Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[Stateofmind]

Just got email from Carol Bundy..

URGENT: We need you now

WAKE UP AMERICA!
WAKE UP WE THE PEOPLE!
WAKE UP PATRIOTS!
WAKE UP MILITA!
IT'S TIME!!!!!
CLIVEN BUNDY IS HEADING TO THE HARNEY COUNTY RESOURCE CENTER (Refuge) IN BURNS OREGON.

Your presence is requested NOW.

 

[dannno]

Giving me negative reputation doesn't change my mind, or change reality. And you all know my feeling on authority, cops especially included.

I believe the majority of the people who were there and saw it, and the video. This isn't a case of the normal lying bullshit cover-up, I'm sorry... I just go with where the evidence lies. And I don't believe Sharp's account.

“He was not on his knees, none of that,” McConnell said. “He was none of that nonsense. You know, that was a miscommunication on somebody else’s part. But he went after them. He charged them. You know, LaVoy was very passionate about what he was doing up here.”

I think this write-up is accurate. You guys really live in a bubble sometimes, no offense, but you got to know when to think for yourselves... you come off like total moonbats defending stuff like this... I mean LaVoy almost ran a cop over, that alone is sometimes enough defense for lethal force.

Lavoy Forced Oregon Police to Shoot

What the hell is wrong with you?? Seriously.. You think you know what is going on here because you listened to the MSM or some retarded thing and you are making a complete fool out of yourself. You have already made several misstatements and clearly have no idea what happened, so why not try LISTENING to the people here who have actually been following this?? If you watched the video, you would see he came out with his hands up and did not CHARGE ANYBODY. He was shot, slipped on the ice, and grabbed at his side and then was murdered. He never "waved a gun around" he never "charged" the FBI, so stop making yourself look so dumb. You seriously need to humble yourself and come in trying to figure stuff out instead of telling people bullshit when you are more misinformed about than anybody else in the room. Do you have any idea how annoying and aggravating it is to deal with people who have your attitude?

Let me give you a better approach to life in these situations.. Ask questions - say, "hey, why did whats-his-name give testimony that said such-and-such because this seems to contradict what you think happened.." THEN TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN. Then respond if you have more questions. All this stuff has already been discussed and resolved.

 

[Kade]

And people like Kade and others never bothered to research both sides of the issue and ran with McConnell's fake accounting.

Kettle, pot, black, etc.

I have looked into it, heavily. I just don't agree. I honestly think that if it were a group of African Americans who pulled this stunt it would have turned into another Waco.

And calling me a troll, simply because you are angry and disagree is not very ingratiating. There is one certainty that is hard to debate on this forum, the bubble. I listened to the live audio last night of the remaining group, and I'm being nice when I say that they generally sound like a bunch of idiots. I also fear people like that, the sort of folks who see only one way, become almost tribalistic in the protection of their own, and who can be shown time and time again to lack sympathy or empathy for others besides themselves... It was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life, and that is not hyperbole.

What the hell is wrong with you?? Seriously.. You think you know what is going on here because you listened to the MSM or some retarded thing and you are making a complete fool out of yourself. .... Ask questions - say, "hey, why did whats-his-name give testimony that said such-and-such because this seems to contradict what you think happened.." THEN TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN. Then respond if you have more questions. All this stuff has already been discussed and resolved.

I listened. In the world I come from using the term MSM puts you in a category that I won't even mention here... you don't get it. Nothing is wrong with me, I just exist in a plane between two worlds of really extreme people... and it's hard, it's really freaking hard sometimes to be any sort of voice of reason...You don't listen to each other. On other forums they have destroyed the testimonies of the other witnesses, and I found myself disagreeing with their interpretation.

I'm not your enemy. I Just think that having read, watched, and listened to both sides, I don't think LaVoy was murdered... especially not after how most of you have acted and responded with the multitude of shootings of unarmed African Americans by authorities.





I can't possibly be the only person on this forum who thinks the taking of Malheur refuge was a really dumb idea.

