Should gays be able to adopt?

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Is this a states' rights issues? Federal issue? Not up to the state? Not an issue?

I am currently living in San Francisco with a family of one gay dad who adopted 3 children. They are aged 19, 16, 15 and don't show any tendencies that make me think they were homosexual in any way.

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Is this a states' rights issues? Federal issue? Not up to the state? Not an issue?

I am currently living in San Francisco with a family of one gay dad who adopted 3 children. They are aged 19, 16, 15 and don't show any tendencies that make me think they were homosexual in any way.

Thoughts
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Not up to the state, not an issue.;)
 
"Gays" should be able to do whatever the hell they want as long as they don't agress against another individual or their property.
 
Well I could telegraph the county doctor, and he can look into his book of alchemy and numerology and consult the oracles, but i'm quite sure being adopted by a gay man won't make a kid gay. Though, I'm certainly not 100% and maybe the doc can't answer so I might take a goat to the sacrificing hill and have the witch doctor read the entrails.

Though if I'm wrong I could look into whether having a straight mother and a straight father makes you a gender neutral bisexual. Cause you know, sexuality might be determined by proximity.
 
Well I could telegraph the county doctor, and he can look into his book of alchemy and numerology and consult the oracles, but i'm quite sure being adopted by a gay man won't make a kid gay. Though, I'm certainly not 100% and maybe the doc can't answer so I might take a goat to the sacrificing hill and have the witch doctor read the entrails.

Though if I'm wrong I could look into whether having a straight mother and a straight father makes you a gender neutral bisexual. Cause you know, sexuality might be determined by proximity.

yes, but unfortunately many people think that. i was wondering what others thought about it and why.
 
Is this a states' rights issues? Federal issue? Not up to the state? Not an issue?

I am currently living in San Francisco with a family of one gay dad who adopted 3 children. They are aged 19, 16, 15 and don't show any tendencies that make me think they were homosexual in any way.

Thoughts

Who gives a shit, it's nice that people are willing to take in an orphan.
 
Is this a states' rights issues? Federal issue? Not up to the state? Not an issue?

I am currently living in San Francisco with a family of one gay dad who adopted 3 children. They are aged 19, 16, 15 and don't show any tendencies that make me think they were homosexual in any way.

Thoughts

It should be up to the parent(s) of the kid being put up for adoption, or the adoption agency. They should be able to specify whatever requirements they like..
 
It should be up to the parent(s) of the kid being put up for adoption, or the adoption agency. They should be able to specify whatever requirements they like..

This +1000.

Ideally, adoption is a private transaction. People don't like to think of it that way, because it seems to place monetary value on a human life and make babies a commodity. These same people don't have as big an objection to "fertility treatments" which design babies and implant them, and usually lead to rejection of some of the implantation attempts. Those clinics are not free. People are paying to have babies all the time.

A mother putting a baby up for adoption should be able to choose an agency she feels comfortable with. This might be, for instance, an agency that promises to place the baby in a racially-consistent home ("black" babies with "black" parents), or maybe it's religion that's important to the mother, or how about an agency that caters to active parents who will ensure the child doesn't grow up a couch potato? There would be, I am quite sure, "all comers" adoption agencies who simply accept any child and attempt to place them with any willing home. There might be mothers who don't care where their baby goes to, and those agencies would fill that void.

As far as my opinion? I don't think gay parents make gay children, but I do think that growing up around a behavior makes it seem more normal. Depending on the parents and the community in which the child is growing up, they may be in for culture shock once they leave it. This is true for all kinds of different life experiences, though; you could grow up in an "ethnic" neighborhood and then go to college in White-As-Anything, USA, and you'd be pretty confused by some of the attitudes there.

I think that having parents who are going to care for the child in question is the most important thing, and I would hope that all those agencies I mentioned as hypotheticals would have their own standards for such. Some gay parents WOULDN'T qualify to adopt a child, I am certain. Some heterosexual parents certainly don't. If your home is dangerous (again, determined by the agency), you have no means to care for the child, you have no time to care for the child, you run a meth lab in your basement (they do explode at times, and the fumes aren't exactly healthy over the lifetime of a child)... I'm going to have to think most agencies are going to deny you, regardless of any of your other traits.
 
Gay people should be able to adopt kids. Who cares what sexual preference someone is it's none of government's business at all.
 
but i'm quite sure being adopted by a gay man won't make a kid gay.
While agree with you, somewhat offtopic. On the tv show "6 feet under", there was a gay main character and they focused a lot on "gay" issues. Him and his significant other ended up adopting 2 kids. In the final show, they showed that one of the kids was gay in the future. I found this surprising, as I did not expect that a show that tried to reflect gays positively would imply that a kid adopted by gays would turn out gay......
 
While agree with you, somewhat offtopic. On the tv show "6 feet under", there was a gay main character and they focused a lot on "gay" issues. Him and his significant other ended up adopting 2 kids. In the final show, they showed that one of the kids was gay in the future. I found this surprising, as I did not expect that a show that tried to reflect gays positively would imply that a kid adopted by gays would turn out gay......

Well, a child adopted by gays won't "turn gay," but there's no guarantee they'll grow up to be straight, either. That would be just as silly a thing to claim :p
 
It's a state issue, but my personal opinion would be, can gays have a child naturally? Two men, or two woman? The answer of course is no.
 
Well, a child adopted by gays won't "turn gay," but there's no guarantee they'll grow up to be straight, either. That would be just as silly a thing to claim :p

That wasn't my point. the "grow up gay" argument is often used by people opposing gay adoption. So i would have expected a tv show that attempted to show gays in a positive manner to have the kid grow up straight. having the kid grow up and be gay only reinforces that belief. it was a tv show, they could have written it to turn out however they wanted, for some reason they wanted the final parting thought to be that a kid adopted by gays would turn out gay. The producer of the show is openly gay, one *could* extrapolate from what I said that gays want their gay adopted kids to turn out gay.
 
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Being a good or bad parent has nothing to do with sexuality. I would draw the line at pedofilia though. There are terrible parents who are straight and wonderful parents who are gay. The straight or gay was not the reason they were good or bad.

It's a state issue, but my personal opinion would be, can gays have a child naturally? Two men, or two woman? The answer of course is no.
Couples with infertility issues cannot have a child naturally. Does that mean that they should not be allowed to adopt? Perhaps it is because they cannot have a child of their own that they would like to take in somebody else's unwanted child. Would it be better to leave the kids in foster care or orphanages?
 
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