Should Ron be doing all this running around in AZ and Michigan?

[sailingaway]

it would've been nice if they hadn't canceled the rally at asu. he would've made a great showing instead of doing the breakfast/lunch fundraising. guess i won't be seeing dr paul again like i did last campaign.

Can you make it to the debate watch party? He is stopping there after the debate. There will be bands and stuff, too.

I didn't know he even had an asu rally...

but he will be going here after the debate: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...nd-Captain-Squeegee-Play-Ron-Paul-After-Party

 

[angelatc]

Michigan Ron can win delegates..

Not if he doesn't get at least 15%. Last poll I saw had him slipping from 13% to 10%. The 3% went to Santorum.

 

[sailingaway]

Not if he doesn't get at least 15%. Last poll I saw had him slipping from 13% to 10%.

really? Last one I saw him at was 13%. Does he need 15% though? Someone else was saying it was by district. But in any event, I assume that is one of the reasons he is going there, to raise his numbers and the commitment of his supporters to turn out.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

yes he should be doing AZ because it makes the public think hes going for the gold everywhere instead of just playing by himself in another state.At this point I think public opinion may help in win all states where as the caucus states we have grassroots already securing the votes

 

[angelatc]

really? Last one I saw him at was 13%. Does he need 15% though? Someone else was saying it was by district. But in any event, I assume that is one of the reasons he is going there, to raise his numbers and the commitment of his supporters to turn out.

Don't have a link - saw it on the news yesterday. Yes, he needs 15% to get any delegates here. Then it's by district. I'm not a Santorum fan (as you may have guessed) but he's all over this state.

Excluding campaign emails, note that through the various groups I belong to here, I've been invited to 3 Santorum events, 1 Romney event, and zero Ron Paul events.

 

[joshnorris14]

really? Last one I saw him at was 13%. Does he need 15% though? Someone else was saying it was by district. But in any event, I assume that is one of the reasons he is going there, to raise his numbers and the commitment of his supporters to turn out.

28 are awarded by Congressional District. 2 are awarded proportionally by overall percentage with a 15% threshold.

 

[joshnorris14]

Don't have a link - saw it on the news yesterday. Yes, he needs 15% to get any delegates here. Then it's by district. I'm not a Santorum fan (as you may have guessed) but he's all over this state.

Excluding campaign emails, note that through the various groups I belong to here, I've been invited to 3 Santorum events, 1 Romney event, and zero Ron Paul events.

Your information is wrong. 15% is the threshold for proportional allocation NOT congressional districts.

 

[sailingaway]

Don't have a link - saw it on the news yesterday. Yes, he needs 15% to get any delegates here. Then it's by district. I'm not a Santorum fan (as you may have guessed) but he's all over this state.

Excluding campaign emails, note that through the various groups I belong to here, I've been invited to 3 Santorum events, 1 Romney event, and zero Ron Paul events.

Yeah, a post in another thread said the MSU one was sold out before it was formally announced, which makes me think our outreach to those not already on board may not be what we would hope.

 

[angelatc]

Your information is wrong. 15% is the threshold for proportional allocation NOT congressional districts.

I am a delegate. A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates.

ETA: The Green Papers backs me up on this: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/MI-R

 

[joshnorris14]

I am a delegate. A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates.

ETA: The Green Papers backs me up on this: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/MI-R

Umm no, Green Papers backs me up on this:

It seems that the Michigan Republicans will award 2 delegates to the candidate receiving the most votes in each CD and awarding the remaining delegates by the statewide vote with a 15% threshold. That would mean 28 delegates would be bound by the CD vote (2 in each of the 14 CDs) and 2 delegates would be proportionally bound according by the statewide vote with a 15% threshol

 

[angelatc]

Umm no, Green Papers backs me up on this:

It seems that the Michigan Republicans will award 2 delegates to the candidate receiving the most votes in each CD and awarding the remaining delegates by the statewide vote with a 15% threshold. That would mean 28 delegates would be bound by the CD vote (2 in each of the 14 CDs) and 2 delegates would be proportionally bound according by the statewide vote with a 15% threshol

Read farther down.

 

[joshnorris14]

Read down more.

I did, and it still backs me up:

28 district delegates are to be bound to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the state's 14 Congressional Districts. The party will use the boundaries from the 2010 census.
The presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all of that district's National Convention delegates.


2 National Convention Delegates are to be proportionally bound to presidential contenders based on the statewide vote.
A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates. From those candidates meeting this threshold, proportionally bind the national convention delegates according to the statewide vote. Round factions to the nearest whole number (below 0.5 are rounded down, 0.5 and above are rounded up). If the end result is less than 14 2 delegates, allocate 1 additional delegate to the candidate receiving the most votes statewide. If the end result is more than 14 2 delegates, subtract 1 delegate from the candidate receiving the fewest votes statewide.

 

[angelatc]

I did, and it still backs me up:

28 district delegates are to be bound to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the state's 14 Congressional Districts. The party will use the boundaries from the 2010 census.
The presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all of that district's National Convention delegates.


2 National Convention Delegates are to be proportionally bound to presidential contenders based on the statewide vote.
A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates. From those candidates meeting this threshold, proportionally bind the national convention delegates according to the statewide vote. Round factions to the nearest whole number (below 0.5 are rounded down, 0.5 and above are rounded up). If the end result is less than 14 2 delegates, allocate 1 additional delegate to the candidate receiving the most votes statewide. If the end result is more than 14 2 delegates, subtract 1 delegate from the candidate receiving the fewest votes statewide.

Well, the local GOP is telling us that the candidates have to get at least 15% to win any delegates. Seeing that the Green Papers is using terms like "it seems," I'm still going with that.

 

[joshnorris14]

It's pretty clear that the 15% threshold is for the Proportionally Allocated delegates and the Congressional District Delegates simply go to the winner. I'll take Green Papers word over any local GOP's.

 

[sailingaway]

It's pretty clear that the 15% threshold is for the Proportionally Allocated delegates and the Congressional District Delegates simply go to the winner. I'll take Green Papers word over any local GOP's.

Let's win 15% and then it won't be an issue. If the GOP is interpreting it differently, whether initially intended that way or not, you know that is how they will interpret award, unless challenged with something pretty strong to back a challenge up.