Should Ron Paul have spoken more harshly against Israel?

[Sergeant Brother]

When Ron Paul discussed Israel last night, his answer seemed a bit wishy washy, like it didn't completely make sense. He acted as though the US giving Israel money is hurting Israel and that in order to help Israel we should cut them off. This obviously isn't the case, of course Israel wants our money and our protection so they can continue with their belligerent militarism with impunity and so we can fight on their behalf.

Paul should have said how much harm that our support for Israel has caused us. He should have said that we're not under any obligation to give Israel any money. He should have said that Israel is no more an ally to America than a cancerous tumor or tapeworm is a person's ally. He should perhaps even question the patriotism of anybody who would be willing to sacrifice American lives on behalf of a foreign power. With all the courage and straight talk that Ron Paul shows on other issues, why the reluctance to speak honestly about Israel - when Israel supporting special interests already hate him?

 

[Paulitician]

There is something special about Israel though. If you don't support Israel, you're "unAmerican"...

Anyway, Ron was just trying to spin his answer in a way to make it seem he is in favor of Israel. I think he sincerely believes what he believes, but unlike the rest of the neo-cons and other misguided folk, doesn't see anything special about Israel. He doesn't see anything special about any country, except the US, because "we should be friends with all of them."

 

[SeanEdwards]

I think Ron's answer was fantastic. Treat them like adults and respect their sovereignty. Stop giving them money, and stop giving their enemies money.

Not everybody rabidly hates Israel. Personally, I'd be quite content to see Israel extend from the med to the Indian ocean. As long as it didn't involve the U.S. Let's get out of the way and let those crazy yids and crazy camel jockeys slaughter each other. I'll make the popcorn.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Any criticism of Israel would instantly call down the wrath of the ADL calling Ron anti-semitic. That's all that we need now.

 

[phrizek]

Not everybody rabidly hates Israel. Personally, I'd be quite content to see Israel extend from the med to the Indian ocean. As long as it didn't involve the U.S. Let's get out of the way and let those crazy yids and crazy camel jockeys slaughter each other. I'll make the popcorn.

That's a pretty disgusting statement and I don't think it is in line with Dr. Paul's philosophy of peace. Please think about the things you say.

 

[McLovin]

Ron's answer was PERFECT. There is no way it can be slanted as anti semetic which is what they were hoping for. If his mouth ever catches up with his brain he will be President.

 

[ItsTime]

He has nothing against Israel why would he speak harshly of it?

 

[Talldude1412]

What? Just because you have something against Israel doesn't mean that Ron Paul should. His answer was perfect, and it really laid out a strong basis for his non-interventionist policy. Once again, Ron Paul doesn't believe everything his supporters do, but he will speak his mind.

 

[RonPaulFTFW]

No, he was Ron Paul. Reasonable, thoughtful, and logical.

Israel isn't evil. Just like America isn't evil.

The people who make policy and attack/start wars for both countries are evil however.

His comments were perfect and he got a lot of cheers for it.

 

[SteveMartin]

His answer, as usual, was perfectly logical. It IS true that we do more harm to Israel than good. We give the Arab nations surrounding her 3 TIMES THE AIDE, which they then use (in part) to buy weapons. I think most people like the idea we should take care of our own for a change. Israel does not need our "help." She has 200-300 very sophisticated and nasty little reasons why no one in their right mind would attack them buried under the sands of the Negev.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Why should he be more harsh on Israel? He answered it just perfectly.

Ron Paul has even said himself that Israel doesn't need us militarily. They have enough firepower to turn the entire MiddleEast into a parking lot. They can handle themselves just fine in that aspect.

What's the point in backing Israel if you give their enemies 3 times more money than you give Israel and arm them with weapons they use against Israel? Why do this if you unless you are intentionally trying to cause unstability in the region? Don't you realize how hypocritical that makes us look?

This is why I wanted to jump through my TV and bitch slap Mike Fuckabee last night.

 

[SeanEdwards]

That's a pretty disgusting statement and I don't think it is in line with Dr. Paul's philosophy of peace. Please think about the things you say.

What's disgusting about it? I couldn't possibly care less if those nuts kill each other. I just don't want myself, or my country to be sucked into it.

If you want to fight over that mess, be my guest. Plenty of flights to the region every day. Choose a side and get on over there. Yeehaawww!

 

[vegetarianrpfan]

What's disgusting about it? I couldn't possibly care less if those nuts kill each other. I just don't want myself, or my country to be sucked into it.

If you want to fight over that mess, be my guest. Plenty of flights to the region every day. Choose a side and get on over there. Yeehaawww!

Well, some people have empathy for all sorts of people involved in that situation, including the many innocent people involved in a war their government starts. Calling them names as the ones you said and not caring if they kill each other are not in line with Dr. Paul's philosophies. You are certainly free to think whatever you want though!

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Libertarian Girl
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[Mopsus]

Dr. Paul answered that question regarding the US support of Israel safely, yet brilliantly.

If you doubt me, research the 1948 bombing of the British King David Hotel which killed scores of Birts. Please research the Israeli bombing and torpedoing of the US naval vessel, USS Liberty in 1967 (with weapons we sold them) b/c the Liberty was reporting Israeli attacks prior to the Six Day War (ironic HUH.) Inform yourself. Israel only cares about Israel. Who are we kidding?

Inform yourself America. Terrorists have learned that suicide and terrorist bombing attacks have been effective since they have seen the Jewish model work to drive out the biggest imperialist model of the day--the British. If it works, do it. Huh?

Let's quit funding all of these folks-- both Arab and Israeli.

 

[Carole]

You need to go back and read his statements on Israel and other countries.

What you suggest does not fit with Dr. Paul's philosophy.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Well, some people have empathy for all sorts of people involved in that situation, including the many innocent people involved in a war their government starts. Calling them names as the ones you said and not caring if they kill each other are not in line with Dr. Paul's philosophies. You are certainly free to think whatever you want though!

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Libertarian Girl
http://www.libertariangirl.com

Yeah, I used derogatory racist names for those freaks, but at least I insulted everybody! I'm an equal opportunity hater.

 

[Flash]

We should treat Isreal like anyother nation, this means we shouldn'shouldn't criticize it unjustly. Semitic people will be fighting wars with each other for a loong time.

 

[sharedvoice]

I think his response about Israel was 100% right. No more needed to be said. People get the picture.

 

[disciple]

No, he will be crucified by the Israeli Lobby.

 

[Dieseler]

Dr. Paul is already facing a vertical wall of an uphill battle in regards to Israel by saying that he would end funding Israels Zionist interest.

Israel has a death grip on our government. Through dual citizenship they have intertwined themselves throughout our Government establishment and sway our
foreign policy almost exclusively in their favor.

Israel may well be the capital of the United States behind closed doors and
Ron Paul is essentially their number one enemy and greatest fear at this time.
If he were elected that house of cards would be revealed and it would collapse from within.
There is to much truth in Dr. Paul.
Dr. Paul's safety is my greatest fear because of this.