Should I vote for Ron Paul or Obama in PA?

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abe said:
Neither. Stay home and do something more productive.
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The ultimate troll line. You are a thinker, so on voting day I want you to wash your dishes.

Leave it to the brainless. I work for the NWO.
 
By the way, abe, I'm still waiting for you to provide proof of your contention that someone here provided a link to a Duke website. I think you're not only a troll, but a baldfaced liar.
 
Ok think of it like this. You are the only person in the whole world that gets to decide between Clinton and Obama. I mean it - you are the only one out of 6 billion people. And the choice is yours.

Do you:

A) Select Obama
B) Select Clinton
C) Refuse to choose because you want to make a statement. You say "let somebody else decide I like Ron Paul and he's not one of the choices

Because as Florida in 2000 taught us (and Ohio in 2004) one vote can really matter.

And before any more of you tell me to go fuck myself or that I'm an obama troll. Get real - I've worked my ass off to see Ron Paul become president. It just ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN and I have a very real situation coming up here in April!

My girlfriend is from IRAN and her family all live in Tehran. She has stood by me all along hoping so much that Ron Paul would become president so that her family does not die. Now given the reality of the situation she asks me every morning - is Clinton going to president? Is she going to bomb my family? Would obama bomb my family too? She KNOWS McCain would.

So consider the REAL WORLD SITUATION and honestly tell me what one should do.

I'm bringing this to you all because I've gotten to know many of you this past year and I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
 
A vote of principle means never throwing your vote away. So if you like Ron Paul and believe in the positions he stands for then you should vote for Ron Paul.
 
In the end the few people that have woken up to the message should continue to vote Ron Paul as it will not have a serious effect on the outcome of whether Hillary or Barrack wins. Please continue to vote for Paul so that you can convey the message to you're government that you are completely fed up with voting for the lesser of two evils. And for those who think Obama is the lesser of the two evils need only look at his global poverty bill in which it gives the U.N. complete control over a great many nations including America. Out of the so called "three remaining candidates" McCain, Clinton, and Barrack none of them will honor their oaths to office and will most definitely continue the destructive path of rule that has led us to this destination.
 
RonPaulCult said:
Ok think of it like this. You are the only person in the whole world that gets to decide between Clinton and Obama. I mean it - you are the only one out of 6 billion people. And the choice is yours.

Do you:

A) Select Obama
B) Select Clinton
C) Refuse to choose because you want to make a statement. You say "let somebody else decide I like Ron Paul and he's not one of the choices

Because as Florida in 2000 taught us (and Ohio in 2004) one vote can really matter.

And before any more of you tell me to go fuck myself or that I'm an obama troll. Get real - I've worked my ass off to see Ron Paul become president. It just ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN and I have a very real situation coming up here in April!

My girlfriend is from IRAN and her family all live in Tehran. She has stood by me all along hoping so much that Ron Paul would become president so that her family does not die. Now given the reality of the situation she asks me every morning - is Clinton going to president? Is she going to bomb my family? Would obama bomb my family too? She KNOWS McCain would.

So consider the REAL WORLD SITUATION and honestly tell me what one should do.

I'm bringing this to you all because I've gotten to know many of you this past year and I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
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You are not in that position. You're absolutely not in that position. Florida didn't come down to one vote. Don't give yourself gray hairs. Honestly. There are events beyond your control. I can guarantee you the primary won't be decided by one vote.

The odds are pretty good that we'll be seeing Obama's record soon. It won't look as good as his speeches sound. Really. Look at his voting record now. Does it deliver on the pretty speeches, or does it run completely counter to his promises?

I'm very, very glad that you're involved and taking your responsibility as a member of the most powerful committee in the world seriously. I want you to continue to do that. Thinking it could possibly all come down to you will just lead you to burn out.

I believe you should join us in trying to show the nation that voting for candidates that the media doesn't talk about can and will work if we just do it. It is an evolutionary step. It is rejecting the false choice of the "lesser of evils" and promoting something good. We can show the world that one little adjustment in attitude will change everything. This can do good not right now, but for generations to come.

I hope you will join us. But I feel sure you will vote your conscience.
 
acptulsa said:
You are not in that position. You're absolutely not in that position. Florida didn't come down to one vote. Don't give yourself gray hairs. Honestly. There are events beyond your control. I can guarantee you the primary won't be decided by one vote.

The odds are pretty good that we'll be seeing Obama's record soon. It won't look as good as his speeches sound. Really. Look at his voting record now. Does it deliver on the pretty speeches, or does it run completely counter to his promises?

I'm very, very glad that you're involved and taking your responsibility as a member of the most powerful committee in the world seriously. I want you to continue to do that. Thinking it could possibly all come down to you will just lead you to burn out.

I believe you should join us in trying to show the nation that voting for candidates that the media doesn't talk about can and will work if we just do it. It is an evolutionary step. It is rejecting the false choice of the "lesser of evils" and promoting something good. We can show the world that one little adjustment in attitude will change everything. This can do good not right now, but for generations to come.

I hope you will join us. But I feel sure you will vote your conscience.
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Thank you so much for that response. That helps very much
 
RonPaulCult said:
Ok think of it like this. You are the only person in the whole world that gets to decide between Clinton and Obama. I mean it - you are the only one out of 6 billion people. And the choice is yours.

Do you:

A) Select Obama
B) Select Clinton
C) Refuse to choose because you want to make a statement. You say "let somebody else decide I like Ron Paul and he's not one of the choices

Because as Florida in 2000 taught us (and Ohio in 2004) one vote can really matter.

And before any more of you tell me to go fuck myself or that I'm an obama troll. Get real - I've worked my ass off to see Ron Paul become president. It just ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN and I have a very real situation coming up here in April!

