Should the GOP be forgiven for excluding Ron Paul ?

It's not a matter of forgiveness of the party. It's a matter of infiltration of the party..
 
Just like that - we should just forgive the neo-cons and war-mongers
who cut us off at caucuses and county and state conventions -
as well as at the national convention ?

By excluding the US Constitution from their principles - so then
shall the GOP expect the people to exclude the Republican Party from office forever.

its not the party its the man that carries the message of truth and freedom. if the person running is a Dem but a true honest man like Ron Paul, then vote for him. If hes a Rep and honest, vote for him.

The "party" system is a sham anyway just to screw with things and mess with peoples heads over being loyal. Be loyal to the Constitution and you will never be wrong.:bunchies:
 
Death to the GOP By Paper Cuts From the Constitution

its not the party its the man that carries the message of truth and freedom. if the person running is a Dem but a true honest man like Ron Paul, then vote for him. If hes a Rep and honest, vote for him.

The "party" system is a sham anyway just to screw with things and mess with peoples heads over being loyal. Be loyal to the Constitution and you will never be wrong.:bunchies:

The GOP is not loyal to the Constitution, therefore, none of its candidates (with the exception of Congressman Paul) will honor his oath to protect and defend it against domestic and foreign enemies. I can not support liars in office. The only party which actually honors and understands our Constitution is the Constitution Party. I can forgive the Republican Party if they show any signs of repentance, but I still will not try to infiltrate that rotting and stinking corpse of an organization.
 
i, personally, am DONE tip-toeing around the GOP... my wife and i were elected (with 2 votes each, mind you...) to the County Republican Committee... went to a couple of meetings and these people are far too stuck in their ways to change (at least in our area) i can no longer "go along" as a means to an end... i think being something you are not to try and get these people to "see the light" is just as bad, if not worse, then some of the shit they do in the name of "furthering" their agenda...

so, no, forgiveness for these people is not in my heart... they make me sick.

Instead of surrendering, you should post here and call for reinforcements. We are here to fight!
 
Instead of surrendering, you should post here and call for reinforcements. We are here to fight!
oh, I'm here to fight, but not for the ideals of the GOP! why wouldn't we concentrate on getting the VERY small amount of Ron Paul Republicans in the GOP to come over and strengthen the LP?
 
Forgiving them in the sense that we just turn our heads at what was done,
and then turn around and go right back in giving them our input and begging to be part of the Republican Party.

That is what the Republican Liberty Caucus tries - to be a wing of and still part of the GOP.
Maybe that is not the best idea, after the lessons learned over the past 18 months.
No temper tantrums, but derfinitely giving up on fruitlessly trying to become the Republican Party.

I don't think the neo-cons will retreat from their takeover of the Republican Party -
they are so hell-bent on excluding youth and energy, they should be the ones to just die off a slow
- if not a quick - death, it may be wasted energy to try to revive the Grand Old Party and better to just start fresh anew.

Call it the Ron Paul Party for all I care . . .
built on constitutionalist, libertarian, and true republican principles like non-interventionism.
GOP goons abused the term isolationist to describe us as well - we're quite the opposite really
as the term isolationist refers to trade policy.

Why beg? You don't have to kiss anyone ass to become a member of the Republican Party and become active in your local GOP.

No, the neocons will not leave easily. Is this a big surprise? None of what we have bit off in this movement is easy. We are trying to turn around what TPTB have been putting in place since at least 1913. Did you honestly expect for us to be able to walk right in and win the Presidency. C'mon now.....

Third parties are not the answer right now. I wish they were. But, they are shut out.
 
oh, I'm here to fight, but not for the ideals of the GOP! why wouldn't we concentrate on getting the VERY small amount of Ron Paul Republicans in the GOP to come over and strengthen the LP?

We are not fighting for the ideals of the GOP. Political parties are just tools used to achieve our goals.

If we get active in our local and state GOP organizations, WE will be able to reset the ideals. I don't know how old you are, but the GOP used to have a very good platform. That is, before the neocons were allowed to walk in and take everything over.

The LP is a 3rd party. It is not allowed in debates. Their candidate gets no air time. Either we take over one of the major parties, or we are going to be singing this same sad song from the sidelines every 2 years.
 
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