Should President Trump open McCain Vietnam files . . . (?)

[Jan2017]

Songbird McCain :"I could not stop that you now know." at 1:45 courtesy of Coldplay (2002). . .



- and -.

"Haven't you heard (?) There is a battle of words. And most most of them are lies." at 4:17- 27 courtesy of Pink Floyd (1973)

 

[pcosmar]

I mentioned it because the LORD does choose rulers from time to time and he may keep the devil from choosing them at times when he does not interfere himself, this conversation is about who chooses the rulers in this world and the Judges were directly chosen by GOD while the tribal princes were hereditary and thus may have been chosen by GOD who determines which children are sent to which parents. (GOD also may let the devil have a hand in choosing which children are sent to ruling families but I never denied his involvement in the ruling of the world)

and this is what makes Judgement so very interesting....all the webs untangle.

we have different perspectives.. I know what has already happened,, and am just waiting to catch up.

 

[Jan2017]

#3 November 28, 1965 - McCain loss of aircraft

One problem with that Thanksgiving weekend 1965 crash . . .
(Turkey day was the 25th - McCain returning to his squadron in Meridian, MS on that Sunday the 28th)

In McCain's own words . . .

Somewhere between the Eastern Shore of Maryland and Norfolk, Virginia, as I was preparing to come in and refuel,
my engine flamed out, and I had to eject at a thousand feet. The Christmas gifts were lost with my airplane."

McCain was returning from a weekend with his parents . . . it was private use of his military aircraft.

IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF CLAIMS

​

United States Navy, Plaintiff

v.
.
John S. McCain, Defendant

__________________________________

COMPLAINT AND CAUSE OF ACTION
DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL
_______________________________​

[Lawsuiit in equity by the United States Navy for recovery of damages caused by private use leading to destruction of government property valued at $ xx million. USN seeks recovery of full damages in equity - plus interest (1965 - 2018)

 

[Jan2017]

USN : "The first responders were Repair Party 8, led by Chief Petty Officer Gerald Farrier, who can be seen in the plat tapes
running toward McCain's Skyhawk."

Before the distress call to all vessels in Yankee Station ofgf trhe coast of viet BNAM'
Team 8 went to fight a jet fuel fire on the deck at about 11:03 per thois author/investigator
led by a real hero - among the millions of relo heros - including my dad

Signalman stops the very first catapult launch - of a C-130 Hercules ready for the launch, but DOES NOT give the "go" "launch" signal and
instead does a 180 turn toward control tower he knows is trained on him per protocol - and points out with his right arm.faces control tower camnmera with arm outstretched to his right - stage left
McCain never knew the tape was rolling on his #416













McCain never starts his aircraft - EVER in this catastrophe.
McCain must not know that the lower aircraft control tower has a camera on him in his plane - it was broadcast on MSNBC circa 2007/2008

Below is a sketch of the supercarrier's aft portion f the supercarrier on 29July1967done produced by an author - with I believe one problem/caveat. He has never seen actual footage of the Zuni . . . the author assumes a straight trajectory.















By into the lie if you hadn't any chance to get to the control tower footage - and spread that narrative around the internets - at your own peril.

get to the tape before the censors . . .
top Navy brass has had it and has made two substantial changes to the current supercarriers . . .

A.

B.


USN : "The team simply disappeared in the blast. A number of air- and deck crew were trapped in the inferno; many died there,
some others were able to escape to the deck-edge catwalks."

Repair Party 8
Chief Petty Officer Farrier Hometown :
Seaman First Class : Hometown:




an "electrical anomaly" led to this per liars club


Photo of PH2 Mason, USN, 29 July 1967 off coast of Vietnam.

insert jpg USN 112 67548}

Hey kids - instead of making bullchit reports for your moron teachers based on internets lies . . .

. . . check out the Farrier School . . .

USS Forrestal's Fallen Remembered at Farrier School Ceremony

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Chief Petty Officer Gerald Farrier was the

Chief Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) Gerald W. Farrier,


Any kid in the 7th grade writing a report/essay for class on the Forrestal - as does the President of the United States depicted
in this 1997 movie . . .should yell the same five words to your "teacher" :

"Enough with this anomaly horseshit !"

 

[Jan2017]

Enough with this anomaly horseshit !

James Vincent Forrestal was the last Cabinet-level United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense.

USN : "The first responders were Repair Party 8, led by Chief Petty Officer Gerald Farrier, who can be seen in the plat tapes
running toward McCain's Skyhawk."

There was a jet fuel fire at least 20 minutes before the distress call according to the United States Navy, in the vicinity of #416 - that is a fact.

Time of a fire is listed as 11:00 - it is a local fire on the deck.

 

[Jan2017]

"enough with this anomaly horseshit"

McCain escape out of his Skyhawk is well-documented on lower control tower camera trained on his sorry arse
But - understandably - Johnny is oblivious to the fact that the lower control tower camera has been trained on him for minutes.
His account is not congruent with the aircraft carrier cameras. (fwiw,this is not amateur - cell phone type filming in 1967)

 

[juleswin]

Oh yea, he should release those paper right after he has done releasing the JKF and 911 papers. Don't hold your breathe people, he might need president for life honors, a fountain of your so he can live for 1000 more years before he can release those paper.

