Should the government force mothers to look at their children before aborting them?

Seems everybody is focused on the effect rather than the cause.
If a couple had morals, then they wouldn't be getting pregnant by accident to begin with.

What is it, the joy of having sex rather than having it for what it is intended for?

Sex is for procreation and when people decided to have it for fun instead of procreation, the problem of what to do with the unwanted baby they made for the enjoyment of having sex, reared it's ugly head.
 
umm what? could you clarify:D

To clarify, there has been this little trend that I've been noticing as of late. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it seems that most of the time people are going for progressive/collectivist/(new)liberal garbage, they're coming from the true/classic liberal camp. Like I said, I could almost even call myself a classic liberal, but it's sad to see people supporting abortion just because the new breed of so-called "liberals" support it.

It's murder, and that's that. People have been brainwashed by hardcore eugenics advocates that slip their agenda into education and media.
 
Seems everybody is focused on the effect rather than the cause.
If a couple had morals, then they wouldn't be getting pregnant by accident to begin with.

What is it, the joy of having sex rather than having it for what it is intended for?

Sex is for procreation and when people decided to have it for fun instead of procreation, the problem of what to do with the unwanted baby they made for the enjoyment of having sex, reared it's ugly head.

YES! Why has this extremely complex concept escaped the minds of the masses? Oh yea, propaganda and brainwashing.
 
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To clarify, there has been this little trend that I've been noticing as of late. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it seems that most of the time people are going for progressive/collectivist/(new)liberal garbage, they're coming from the true/classic liberal camp. Like I said, I could almost even call myself a classic liberal, but it's sad to see people supporting abortion just because the new breed of so-called "liberals" support it.

It's murder, and that's that. People have been brainwashed by hardcore eugenics advocates that slip their agenda into education and media.

I don't think anyone is "pro abortion". Pro choice is not pro abortion, I think that's what people who lean on the pro-life side tend to think. In the case of rape, the situation is very delicate, especially for me myself. The woman should not be forced to have the child, but also, the child is innocent and it should not be aborted because it is 'unwanted'.
 
I don't think anyone is "pro abortion". Pro choice is not pro abortion, I think that's what people who lean on the pro-life side tend to think. In the case of rape, the situation is very delicate, especially for me myself. The woman should not be forced to have the child, but also, the child is innocent and it should not be aborted because it is 'unwanted'.

yes rape is a tough issue to deal with. but an ever sadder thing to happen would be to take that horrible crime and add another one on top of it. many adoptive parents would take the child.

now in the case of the fetus harming the mother, the just decision would be to kill that which is threatening the life of the mother.
 
now in the case of the fetus harming the mother, the just decision would be to kill that which is threatening the life of the mother.
So you are the judge? If the mother decided to sacrifice herself for her child, would she be acting unjustly?
 
So you are the judge? If the mother decided to sacrifice herself for her child, would she be acting unjustly?

no lol not me. it would be just for the mother to spare her life by having an abortion. but if she wanted to sacrifice herself for the child, of course she could.
 
From the Free Turkey:
http://thefreeturkey.com/2008/11/12/texas-lawmaker-shame-and-scare-mothers-to-prevent-aboriton/

Everything’s bigger in Texas, including the melodrama. Two identical bills have been submitted to the Texas state legislatures that are essentially designed to scare and shame mothers who have decided to abort.

According to CBS Austin, doctors would by law have to “perform an ultrasound on the woman and display the image of her fetus to her, explaining the size of the embryo or fetus and outlining the presence of any internal organs. The doctor would also have to play the fetus’s heartbeat for the woman.”

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Because of their hard working attitudes, abortions in Texas just tend to desire to know the boss before they get aborted. It really bothers even a little Texan when they don't show up for work everyday and on time! I mean, unlike those little states in the northeast where, after eating their mincemeat pie, Puritans still prance around a maypole naked, Texas still has lots of available air and land, trees to cut down, water to drink, beer to make and football to watch. So, bring your tired, worthless and soulless fetuses or, as sophisticated artisans like to pronounce it while enjoying some mint tea with marmalade on dry toast, feti to Texas!
 
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