 

[AuH20]

Kettle, pot, black, etc.

I have looked into it, heavily. I just don't agree. I honestly think that if it were a group of African Americans who pulled this stunt it would have turned into another Waco.

And calling me a troll, simply because you are angry and disagree is not very ingratiating. There is one certainty that is hard to debate on this forum, the bubble. I listened to the live audio last night of the remaining group, and I'm being nice when I say that they generally sound like a bunch of idiots. I also fear people like that, the sort of folks who see only one way, become almost tribalistic in the protection of their own, and who can be shown time and time again to lack sympathy or empathy for others besides themselves... It was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life, and that is not hyperbole.




I can't possibly be the only person on this forum who thinks the taking of Malheur refuge was a really dumb idea.

Until we get conclusive video, I can't tell either whether he reached for a 9 mm or was staggered with a previous shot. He did obviously get shot before he went to a gun. Apparently, he did have another firearm if you reference previous photos. But I have a hard time believing that he purchased a stolen firearm.

 

[Kade]

Irrespective of one's opinions or interpretations of the event, how much more likely is it to "change [others'] mind" (or "change reality") by calling others unthinking, bubble-dwelling "moonbats" than by neg-repping them? (Seems like "six of one, half a dozen of the other" to me ...)

Fair point.

 

[RJB]

I honestly think that if it were a group of African Americans who pulled this stunt it would have turned into another Waco.

. Why bring race into this? Did Waco turn out the way it did because it was a group of African Americans?

 

[Kade]

. Why bring race into this? Did Waco turn out the way it did because it was a group of African Americans?

Twisting words. I used an obvious case of a very poorly executed matter to the modern examples of African Americans and authorities. Men have been shot and killed on the street for MUCH less than what LaVoy did, and I've seen and read people on this forum support those actions. I hold that at the highest level of total and abject hypocrisy.

And you are not going to argue that if a group of Muslims or some other group stormed a Federal building armed to the teeth, and declared a "protest" that the reaction would have been nearly as mild.

 

[phill4paul]

Kettle, pot, black, etc.

I have looked into it, heavily. I just don't agree. I honestly think that if it were a group of African Americans who pulled this stunt it would have turned into another Waco.

As witnessed by your professing theat LaVoy was "waving his gun around."

And calling me a troll, simply because you are angry and disagree is not very ingratiating.

After you calling people "thick?" Kettle, pot, black etc.

I listened. In the world I come from using the term MSM puts you in a category that I won't even mention here... you don't get it. Nothing is wrong with me, I just exist in a plane between two worlds of really extreme people... and it's hard, it's really freaking hard sometimes to be any sort of voice of reason...You don't listen to each other. On other forums they have destroyed the testimonies of the other witnesses, and I found myself disagreeing with their interpretation.

What exactly does the term MSM mean in your world? In ours it means Main Stream Media. Which is all controlled by what? A handful of corporartions now. YOU obviously don't get it.

I'm not your enemy. I Just think that having read, watched, and listened to both sides, I don't think LaVoy was murdered... especially not after how most of you have acted and responded with the multitude of shootings of unarmed African Americans by authorities.

So you base your reactions to LaVoy based on what you think you saw here WRT African American shootings? You obviously don't read the WHOLE forums. There is a specific one about these shootings and the opposite of what you claim is exhibited there.

I can't possibly be the only person on this forum who thinks the taking of Malheur refuge was a really dumb idea.

Your not. But, probably for different reasons.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Your not. But, probably for different reasons.

certainly for different reasons

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'm not your enemy. I Just think that having read, watched, and listened to both sides, I don't think LaVoy was murdered... especially not after how most of you have acted and responded with the multitude of shootings of unarmed African Americans by authorities.

You appear to be confusing RonPaulForums with RedStateForums. I understand that they both begin with "R," but they really are entirely different places. Around here, at RonPaulForums, we do not justify the murder of unarmed Black Americans. Indeed, we call out the people who murder them as the murderers they are.

