Should Rep. Giffords be replaced?

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As AZ Rep. "Gabby" Giffords continues her remarkable recover from being shot in the head by an armed whacko nihilist, her congressional seat remains empty, and the people of her district have no vote in the house.

Should she either be replaced in the interim until she's (hopefully) recovered enough to resume her duties to the people she represents, or should a special election be held to replace her in her congressional seat?
 
she can't be replaced on a temp basis; if she resigns there is a special election, and that winner finishes her term.

there is a need for an amendment so a deputy congressman could be elected in every district, who could take over on a temp basis , or need be a permanent basis.

as it is now a congressman could be in a coma for 2 years, and would never be dropped or replaced

the people of her district have no voice in this.
 
The woman has some serious literal brain damage. If she is able to still think clearly and cognitively, she could resign, but it may not even be a thought in her mind depending on how severe the damage is.

If she is "removed", it needs to be done respectfully. Allowing her time to heal should not be considered evidence of wrong doing.
 
Interesting. So if some whacko incapacitates several members of congress of a particular party to skew the balance of power in the House, then there is no "back up" plan to offset the outcome? Would correcting this require an amendment or a change in rules/law?
 
I say let her stay. Brain damage won't make her much different than the rest of Congress, infact I think she'll fit in just fine.
 
No, not unless it turns out ultimately that it would be beyond her abilities, and she has a lot of time to make that decision. Some senate seat was empty almost all of last year, and remember Kennedy being gone so long during the health care debates? You don't rush someone when they've just been shot through the brain.

And the people just voted her IN, don't you remember? I doubt her being shot has made people like her less.

She doesn't represent my politics, but she is still recovering, and I sure don't want us to be the ones calling for her to be replaced, when for all we know she may be capable of doing her duties in 8 or 10 months, either.
 
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From what I've read, she has yet to even utter 1 coherent word. There is a drastic contrast from what appears in written news, and what the tv says about her.

If TV version is true, she'll be cool in a couple months, back in the game. If written news is accurate, she will be lucky if she ever regains the ability to communicate.

Her condition doesn't seem to be honestly stated, which if she's in the worst condition, this lie is only harming her district.

However there are only two choices, as far as I see. Wait, or hold a special election. Though there are those weird monarch moments in America where an office is simply handed to a husband/wife. But I think that has something to do with the governor.
 
Could be. Remember the IL governor had the authority to redesignate Obama's senate seat when he was elected president and left it vacant. Do governors have the same power for representative's seats, and must the replacement be of the same party as the elected representative being replaced? Also, if the aforementioned is true, is the governor also granted the power to determine when a representative is physically or mentally incapacited to the point that reasonably justifies replacement?
 
As AZ Rep. "Gabby" Giffords continues her remarkable recover from being shot in the head by an armed whacko nihilist, her congressional seat remains empty, and the people of her district have no vote in the house.

Should she either be replaced in the interim until she's (hopefully) recovered enough to resume her duties to the people she represents, or should a special election be held to replace her in her congressional seat?

Yes, there is little doubt her recovery will take several months (if not years), she only has a 24 month term (23 months left). She doesn't need the stress involved with politics at this stage in her life.
 
She's my Representative. There is no rush. She should decide when she is ready. If she can't decide, then let her term run out with an empty chair. Not a big deal. The false god of democracy should not be allowed to intrude on the personal challenge of this human being and her loved ones.
 
As AZ Rep. "Gabby" Giffords continues her remarkable recover from being shot in the head by an armed whacko nihilist, her congressional seat remains empty, and the people of her district have no vote in the house.

Should she either be replaced in the interim until she's (hopefully) recovered enough to resume her duties to the people she represents, or should a special election be held to replace her in her congressional seat?

C) She is and will remain the representative. There is no mechanism for her replacement on a temporary or permanent basis. Either / or questions that limit possibilities to your agenda and ignore reality are a slime ball tactic used by politicians.

She can't talk because she has a breathing tube. Any permanent neural deficit is likely to be in motor skills with her right arm and leg. Give the woman time to heal.

-t
 
If she is still tubed, then she still cannot maintain her own airway. but I agree give her time.
 
Just a reminder why (temporary?) disability should not be a bar to office:

http://deadsenator.com/

First Dead Guy Elected to U.S. Senate

On November 7, 2000, voters in Missouri elected Mel Carnahan to the U.S. Senate. The unusual part of this is that he died in October in a plane crash.

Was this a vote of sympathy for the former state governor or was it a show of discontent for both candidates?

Current Governor Roger Wilson is expected to appoint Carnahan's widow to the Senate seat. She has said she will accept and carry out her late husband's vision.

The Republican candidate, John Ashcroft, suspended his campaign assuming he would easily win the Senate seat with no opposition. But, it appears the voters did not want him to remain in office. They showed in their vote they would rather have their state represented by a dead man than the current incumbent.