My future reincarnated self cannot wait for this to happen

 

[Jan2017]

Oh yea, he should release those paper right after he has done releasing the JKF and 911 papers. Don't hold your breathe people, he might need president for life honors, a fountain of your so he can live for 1000 more years before he can release those paper.

My future reincarnated self cannot wait for this to happen

Your sentiment is popular . . . note however, McCain is already busted though he doesn't need to know.

 

[Jan2017]

"enough with this anomaly horseshit"

11:0129July1967
"Fire on the deck - all flight operations cancelled aboard the Forrestal temporarily until further notice."

As it is on camera . . . should not be that hard . . . to determine timelines.

 

[Jan2017]

"enough with this anomaly horseshit"

Big problem for McCain -






he is the plane and guy on tape - on camera from the minute that the xxxxp- aircraft prop
was to be catapaulted out of the launcher . . . and got postponed.






seconfd take=offs were stopped.it is all on tape
as - the original theme about the Forrestal -
McCain's #416 was the center of attention BEFORE the dud missile went across the deck in front of McCain.

The part I never knew - raw footage is rare always - if there was an edit of chronologically.

 

[juleswin]

Your sentiment is popular . . . note however, McCain is already busted though he doesn't need to know.

Does that mean that the populist president would release the JFK papers now?

 

[Jan2017]

"enough with this anomaly horseshit"

Does that mean that the populist president would release the JFK papers now?

Honestly . . . not to be too much of an arse - really - what are JFK papers ? (honest non-sarcastic question)

 

[juleswin]

Honestly . . . not to be too much of an arse - really - what are JFK papers ? (honest non-sarcastic question)

You sarcasm? I thought were being serious.

Well, the JFK papers/files was a bunch of declassified govt documents about the investigation of the JFK assassination. They were set to be released this year but Trump who is such a exposer of the deep state and the truth teller that he is decided to extend the release to 2021. Yes, I said extend not hasten.

I have no idea what it is in it but it supposedly holds the secret to the real killers. I personally doubt it holds any secrets whatsoever but I still wanna see it.

 

[Jan2017]

You sarcasm? I thought were being serious.

Well, the JFK papers/files was a bunch of declassified govt documents about the investigation of the JFK assassination. They were set to be released this year but Trump who is such a exposer of the deep state and the truth teller that he is decided to extend the release to 2021. Yes, I said extend not hasten.

I have no idea what it is in it but it supposedly holds the secret to the real killers. I personally doubt it holds any secrets whatsoever but I still wanna see it.

extend the release to 2021.

Brownsville TX is where they got in . . . well one storyline at least.
A safe house in Dallas for a month ordering pizzas never going out outside before the hit on JFK, but I dunno.

Jack Ruby killing Oswald live on TeeVee - what fun!

 

[Jan2017]

"Herb, I thought I had killed you."




The 5-inch Zuni off of the double-seater F4B#110 was a dud . . .
anyone seeing tape can see it float erratically in front of McCain's #416 single-seater.

It is not how you imagine a missile firing in a straight and fast straight trajectory.
Also, it is discharged from the right side of #110 in History Channel video reconstruction.




McCain was in the cockpit then.

There is no fire visible in McCain's aircraft as he gets out and lies on the front nose . . . then slides off
on the #417 side. McCain's #416 has both bombs attached, though he says that both had fell to the deck. US Navy does not agree.

On video tape, in original de-briefing (above in post # x) McCain says the first thing he notices lying prone on the deck next to his plane
is a pilot on fire from jet fuel.

Rescue Team 8 responded to a fire running "toward McCain's Skyhawk"
and as jet fuel seeps down two decks below and explodes the bombs stored below the entire rescue crew perishes.

McCain 1967 version :

"I started running over towards him and I was near a group of men with a fire hose. As I was about 10 feet from him the first bomb exploded and blew me back about 15 feet. I sat up and saw a lot of bodies near me (some who had been on the hose) and I ran and jumped over the starboard cat walk [under the flight deck]."

McCain did join in with "some fine enlisted men" in carting off and dumping overboard bombs still in carts on the lower deck,
and acknowledges coming across dead crew members.

Lt. Commander Fred White of #405 also perished.

The original plane about to take-off when redirected with the arm point to the control tower upper camera was a C-130 Hercules
shown in an earlier file photo below.. It was on catapault #1.




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R.I.P.

 

[Aratus]

Yes, a ###### has no right to attack a 4-F who shows more #### for his ####### than the ######.

an edit. Gov't style. do enjoy.

 

[Swordsmyth]

an edit. Gov't style. do enjoy.

 

[Aratus]

#

an edit. again. like uncle sam's.
if you did a FOIA request, mccain's
files would look like this. all important
stuff gone. not there. just saying.
you really think DJT is honest?

 

[Swordsmyth]

an edit. again. like uncle sam's.
if you did a FOIA request, mccain's
files would look like this. all important
stuff gone. not there. just saying.

And such redactions would include many designed to shield McCain.

you really think DJT is honest?

I do not think him a living embodiment of truth but he is more honest than many others, like McCain.

 

[Aratus]

Fair enuff, Swordsmyth...