again, what was your justification for the infraction?


atleast you can accept the sadists part.
 
foo's next move.

lock the thread so no one can bump it and hope that this little expose into his thought process will vanish forever
 
and talk about a skewed poll..

yes service members should be able to shop online like everyone else...

yea, everyone else in a foreign country whose mail gets handled by all the meatheads from highschool...
 
Can a business write off a loss greater than net income? Net Profit?

Can a business carry a loss over to the following year?

By write-off I assume you mean deduct from income. So...

1) Yep.

2) Trick question. If the loss is greater than income, there never was a net profit.

3) Yep, but how many years varies.
 
Looks like Foo is off Googling for the answer. The answer to both questions is :

It depends.

Now, Foo claims that if a shopkeeper ships him a widget that doesn't arrive, or arrives broken, the shop keeper will be able to break even on the transaction and that should be adequate compensation.

Of course, we all know that write offs actually equate to corporate welfare, but that's another topic. I'm just betting that Foo isn't even thinking about the cost of money when he claims that the storekeeper doesn't lose a penny when he has to pay Foo back for that widget.

Trust me. If "just writing off costs" was actually an effective strategy, business wouldn't pay people like me money to watch costs and analyze them to the extent they do.
 
Looks like Foo is off Googling for the answer. The answer to both questions is :

It depends.

Now, Foo claims that if a shopkeeper ships him a widget that doesn't arrive, or arrives broken, the shop keeper will be able to break even on the transaction and that should be adequate compensation.

Of course, we all know that write offs actually equate to corporate welfare, but that's another topic. I'm just betting that Foo isn't even thinking about the cost of money when he claims that the storekeeper doesn't lose a penny when he has to pay Foo back for that widget.

Trust me. If "just writing off costs" was actually an effective strategy, business wouldn't pay people like me money to watch costs and analyze them to the extent they do.

Wait, this is interesting... How is it corporate welfare to reduce taxes in general for all businesses? :confused: 'Splain.

Corporate welfare, more appropriately, is when taxes are reduced for specific industries, or when specific industries are given money outright via R&D grants, loans, or bail-outs.
 
What difference does any of this make? The business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. Period. What are you proposing? That the Constitution says the U.S. Government has the right to tell all business owners how to conduct business, with whom they may do business, when they may operate, etc.? That is fascism. The thing we are fighting here.

You have only proven foo, that you have no concept or care of free markets and that you want the nanny state to come out and protect you.

That is what the dems want. That is what the statists want. That is what the neo-cons want.

That is not what Ron Paul wants.

This is simply a question about freedom and you seem to dislike the concept. I understand now why the board got into so much trouble the other day.

We like freedom. We like that a business owner can do business where they want and with whom. We like liberty. We don't believe in using force against people. But since you have a gun on your side, I imagine you are very comfortable using force against people.

But we don't like the government using force against people which is why we are supporting Ron Paul.

Go cry a river. You poor thing. You aren't entitled to a thing. You are a whiner who wants to have other people be your bully. If you don't like being in Australia where you can't have the freedoms that others have perhaps you should have picked a different profession. But with your choice comes consequences. Boo hoo.

Riiiight...

I found my own solution to the problem as it is. Still, I think a G.I. in Afghanistan that wants to buy a book should be allowed to without having to get it sent to his parents and then have them pay to ship it to him.

And you show you have no concept of fascism either.

Mussolini himself said that fascism would better be called corporatism, which is where government marries into the corporate structure much like the healthcare system is now.

It's where business influence in government is so pervasive (i.e. lobbyists and corporate welfare) that the laws are made to favor businesses over both the consumer and the taxpayer.

What you describe is authoritarianism/statism. You guys really ought to take a class on this stuff.
 
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First, no it should not be a law. If I ran a business and decided that I would not ship my product to Ohio, that is my right as the business owner. Several catalogs I get won't ship items to MA or CA due to their laws.

Do you get your credit card statements at your APO address? Most credit card billing won't go thru if the addresses do not match.
Also UPS can not ship to a APO/FPO address and some companies have exclusive shipping contracts with UPS.

I'm sure there are several other practical reasons why companies do not ship to APO addresses, and seeing how they are protecting their business interests, they have the right to not ship anywhere they don't wish to.

eb
 
foofighter, you need to read your history....

who put mussolini in charge of italy? why?

what means did the fascist party use to implement their strategies, what were their methods of propaganda?

inform us oh great one.
 
Is it possible that the military is preventing these merchants from sending you packages in order to protect your life? I cannot imagine the safety checks that would have to take place. Perhaps this is done to keep you safe.

The primary reason is that only the USPS can ship to an APO address and not all businesses ship with the US Postal Service, nor can they be required to do so.
 
First, no it should not be a law. If I ran a business and decided that I would not ship my product to Ohio, that is my right as the business owner. Several catalogs I get won't ship items to MA or CA due to their laws.

Do you get your credit card statements at your APO address? Most credit card billing won't go thru if the addresses do not match.
Also UPS can not ship to a APO/FPO address and some companies have exclusive shipping contracts with UPS.

I'm sure there are several other practical reasons why companies do not ship to APO addresses, and seeing how they are protecting their business interests, they have the right to not ship anywhere they don't wish to.

eb

I was trying to buy a copy of an old research study.

My credit card had an APO billing address.

They said no thanks. Why? Because of an address. They'll sent it anywhere in the U.S. except here.

UPS and FedEx dont' ship to APO because they don't have possession over the package for the entire time since they have to turn it over to the military/government postal system, thus they can't get you to sign for it.

However, I requested deliver via USPS since I know all of the above from having to deal with it for the past five years. They were already handing it over to the government from the start, but oh no, not to a military address. Bleh.
 
wait... i thought you were in australia foofighter..

you just said, they'll ship to anywhere in the u.s. except here..

???
 
Wait, this is interesting... How is it corporate welfare to reduce taxes in general for all businesses? :confused: 'Splain.

Corporate welfare, more appropriately, is when taxes are reduced for specific industries, or when specific industries are given money outright via R&D grants, loans, or bail-outs.

Because tax deductions reduce the tax bill, they reduce incentives to be efficient.
 
wait... i thought you were in australia foofighter..

you just said, they'll ship to anywhere in the u.s. except here..

???

"Here" was figurative, since APO addresses are technically in the U.S.

A quick tutorial on the military mail system:
1) Parcel is placed in the US mail with APO address.
2) USPS delivers to military mail unit at port-of-exit. USPS considers the parcel delivered.
3) Military mail system takes over and sorts, routes, and distrubutes mail 'round the world.
4) It winds up where I'm at. I get my research study, they got their money a week ago, everyone is happy.
 
how military, how gov't...

well you see, really technically australia is in america as far as we're concerned.

the world does not revolve around the military, nor does this nation. sorry. there is a signficantly greater risk attached to shipping a package oversees and having it handled by the military so i don't care how the wankers at the military choose to

technically define what is and isn't the united states.

how very imperalist.
 
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