I can't possibly be the only person on this forum who thinks the taking of Malheur refuge was a really dumb idea.

It's becoming increasingly clear that you do not pay any attention to RPF's at all. If you had, you would have known that several of us, myself included, were opposed to this debacle from day 1. The difference is unlike you, we didn't oppose it from some misguided love of the government exercising power against people we hated, but because it was a bad idea, was not properly planned, was not supported by the locals, it would trash all the good will we built up after Bundy Ranch, and would leave us worse off than we were before wrt public opinion of the militia movement.

 

[RJB]

Good post Gunny. He wrongly accused me of twisting the words of one of his post as he comes here and twists everything that we stand for.

You appear to be confusing RonPaulForums with RedStateForums. I understand that they both begin with "R," but they really are entirely different places. Around here, at RonPaulForums, we do not justify the murder of unarmed Black Americans. Indeed, we call out the people who murder them as the murderers they are.



It's becoming increasingly clear that you do not pay any attention to RPF's at all. If you had, you would have known that several of us, myself included, were opposed to this debacle from day 1. The difference is unlike you, we didn't oppose it from some misguided love of the government exercising power against people we hated, but because it was a bad idea, was not properly planned, was not supported by the locals, it would trash all the good will we built up after Bundy Ranch, and would leave us worse off than we were before wrt public opinion of the militia movement.

 

[Weston White]

Updated listing:

Booking information:

Ammon Bundy
Ryan Bundy
Pete Santilli
Brian Cavalier
Shawna Cox RELEASED--Record no longer available.
Ryan Payne
Joseph Oshaughnessy RELEASED
Duane Ehmer RELEASED
Dylan Anderson
Jason Patrick
Ritzheimer (need DOB or booking no.)

David Fry
Jeff Banta
Sean Anderson
Sandra Anderson

Wesley Kjar

Geoffrey Stanek RELEASED
Daryl Thornl



Cannot locate anything for Victoria Sharp in Auburn, KS at https://kdocrepository.doc.ks.gov/kasper/

Only match on a Jay booked on 2/10:

PICKERING , JAYCE LEE Return
Age: 32
Total Bond: $0.00
Total Cash-Only: $6,280.00
Booked: 02/10/16 00:49
Court Date: 4/7/16 10:00
Earliest Release:
Charges Bond Cash Both?
207.200:
TRESPASS, NOT AMOUNTING TO BURGLARY $0.00 $1,140.00 No
211A.125:
ARREST MISD PROBATIONER FOR PROBATION VIOL $0.00 $5,140.00 No

"Jay"

Name # Name Location Time Incarcerated
545268 COOPER, BLAINE PURG-WEST-FBLK-MAIN-0019 11:09:53 02/11/16

https://news.washeriff.net/divisions/corrections-division/inmate-information/current-inmate-roster/

Blaine Cooper

DWIGHT LINCOLN HAMMOND
Register Number: 59886-065
Age: 74
Race: White
Sex: Male
Located at: Terminal Island FCI
Release Date: 02/13/2020

STEVEN DWIGHT HAMMOND
Register Number: 60061-065
Age: 46
Race: White
Sex: Male
Located at: Terminal Island FCI
Release Date: 06/29/2019

FBP link

 

[Weston White]

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[PursuePeace]

Have you all seen this? I'm watching it now.
It was just posted on the Bundy Ranch facebook page:

Bundy Ranch shared Dennis Michael Lynch's photo.
1 hr ·
Live right now!!! Share share share
https://www.facebook.com/DMLdaily/posts/1116230278416428:0



Dennis Michael Lynch
3 hrs ·
TONIGHT: 'A DAY AT BUNDY'S'

My film about the happenings that took place in Nevada 2014 premieres on NewsmaxTV tonight at 9pm ET. Repeats at midnight ET. See what REALLY happened that day. Go to NewsmaxTV.com for channel listings or to watch online in real time.