However, the Republican party is trying to overturn this decision, saying that the elected candidate is not an "inhabitant" of the state.

Although Carnahan is the first deceased candidate to win a U.S. Senate seat, there have been several deceased people elected to the U.S. House. This includes Hale Boggs and Nick Begich who were presumed dead in an airplane crash in 1972. Also, in 1962, Clement Miller narrowly beat out Don Claussen a few weeks after Miller died in a plane crash.


http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=6061

Dead Man Elected Mayor on Anti-Obama Message?

The electorate is getting desperate in the Obama recession as news of a dead man elected mayor hits our editorial desk. Meet Carl Robin Geary Sr. of Tracy, Tennessee who won the mayor’s race after passing into the afterlife on March 10th, 2010.

The very dead Geary was elected by a whopping 268-85 vote margin in the small rural town, defeating a progressive incumbent mayor named Barbara Brock who became more and more unpopular as her term progressed.

She was a typical big spending politician in the mold of Obama himself who saw her role as mayor as an opportunity to spend freely in the small town. Her idea of “beautifying” Tracy Tennessee with bloated local government spending programs prompted a visceral reaction among the town’s people.

Like many small towns around America, the residents are seeing their jobs and prospects disappear under onerous federal government programs that tax the life out of the community they knew. The last straw for them was seeing their own locally elected leader following a reckless spending scheme.

Enough is enough, they said, and installed a dead guy as their new mayor. Apparently Carl Robin Geary could do no more harm as an elected official so they took their chances with the corpse. He won with 75% of the vote.

You can read about this interesting story here and here and here.

Curious as to reader thoughts about Carl Robin Geary, the dead man elected mayor of Tracy Tennessee in the Age of Obama. What does this story say about the political climate heading into the mid-term elections?


https://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/72801

4 Dead Politicians Who Still Got Elected
by Colin Perkins - November 3, 2010 - 5:11 PM

California State Senator Jenny Oropeza easily won re-election yesterday – despite having passed away back on October 20th from complications caused by a blood clot. Although the illness left her largely absent from the campaign trail, Oropeza still managed to claim victory by a 58%-36% margin.

Oropeza’s story is rare, but certainly not unprecedented in the history of American elections. Here are a few recent examples of people who refused to let death stand in the way of electoral victory:

1. Missouri Senator Mel Carnahan

Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan famously won election to the Senate in Missouri in 2000 – 38 days after passing away in a plane crash that also claimed the lives of his son and a campaign advisor. Carnahan beat incumbent Senator John Ashcroft – who would soon move on to serve as U.S. Attorney General for President George W. Bush. Carnahan’s wife filled his spot in the Senate until a 2002 special election.

2. Tracy City Mayor Carl Geary

Earlier this year, voters in the small town of Tracy City, Tennessee, handed Carl Geary an overwhelming 285-85 victory in the city’s mayoral race – ousting incumbent Barbara Brock in the process. Geary was unable to accept, of course, because he’d passed away of a heart attack a month before the election.

To some voters, Geary’s victory seemed to be a tribute of sorts; to others, it was a lesser-of-two-evils decision. In a Telegraph story on the vote, Geary’s wife Susan is quoted as saying “The day he passed away, people were calling with condolences and saying, ‘We’re still voting for him.’”

“I knew he was deceased,” said another voter. “I know that sounds stupid, but we wanted someone other than [Brock].” Interestingly, Brock had been appointed mayor less than two years earlier, when the sitting mayor died of a heart attack.

3. Winfield Mayor Harry Stonebraker

Missouri voters were at it again in 2009 when the town of Winfield’s recently deceased incumbent mayor Harry Stonebraker won a 4th term with a staggering 90% of the vote. According to the NY Daily News, Stonebraker’s death from a heart attack only seemed to bolster the popularity he’d garnered, in part, by helping citizens recover from a flood that had ravaged the town the year before.

For his part, Stonebraker’s opponent, Bernie Panther, was completely unable to convince people that he was a better option than their dearly-departed hero – and received only 23 total votes as a result.

4. U.S. Representative Patsy Mink

Patsy Mink was a trailblazing politician who served the state of Hawaii for 12 terms in the U.S. House of Representatives. According to the National Women’s Hall of Fame, in 1964 Mink became “the first woman of color elected to the national legislature and the first Asian-American congresswoman.” After a stint serving in the President Carter’s administration and as a member of the Honolulu City Council, Mink returned to the U.S House of Representatives in 1990 – serving until she died of pneumonia weeks before election day in 2002. A few weeks after receiving a state funeral, Mink was honored once again when the voters of Hawaii re-elected her to Congress – a seat that was re-assigned a few months later after a special election.

BRAINS
MORE BRAINS!
:D

-t

ps: anyone notice a trend here, as to how often politicians die in plane crashes? Totally blows the curve as to how often citizens or even members of the military die in plane crashes.
 
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