My girlfriend is from IRAN and her family all live in Tehran. She has stood by me all along hoping so much that Ron Paul would become president so that her family does not die. Now given the reality of the situation she asks me every morning - is Clinton going to president? Is she going to bomb my family? Would obama bomb my family too? She KNOWS McCain would.

So consider the REAL WORLD SITUATION and honestly tell me what one should do.

I'm bringing this to you all because I've gotten to know many of you this past year and I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
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No, FLorida 2000 taught us that even in very very close elections, your single vote does not determine the winner. If you could go back in time and vote for Gore in 2000 florida....he'd still lose, only this time by 546 votes, instead of 547.


So, you should always vote your prefrence and your conscence.
 
Ron Paul got over 10,000 signatures to put Dr. Paul on the ballot here in PA when he only needed 2000 signatures. In doing so Dr. Paul's name will be listed on the top of the Pa. ballot.
 
are you kidding me? Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all the same. And it doesnt matter who you vote for, its already been decided, Clinton WILL BE the next POTUS.
 
krott5333 said:
are you kidding me? Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all the same. And it doesnt matter who you vote for, its already been decided, Clinton WILL BE the next POTUS.
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Well I've been saying that for years but I like to pretend we live in a free country with fair elections.

I'm not being sarcastic. I like to pretend.
 
RonPaulCult said:
Ok think of it like this. You are the only person in the whole world that gets to decide between Clinton and Obama. I mean it - you are the only one out of 6 billion people. And the choice is yours.

Do you:

A) Select Obama
B) Select Clinton
C) Refuse to choose because you want to make a statement. You say "let somebody else decide I like Ron Paul and he's not one of the choices

Because as Florida in 2000 taught us (and Ohio in 2004) one vote can really matter.

And before any more of you tell me to go fuck myself or that I'm an obama troll. Get real - I've worked my ass off to see Ron Paul become president. It just ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN and I have a very real situation coming up here in April!

My girlfriend is from IRAN and her family all live in Tehran. She has stood by me all along hoping so much that Ron Paul would become president so that her family does not die. Now given the reality of the situation she asks me every morning - is Clinton going to president? Is she going to bomb my family? Would obama bomb my family too? She KNOWS McCain would.

So consider the REAL WORLD SITUATION and honestly tell me what one should do.

I'm bringing this to you all because I've gotten to know many of you this past year and I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
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Ummmm.....you didn't learn the lessons from Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 very well. Take a HARD look at Ohio 2004. Bush won one county by 667% of the vote. Now ask yourself this. How on EARTH is that possible? Obvious guy says it wasn't, he cheated. But did John Kerry stand up and fight this? NO! It took the third party candidates Ralph Nader and Michael Badnerik to fight. Two poll workers got CONVICTED for attempting to rig the recount. But that still didn't get the election overturned! The lesson is "if the powers that be want to steal an election, your voting for the 'lesser of two evils' isn't going to change anything".

You're girlfriend's from Iran? Cool. Does she know that Obama considers preemptive military strikes against Iran to stop a nuclear program that doesn't exist "legitimate"? How is that different from "bomb bomb Iran"?

Hey, I've played the "lesser of two evils" before and got burned. I promised myself I'd never do that again. If all I keep at the end of the day is my integrity, then fine. I'll keep it. But John McCain will not win or lose based on your one vote. He's going to get CREAMED come November by Obama/Hillary - Hillary/Obama no matter who you vote for. That's just a fact. Over 70% of Americans are STILL against the war despite the "surge" and the "surge" is falling apart. Plus Hillary has Fox news not-so-secretly in her back pocket. McCain is a sacrificial lamb and he's too stupid to know it. He thinks he's going to win promising 100 years of war? Is he freakin kidding?

Regards,

John M. Drake
 
Vote for who you would like to see become president. Why does this become a game of survivor every 4 years?
 
There is no way in hell that anyone could PAY ME OFF to vote for anyone BUT Ron Paul. I am voting my conscience for once in my life. I will not vote with the mass idiocy in this nation. I will not vote for globalism. I will not vote for any candidate that will give up our national security.
 
jmdrake said:
Ummmm.....you didn't learn the lessons from Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 very well. Take a HARD look at Ohio 2004. Bush won one county by 667% of the vote. Now ask yourself this. How on EARTH is that possible? Obvious guy says it wasn't, he cheated. But did John Kerry stand up and fight this? NO! It took the third party candidates Ralph Nader and Michael Badnerik to fight. Two poll workers got CONVICTED for attempting to rig the recount. But that still didn't get the election overturned! The lesson is "if the powers that be want to steal an election, your voting for the 'lesser of two evils' isn't going to change anything".

You're girlfriend's from Iran? Cool. Does she know that Obama considers preemptive military strikes against Iran to stop a nuclear program that doesn't exist "legitimate"? How is that different from "bomb bomb Iran"?

Hey, I've played the "lesser of two evils" before and got burned. I promised myself I'd never do that again. If all I keep at the end of the day is my integrity, then fine. I'll keep it. But John McCain will not win or lose based on your one vote. He's going to get CREAMED come November by Obama/Hillary - Hillary/Obama no matter who you vote for. That's just a fact. Over 70% of Americans are STILL against the war despite the "surge" and the "surge" is falling apart. Plus Hillary has Fox news not-so-secretly in her back pocket. McCain is a sacrificial lamb and he's too stupid to know it. He thinks he's going to win promising 100 years of war? Is he freakin kidding?

Regards,

John M. Drake
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QFT!
 
jmdrake said:
Ten years from now when this country has completely gone to hell I want to be able to look my children in the eye and say "Daddy did NOT vote for Hillary/McCain/Obama".

Regards,

John M. Drake
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Rock On John M. Drake-Dude!
 
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