Type in "Bundy" in the search bar:
[video]http://www.newsmaxtv.com/tvsearch[/video]

On a sidenote:

Ammon Bundy Moved Out of Solitary – Thanks to Newsmax TV Host


Sorry if this has already been posted, kind of hard keeping up with all the threads these days.

 

[JK/SEA]

some news from Okanogan County..

http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/...sioner-calls-ranchers-death-an-assassination/

 

[Weston White]

* Dylan Wade Anderson, 34, of Provo, Utah, arrested leaving the refuge Jan. 27
* Sandra Lynn Anderson, 48, of Riggins, Idaho, surrendered at the refuge Feb. 11
* Sean Larry Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho, surrendered at the refuge Feb. 11
* Jeff Wayne Banta, 46, of Yerington, Nevada, surrendered at the refuge Feb. 11
* Jason Charles Blomgren, 41, of Murphy, North Carolina, arrested in Bunkerville, Nevada, on Feb. 10
* Ammon Edward Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho, arrested at a roadblock on U.S. 395 on Jan. 26
* Ryan C. Bundy, 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada, arrested at a roadblock on U.S. 395 on Jan. 26
* Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada, arrested at a roadblock on U.S. 395 on Jan. 26
* Blaine Cooper, 36, of Dewey-Humboldt, Arizona, arrested in Springdale, Utah, on Feb. 11
* Shawna Cox, 59, Kanab, Utah, arrested at a roadblock on U.S. 395 on Jan. 26
* Duane Leo Ehmer, 45, of Irrigon, Oregon, arrested leaving the refuge Jan. 27
* David Lee Fry, 27, of Blanchester, Ohio, surrendered at the refuge Feb. 11
* Eric Lee Flores, 22, of Tulalip, Washington, arrested in Tulalip, Washington, on Feb. 11
* Wesley Kjar, 32, of Manti, Utah, arrested in Weber County, Utah, on Feb. 11
* Corey Lequieu, 44, of Fallon, Nevada, arrested in Nevada on Feb. 11
* Kenneth Medenbach, 62, of Crescent, Oregon, arrested in Burns on Jan. 15
* Joseph Donald O'Shaughnessy, 45, of Cottonwood, Arizona, arrested in Burns on Jan. 26
* Jason S. Patrick, 43, of Bonaire, Georgia, arrested leaving the refuge Jan. 27
* Ryan Waylen Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana, arrested at a roadblock on U.S. 395 on Jan. 26
* Jon Eric Ritzheimer, 32, Peoria, Arizona, surrendered in Peoria on Jan. 26
* Peter Santilli, 50, of Cincinnati, Ohio, arrested in Burns on Jan. 26
* Darryl William Thorn, 31, of Marysville, Washington, arrested in Bend on Feb. 11
* Neil Wampler, 68, of Los Osos, California, arrested in Los Osos on Feb. 11
* Geoffrey Stanek, 26, of Lafayette, Oregon, arrested in Forest Grove on Feb. 11
* Travis Cox of Oregon, not in custody

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/where_are_they_from_an_at-a-gl.html

 

[JK/SEA]

 

[Weston White]

Would it be a good idea to make a public call for the officers/agents involved to come forward in a whistleblower capacity, that he and Fiore and others will work with them to get the truth out and protect them from official blowback?

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Mr John Moore better be watching his back. Political types are NEVER supposed to say any bad thing about ANY goon at ANY time. He's definitely got balls...

 

[phill4paul]

jeebus, the curious words of the MSM.

Headline:

FBI finds trench of human feces at cultural site on Oregon refuge

So basically saying the occupants shit all over the cultural heritage of the Paiutes.

But wait....

The FBI said it has found a trench of human feces and a road excavated on or next to a sensitive cultural site with artifacts

investigators found "significant amounts of human feces" in a trench at an outdoor camping area that was either on or next to a "sensitive cultural site."

Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts," he wrote.

Of course one might wonder why a campsite would be build adjacent to or on a native American cultural site.

ETA link:http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-finds-trench-human-feces-cultural-oregon-refuge-035649348.html